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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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OK GUYS BAD NEWS AND IM PISSED OFF! I CALLED UP BULLYDOG AGAIN TO SEE HOW THEIR PROGRESS WAS WITH THE NEW UPDATING OF THE BD FOR OUR 09 MAXIMAS. THE GUY HAD NO IDEA WAS I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND HE DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A WOT REMOVER. I TOLD HIM THAT I SPOKEN TO TECH SUPPORT ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND WAS PROMISED A WOT REMOVER ETC UPDATE. HE SAID HE DIDNT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT BD DOING THIS AND NO PLANS FOR IT EITHER. NOW CMON THIS IS GETTING TO BE RIDUCLOUS!
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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OK GUYS BAD NEWS AND IM PISSED OFF! I CALLED UP BULLYDOG AGAIN TO SEE HOW THEIR PROGRESS WAS WITH THE NEW UPDATING OF THE BD FOR OUR 09 MAXIMAS. THE GUY HAD NO IDEA WAS I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND HE DIDNT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A WOT REMOVER. I TOLD HIM THAT I SPOKEN TO TECH SUPPORT ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND WAS PROMISED A WOT REMOVER ETC UPDATE. HE SAID HE DIDNT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT BD DOING THIS AND NO PLANS FOR IT EITHER. NOW CMON THIS IS GETTING TO BE RIDUCLOUS!
Is it possible that it could've been a case of one Tech not talking to another Tech or maybe he just didn't know nothing about it at all??

Do they have a Lead Technician at BD who spearheads all the programming and decisions on what to go forward on or what not to?

We need to get to the heart of this because at this point I'm almost ready to ask the Moderators to Sticky a Boycott of BD Products onto all the Maxima.org Forums.

???
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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That are sell my max, thats how bad I want the WOT gone!!!
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Is it possible that it could've been a case of one Tech not talking to another Tech or maybe he just didn't know nothing about it at all??

Do they have a Lead Technician at BD who spearheads all the programming and decisions on what to go forward on or what not to?

We need to get to the heart of this because at this point I'm almost ready to ask the Moderators to Sticky a Boycott of BD Products onto all the Maxima.org Forums.

???
Keep in mind that this guy could honestly have no clue...

It's easier to say "No I haven't heard anything" than to be in the know. More than two people working there have confirmed the WOT removal update so I'd say this guy's just out of the loop.

They have a couple more weeks anyway. Sit tight.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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R u serious. This company is really pissing me off. I was this close to buying the product a couple of months ago untill i heard that the WOT issue was not resolved. I've been waiting all this time as this is my biggest issue with this car is the fact that its launch is so poorly. Do these retards not realize how much more business they would be getting. Some people really don't realize how important these forums r for there business. I'm sure its something so simple for them to do as an update and yet they don't do it. If they were able to do it with other vehicles like the Titan then whats the issue here. I say we start calling and emailing these DoDo heads and see if they get with the program. Let them realize how important this is. I seriously would love to have this car running @ 100% plus with the Stillen intake, and the Greddy exhaust coming out soon, BD would be the perfect combination. I could easily see this max @ 310hp-320hp with the right components.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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R u serious. This company is really pissing me off. I was this close to buying the product a couple of months ago untill i heard that the WOT issue was not resolved. I've been waiting all this time as this is my biggest issue with this car is the fact that its launch is so poorly. Do these retards not realize how much more business they would be getting. Some people really don't realize how important these forums r for there business. I'm sure its something so simple for them to do as an update and yet they don't do it. If they were able to do it with other vehicles like the Titan then whats the issue here. I say we start calling and emailing these DoDo heads and see if they get with the program. Let them realize how important this is. I seriously would love to have this car running @ 100% plus with the Stillen intake, and the Greddy exhaust coming out soon, BD would be the perfect combination. I could easily see this max @ 310hp-320hp with the right components.

Yeah, I with you on the phone call thingy but we should all call and be courteous but direct and let them know what's going on here on 7TH Gen Forums will soon spread to the other forums as well as other websites too.

I'm getting ready to call them in a few minutes.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Yeah, I with you on the phone call thingy but we should all call and be courteous but direct and let them know what's going on here on 7TH Gen Forums will soon spread to the other forums as well as other websites too.

I'm getting ready to call them in a few minutes.
I'm doing the same. Strength in numbers guys, let's do it!
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Someone Post the ph: nbr and email please. I'm on the Iphone right now.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Someone Post the ph: nbr and email please. I'm on the Iphone right now.
866-285-5936 from M-F 8am to 5pm MST for technical support.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Ok Fellaz,
Just got off the phone with Tim (he's a Tech) and here's the updated info that I have:

Right now there's only one Engineer (Lance) that is working on our update but there are numerous problems because of Nissan-not BD.

