Nope, the guys at my shop are pretty good guys....The tech thought it was "fun" to try and he owns a '03 Maxima and said he was going to try it on his. It has a noticeable improvement right from the pedal mash! I could see the consult working, the tech let me stand next to him while he was doing it. I saw the advance go in, the rpm range change and could hear the throttle reposition. This worked huge in my Titan, all over the titan forums, I had a superchips cortex tuner in my titan (no BD) which removed the WOT restriction. The consult 3 cant do that though...... If your techs will do it, its worth it cause you can always just reset it to stock if you want. I live outside Chicago if your near...

 

Nice thanks for the info. I am def gonna try to do this. My shop seems pretty good with stuff, they've hooked me up in the past, tho nothing like this. Is there any downside to doing this?

I'm in eastern CT... Thanks tho.

 

wow thats awesome , i really doubt my dealer would do that for me, next time i go in for an oil change it wouldnt hurt to ask tho. I know there gonna ask why do i want that done, what do i tell them?

 

Went to the dealership today and asked if they could advance my timing. The service manager said he highly recommended against it. The two reasons were that:
1) If adjusted by using CONSULT, the engine/computer will readjust the timing to the stock setting after 150-200 miles - so it wouldn't last very long. Apparently the ability to change these settings on the CONSULT are for testing purposes and not meant to last.
2) There is a good possibility that very bad things could happen to the engine after an extended period of time.
He said the only way to keep the settings locked in is with a chip or programmer (like BD) but he again advised against it due to a high risk of engine damage.

Just wanted to let you guys know what this specific service manager said about the situation. Anyone have different experiences?

 

Really?? Get 100k extended warranty on drivetrain and screw them. It is about time.

 

Great Job ANNINO you just saved me the headache of going to the dealer to get it done. BD it is.

 

Haha no problem. The service manager I usually deal with apparently doesn't work there anymore. This was a new guy I've never met. When I asked about the WOT governor he said, quote "it's there to protect the CVT, if you remove it you will tear it to shreds". I'm sure some of you have dealerships around that will work with you, but the majority of us will encounter these people who believe that any modification other than stock will cause the car to burst at the seams.

 

yea man thanks many , you just saved me from a huge speech from the service manager loll

 

hmmm thats interesting, but i cant see how much more powerful this car would be w.o the wot governor that itll tear up the cvt. Well probably gain about .2 or .3 tenths of a sec the most from 0-40. I really cant see a .2/.3 of a sec tearing up the cvt.

 

Don't believe everything you hear from those ppl, they'd say anything to scare you.

 

I Guess time will tell. Lets see whos the 1st one to find out if the cvt can handle. Intake, exhaust system, lighter UDP, 93 octane, BD w/WOT & sum good old torque braking, revving it up to 1200 rpms and launching. If it can handle all that, then we got ourselves a winner of a Maxima.

 

Really? An Infinity G35 gets a 0.5s better 0-60 time though they have comparable HP/torque...

 

Ok guys,

I got my triple dog gt

first problems i have had
both my PCs will not connect to unit
which suck cause they claim you need to
update before install..

So i hooked it up to the car to check version
looks like my version is current.

ok so now i install the premuim map
and lifted the speed limiter
left revs alone

car was too hot to mess wit timing
ok
car started up i was scared at first hearing all this people saying windows and what not working etc

car started up

on the first ride
noticed nothing at all from 0-35
car felt the same as stock
now 35-60 pretty much the same
60+ she kicks in you feel more peaky

one thing i did notice was the tps only opens to 85 % wheres my other 15% ??

so far not entirely very happy with this unit will call Bully dog tomm get the scoop.

I got mine on sale @ summit racing 411.00 shipped

i will try again @ hwy speeds

I am also willing to flash some one else car nearby see if they come up with anything ??

my max only has 4500 miles break in i doubt but who knows

 

If you went WOT from every stop, light, curve, etc. Yea it would probably thrash the tranny pretty quick, maybe 25k miles? I don't drive like that, I don't have to really punch it hard in normal driving. It would be nice to be able to hit 60 in only 4.9, when ever I want though.

 

I've seen some chart of throttle position vs. pedal angle for the max and remember that it didn't go all the way up to 100%. Seem to remember it was higher than 80% though. See what BullyDog support says. Also, you could try putting it back to stock and see if it still maxes at 80%.

 

I was not happy until I advanced the timing 2 degrees. That what made all the difference in the BD for me!!