Problem One: our Maximas though the same in year, make, model, engine, CVT ect. etc, all have different Calibrations. These Calibrations have to be worked on individually, even though at times you'll get a car with the same Calibrations you may have issues which leads you to>>>

Problem Two: though the Calibrations may be the same different driving habits may influence how the programming reacts to said drivers.

Solutions: Tim asked me to send him my Calibration for my car (I'll do it tonight) and what he's going to get Lance to do is to make a programming for my car to include the WOT Restricter Remover 0-40 and make a Beta Version that I can upload into my car based on my Calibration settings.

So in essence i have volunteered Zhuzy (my Car) to be the Guinea Pig for all of the rest of you guy's (and mine) cars.

I'll update you all as things progress but please hold off on the calls and contact to them for now.

Thanks
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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bk2k3max you are the bomb. Keep us updated and thanx for being the guinea pig, i would of done the same if I had to. Glad to see one of the max.org members coming through for all of us. I had just emailed them like a 3 paragraph page of stuff about my interest and what not, I didn't say anything negative. Hope it all works out.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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im so confused right now, I guess the techs at bd dont communicate with eachother. Im glad to hear tho bk2k3max got an answer we all love to hear, I just hope it doesnt take any longer
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Does anybody have any info on how the Bullydog effects Warranty on our Max? I can't seem to find any....
I think this question might have been lost being that it was the last post on previous page. Can anybody help me with with this?
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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I think this question might have been lost being that it was the last post on previous page. Can anybody help me with with this?
it probably will effect the warrenty.... but like i do with my charger i put it back to the stock tune everytime i bring it in for service, so the dealer cant blame anything on the tuner
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Thanks for the support, patience and understanding on this guys-and you know that I'll keep you all updated as things progress OR NOT!! LOL

TO: Mreim

Here's some info that may help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

I believe that this is the Act that speaks of how the Dealership has to prove that the Mods we added caused the problem in order for them to not honor our Warranty.

But let us know what you get out of it because I didn't read the whole thing.

Thanks
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Thanks for the support, patience and understanding on this guys-and you know that I'll keep you all updated as things progress OR NOT!! LOL

TO: Mreim

Here's some info that may help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

I believe that this is the Act that speaks of how the Dealership has to prove that the Mods we added caused the problem in order for them to not honor our Warranty.

But let us know what you get out of it because I didn't read the whole thing.

Thanks
Thanks for the link. I can see what they are getting at with the dealership having to prove it was the mods fault. I can also see where it could go horribly wrong for the consumer being put into the "he said, she said" predicament with lawsuits and such. Is everyone here that chooses to install the Bully Dog ok with that? Or does everyone just remove it prior to dealership inspection? I ask because this is the first I have ventured into warranty territory and would just like all the facts before I do anything rash, hope everyone doesn't mind.
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Ok Fellaz,
Just got off the phone with Tim (he's a Tech) and here's the updated info that I have:

Right now there's only one Engineer (Lance) that is working on our update but there are numerous problems because of Nissan-not BD.

Problem One: our Maximas though the same in year, make, model, engine, CVT ect. etc, all have different Calibrations. These Calibrations have to be worked on individually, even though at times you'll get a car with the same Calibrations you may have issues which leads you to>>>

Problem Two: though the Calibrations may be the same different driving habits may influence how the programming reacts to said drivers.

Solutions: Tim asked me to send him my Calibration for my car (I'll do it tonight) and what he's going to get Lance to do is to make a programming for my car to include the WOT Restricter Remover 0-40 and make a Beta Version that I can upload into my car based on my Calibration settings.

So in essence i have volunteered Zhuzy (my Car) to be the Guinea Pig for all of the rest of you guy's (and mine) cars.

I'll update you all as things progress but please hold off on the calls and contact to them for now.

Thanks
bk2k3max for President!
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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bk2k3max for President!
HE GOT MY VOTE!
Old Jul 23, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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bk2k3max for President!


What will my name be? O'BK?
Old Jul 24, 2009 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Ok Fellaz,
Just got off the phone with Tim (he's a Tech) and here's the updated info that I have:

Right now there's only one Engineer (Lance) that is working on our update but there are numerous problems because of Nissan-not BD.

Problem One: our Maximas though the same in year, make, model, engine, CVT ect. etc, all have different Calibrations. These Calibrations have to be worked on individually, even though at times you'll get a car with the same Calibrations you may have issues which leads you to>>>

Problem Two: though the Calibrations may be the same different driving habits may influence how the programming reacts to said drivers.

Solutions: Tim asked me to send him my Calibration for my car (I'll do it tonight) and what he's going to get Lance to do is to make a programming for my car to include the WOT Restricter Remover 0-40 and make a Beta Version that I can upload into my car based on my Calibration settings.

So in essence i have volunteered Zhuzy (my Car) to be the Guinea Pig for all of the rest of you guy's (and mine) cars.

I'll update you all as things progress but please hold off on the calls and contact to them for now.

Thanks
I figured this was an issue trying to reverse engineer how Nissan does this. Still this might never come I was speaking with Stillen about the possibility of tricking the ECU to lock the CVT into 3rd gear (ratio 1.11) for dyno runs and he had a good laugh... Unless someone can get the source code from Nissan this is a royal b*$# if not impossible....
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 01:06 AM
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Sorry if this has been answered, can you remove the speed limiter with the current BD?
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Sorry if this has been answered, can you remove the speed limiter with the current BD?
Yes, you can! My Speed Limit is now 171 mph at the top end.

Update: I'm having problems getting my Calibration from the BD unit, if anyone can get me theirs then I'd be more than happy to forward your Calibration code to BD to use in their Beta version.

I sent Tim an email but that was over the weekend at his work place and I'm sure that he hasn't looked at it yet but I requested his assistance with getting the Cal Code but his instructions didn't net me the information I needed.

Hopefully he'll respond tomorrow but if not I will call him/BD techs and get them to walk me through the steps.

More updates to come later.

Thanks for your patience.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Yes, you can! My Speed Limit is now 171 mph at the top end.

Update: I'm having problems getting my Calibration from the BD unit, if anyone can get me theirs then I'd be more than happy to forward your Calibration code to BD to use in their Beta version.

I sent Tim an email but that was over the weekend at his work place and I'm sure that he hasn't looked at it yet but I requested his assistance with getting the Cal Code but his instructions didn't net me the information I needed.

Hopefully he'll respond tomorrow but if not I will call him/BD techs and get them to walk me through the steps.

More updates to come later.

Thanks for your patience.
im assuming you can only get the cal code only if you only have the bd tuner right?
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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im assuming you can only get the cal code only if you only have the bd tuner right?
Yes, that is true.
Old Jul 26, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Is there anyone else with the bd tuner than can help bk2k3max out?
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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I am getting one in tomorrow and will install after lunch. Will be glad to help out once I get it in!!
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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I am getting one in tomorrow and will install after lunch. Will be glad to help out once I get it in!!
great lets us know your feedback after installing the bd!
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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I posted this question earlier, but figured I would get a better response here:
I will be installing the Bully Dog Programmer tomorrow, what would be a conservative setting for the RPM's. I am looking for performance but do not want to put a heavy load on the engine every time I put my foot into it. This is my daily driver and I need it to last . I will be removing the speed limiter, selecting the performance setting and adjusting the RPM's if needed. Are should I just leave the RPM setting to stock?
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 03:54 AM
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Ok, after a little more reading, I believe I will settle in and adjust it to 6500rpms.
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Ok, after a little more reading, I believe I will settle in and adjust it to 6500rpms.
6,500 RPMS is ideal. However, you can adjust it all you want... It will have no effect on your car's RPM range.

They're resolving this with an update as well.
Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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6,500 RPMS is ideal. However, you can adjust it all you want... It will have no effect on your car's RPM range.

They're resolving this with an update as well.
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It will have no effect on your car's RPM range
It's funny though you mentioned this because when I spoke to the Tech (Tim) he asked me if I had heard a click when accelerating at high/higher speed and I told him I did.

Tim stated that the car would make like a little clicking noise then the pedal would all of a sudden release as though you can push it further to the floor.

The funny thing is that I did notice it before he even mentioned it, so yes mine does work, I even noticed the RPMS swing to 7100 at the moment of the click and felt my pedal go to the floor.

Tim emailed me today with some slightly different instructions on how to get my Calibration Code but I haven't tried it yet (damn, work sucks) LOL!
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
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It's funny though you mentioned this because when I spoke to the Tech (Tim) he asked me if I had heard a click when accelerating at high/higher speed and I told him I did.

Tim stated that the car would make like a little clicking noise then the pedal would all of a sudden release as though you can push it further to the floor.

The funny thing is that I did notice it before he even mentioned it, so yes mine does work, I even noticed the RPMS swing to 7100 at the moment of the click and felt my pedal go to the floor.

Tim emailed me today with some slightly different instructions on how to get my Calibration Code but I haven't tried it yet (damn, work sucks) LOL!
Are you talking about the click when you press the gas pedal all the way down?
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Installed it today (this afternoon) but did not have time to hit the hwy with it. Question, After my settings (remove speed limiter, adjust rmps and premium settings) I went to settings to review my selections after the install. I noticed that it is set
"-2 degrees". Is this normal? I did not touch this setting while setting up.
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Are you talking about the click when you press the gas pedal all the way down?
There's an additional click after 6200 RPMS and then you'll feel the pedal depress a little further as the Tach climbs to 7100.