 

Ya I agree, a faster 0-60 time would be nice. I can't see how removing the WOT limiter would be that bad, unless the CVT can't handle instant torque and it needs to be 'ramped'. I think we really need to find out how much HP/Torque this CVT is capable of safely handling day in and day out. I don't know how to go about getting that info tho.

 

I hope that is the case. I would hate for any of this info to be true. If it is, the car is a bit too fragile for my liking...

 

try adavancing the timing, many people have had positive feedback with that. I think you will be happy if you do so

 

i am going to try advancing the timing
see what happens

still concerened about the tps
and also no being able to connect to pcs

 

i could be wrong but maybe the throttle opens up only 85 percent because of that wot limiter.

 

I'm advancing my timing as soon as I get home. Haha!

 

Make sure yall report back and let us know how it feels after advancing 2 degrees! Take note on how much faster it shifts!!

 

I agree with Swatcop, the car feels much more lively from a deadstop when you Advance the Timing and adjust the idle but be sure to use the "D" Mode otherwise the car will bog in "DS" Mode.

Once you're on the roll betwen 40-60mph then mash the accelerator and watch her fly harder and faster. On the other hand though, if our Maxima ECUs are the same as previous Gens in that they take a while before learning the new programming it is very possible that you won't feel the difference until 24 hours or more.

Let us know Buddy, we'll be waiting.

 

so in other words DS mode is no good and will bog after you do the 2 degree timing....im alittle confused ?

 

Well, D Mode is the best mode for launching from a dead stop and this goes for our cars whether you use the BD or in stock settings due to the WOT Restriction. What I'm saying is that DS Mode is good but it is better when you're already on the roll and for launching from a standstill it is best to use D (both apply whether you have a BD or not).

After you do the Timing Advance and the Idle you immediately notice how the car behaves from a launch and once you're on the highway between 40-120 and beyond.

 

so what your saying is you raised your idle ?
also whats the advantage besides increased fuel consumption and noise ?

 

ahhh ok ok i got it, i thought when you said "bogs" i thought you meant the car literally dies out with the timing advance lol......stupid me

 

If your car idles at 1200 and you lift your foot off the brake and let the car just coast up to its' natural speed at that idle then maybe your car will cruise at 10-15mph, if you tune your idle to 2200 or so then soon as you lift your foot off the brake the car will reach a higher speed faster.

Have you ever driven a Corvette? Well, if you have then you'll know that those cars are idled very highly and soon as you take your foot off the brake that thing is ready to rip and will probably cruise around town without you applying the gas to a speed between or around 30mph.

I think by now you can see the benefits, but you are right, it does sip a little bit more gas and it is a little louder.

 

so with the bd what does the car idle at now?

 

Just ordered my triple dog gt, will have it by next week. Will keep you guys updated when i get it.

 

I have a question, I have the power pup from BD I currently have the current update, before I do any changes, I know alot of you said +2 on the timing I want to know about the idle, what is the ideal one tp have to be safe?

I'm new to this programmer stuff
Any info would be appreciated

 

I was told that Nissan sets the timing low and the consult 3 will allow the 2 degree to go in because it is still within spec. I am no expert, but I was told by the tech that it is safe to do....It causes the spark to fire a little bit sooner, just before the piston is top dead center (TDC) which causes more compression. Anyway, thats how it was explained to me, so no flames please.......

 

I left my idle at stock setting. Adjust the idle higher does nothing for HP. Mine is running very smooth with my settings.

 

The advance stayed in my Titan for 2 years, the only thing that could set it back to stock was if you disconnected the battery, and even then most would stay. I used the consult 2 with my Titan, but they checked a couple of times and the consult showed the advance was still in there, after 10,000 miles

 

Good to know. You didn't run into any problems or anything in that time either? I'm glad he was just trying to scare me - the crap he was saying made the car sound so fragile. His demeanor was "I'm joe schmo and I know everything". He said the best way to get more HP is to find a place that sells 110 octane fuel. Really not impressed, I miss my old service manager.

 

I'm very tempted to pull the trigger on the BD unit, but I have one burning question. If I were to flash the ECU to stock settings before the car goes in for service/oil change or whatever, will the techs be able to tell that it was programmed? After the lecture from the service manager I wouldn't want him to know that I was using a programmer.

 

Also- do I want the Power Pup or the Triple Dog GT?

 

also whats the difference between these two?

 

I'm guessing one has a bigger display and also offers more features, guess I have to look into it. Btw ended up paying 367.49 for my mine on ebay brand new.