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"-2 degrees". Is this normal?
I guess so because it was the same for me when I checked my settings.
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
There's an additional click after 6200 RPMS and then you'll feel the pedal depress a little further as the Tach climbs to 7100..
Yea i know theres an additional click , but mine doesnt reach 7100 rpm, i guess its because i dont have the bd installed

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Drove to work this morning and gave it a quick test. It is set in the Premium mode. This is "my opinion" only!
*Driving around town, feels no difference
*From a dead stop, feels no different
*Even though I set the rpms higher, it does not go above 6200rpms
*On hwy speeds, it pulls a little harder in Ds mode when you put your foot in it.
*Will test the speed limiter later today
*"Did not" adjust the timing or the idle.
Considering my other mods may be the reason I do not feel a "Big" difference.

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6,500 RPMS is ideal. However, you can adjust it all you want... It will have no effect on your car's RPM range.

They're resolving this with an update as well.
Why is 6500 ideal? Does anyone have a HP/Torque dyno chart for this engine? Without that were all pissing in the wind in darkness...
Old Jul 29, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Yea i know theres an additional click , but mine does reach 7100 rpm, i guess its because i dont have the bd installed
Why are you sad? You said you don't have the Bullydog installed and you're still reaching 7100? How is that possible? If your car can reach 7100 without BD then IMO you probably don't need the BD.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but please explain. Thanks

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Drove to work this morning and gave it a quick test. It is set in the Premium mode. This is "my opinion" only!
*Driving around town, feels no difference
*From a dead stop, feels no different
*Even though I set the rpms higher, it does not go above 6200rpms
*On hwy speeds, it pulls a little harder in Ds mode when you put your foot in it.
*Will test the speed limiter later today
*"Did not" adjust the timing or the idle.
Considering my other mods may be the reason I do not feel a "Big" difference.
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Our ECUs usually take some time for it to adjust to the changes you made, give it another 24-48 hours and then take your car to a place where you can stretch its' legs out (so to say) and then give us your driving impressions.

I really think the benefits of the BD aren't seen until the car reaches its' regular settings; in other words:

If your car redlines at 6500 then you have to get at a speed high enough to see it go past that, it shouldn't have to be that way but for me mine works as soon as I put my pedal to the metal (which is what it's supposed to do).

I didn't get to see my tach climb past 7100 until I was on the highway at higher speeds but now I see it swing up to 7100 whenever I put my foot all the way in it.

You will not feel a difference until you adjust your Idle and advance your Timing on the low end but trust me, once you do adjust both you'll not only feel the difference-you'll hear it as well.

Try going from a dead stop in D mode with your regular settings and then program it with the BD with the Timing Advanced and the Idle raised, I bet you'll know the difference right away.

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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bk2k3max
Why are you sad? You said you don't have the Bullydog installed and you're still reaching 7100? How is that possible? If your car can reach 7100 without BD then IMO you probably don't need the BD.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but please explain. Thanks

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Drove to work this morning and gave it a quick test. It is set in the Premium mode. This is "my opinion" only!
*Driving around town, feels no difference
*From a dead stop, feels no different
*Even though I set the rpms higher, it does not go above 6200rpms
*On hwy speeds, it pulls a little harder in Ds mode when you put your foot in it.
*Will test the speed limiter later today
*"Did not" adjust the timing or the idle.
Considering my other mods may be the reason I do not feel a "Big" difference.
To: Swatcop
Our ECUs usually take some time for it to adjust to the changes you made, give it another 24-48 hours and then take your car to a place where you can stretch its' legs out (so to say) and then give us your driving impressions.

I really think the benefits of the BD aren't seen until the car reaches its' regular settings; in other words:

If your car redlines at 6500 then you have to get at a speed high enough to see it go past that, it shouldn't have to be that way but for me mine works as soon as I put my pedal to the metal (which is what it's supposed to do).

I didn't get to see my tach climb past 7100 until I was on the highway at higher speeds but now I see it swing up to 7100 whenever I put my foot all the way in it.

You will not feel a difference until you adjust your Idle and advance your Timing on the low end but trust me, once you do adjust both you'll not only feel the difference-you'll hear it as well.

Try going from a dead stop in D mode with your regular settings and then program it with the BD with the Timing Advanced and the Idle raised, I bet you'll know the difference right away.

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opps i meant DOESNT.....Sorry for the mix up
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Why is 6500 ideal? Does anyone have a HP/Torque dyno chart for this engine? Without that were all pissing in the wind in darkness...
Yes, these motor make peak power @ 6,400 RPM stock. 6,500 is ideal.



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