I actually just ordered 5000k bulbs yesterday... $15 from vvme... Express DHL Shipping they should be here mid-next week. It's surprising how fast things can come all the way from China. Anyway, I agree with you that the 4300k looks great from some angles, but others still look a bit yellow due to the standard foglight housing. I'm hoping that the 5000k will be just a touch white enough to match the OEM headlights perfectly. I'll post some before and after pics.

 

You get flashed for your HIDs???? That's crazy.

As for your foglights, you can check where they are pointed by driving close to a garage door and looking at the light patterns. Mine are aimed down by the looks of it, but then again no one has ever driven my car, nevermind towards me so I don't know how they look from the road.

 

What is the watt range recommended for the fogs?

 

Annino, how did you create the H11 harness? I ordered a 5000k kit from DDM Tuning, but it wasn't truly plug-n-play. Needless to say, I'm using a lot of electrical tape right now Thanks!

 

I ordered H11 "extenders" from amazon... Just do a search for H11 harness and they should come up. I snipped off the female ends and soldered/heat shrunk them onto the HID input leads:



Let me know if you have any questions.

 

I live out in the country so the hillbilly's around here haven't seen too many HID headlights. I guess they assume that since my lights are so bright that I have my highs on. I always have my fogs on too, but I still get flashed. But that's okay, I when they flash me I cause retina damage to them when I flash them back with my Silverstar Ultra highs.

Are our fogs adjustable? I didn't notice when I replaced the bulbs. It would be nice if I could just turn them down if I have to. And isn't the constant on/off cycle of the fogs bad for the HID bulbs? I wish we could make them stay on all the time.

 

Couple of clarification questions:

non-HID headlights are H11 (low beam)
HID headlights are DS2 (low beam)
high beam headlights are 9005
fog lights are H11

To convert the non-HID to HID you need the bulbs and ballasts
To convert the fogs to HID you need the bulbs and ballasts
So, to convert both, you will need 4 bulbs and ballasts?

Anyway to get HID high beams?

 

I'm with you. I just want to change out the bulbs for some that look cool white instead of the warm yellow color. Not realy looking for an exact match, just a pair that is close enough. I agee that the 55watt seems to high, so what are the stock bulbs wattage rated at?

 

Yup. 9005 HID kit. Depends on your driving style though. If you mainly use high beams as flash-to-pass or for only a minute or two at a time, it's a bad idea, because HIDs have a minute or so warm-up time, and flashing them will reduce bulb life. If you generally keep your high beams on for awhile, then it's something to consider.

Or, go best-of-both-worlds, and get 9011 HIR1 high beam bulbs. They're halogen, but they're like 2500-2600 lumens (versus 3000 for HID and about 1700 for 9005)

 

I have H11 HID low beams AND fogs.
correct on the ballasts and bulbs a conversion kit should provide all that you will need.

 

I would recommend 35 watt. That is what the stock ballast are. The color match wouldnt be the same with the 55w and until I hear someone say that they have had 55w installed for over 4 months with no problem I wouldnt trust the extra heat. I can say i didnt want to be the guinea pig

 

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The Halogens are 55w and the Xenon are 35w. Refer to Page 8-26 in the Owners Manaul.
Here is an owner manual Link
http://www.courtesyparts.com/owners-manuals.php

Just because the Halogens are 55w doensnt necessarily mean that 55w xenons wont be too hot. Use caution if you consider the 55w Xenon. They could be fine, I just havent heard any first hand feedback yet...

On a side note... HIDs are rates in color by temperature. If you increase your wattage you will change your color. It will be hard to match fogs and headlights...

 

My fogs shine primarily on the low ground where they are supposed to but i have fliped them on and off to see what all the shine on and I have noticed them actually shining on the tree limbs above aswell. Without the projectors the range on light is really broad.

 

This is ok if your handy but for the true 1st timers. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-C...Q5fAccessories

 

HID vs stock halogens, BIG BIG difference from the drivers seat. I makes the immediate road very clear. It does help out in the for and on a rainy day when the asphalt is wet and super black. I highly recommend them for more than the look

 

I recommend 5000k -6000K to completely rid the yellowish look away

 

Thanks for the info, it's only a $50 investment so I might as well just go ahead and do it.

 

You will enjoy the night and glide through night. You will even take those daytime shortcuts at night because you can see better. 6000k is my choice.

 

So, the best bet is probably to find a high performance halogen 9005 bulb to attempt to match with the HID H11s since I don't usually use my high beams often?

 

My interpretation of the manual is under "Front Fog Lights" it says "55W, H11."

The 35W Low (Xenon) you mention falls under the headlight assembly section. It even has a different Bulb No. "D2S"

 

Thought the wattage question was for the headlights.

Anyway, for a match you would want the same wattage and the headlight HIDs are-35w.

Plus the headlights say 55w h11 or 35w d2s xenon. I would guess it would be safe to say if the fogs are 55w h11 and the safest HID upgrade would be what the factory upgraded the headlights to... 35 watts..

I have a friend who owns an new 2door altima. He installed regular 35 w where the turn signals go and that area of the headlight wasn't able to take the heat. I melted the turn signal area real bad so he unpluged them. He was a dumby and I laughed at him ( felt bad at the same time). But that is one reason I am real cautious of heat when it comes to HID bulbs. They will get really hot. When they test them from the factory they have to run them for a period of time. They say they have to run them in the horizontal position and not vertical for heat dissapation reasons... You don't hear that being said about regular halogens...

 

yep. I think you are wasting your money for the high beams.

 

Since the OEM HIDs are 35W, are most people buying 35W HID conversion kits or are they going with higher wattage? Thanks!

 

35W is plenty

 

Could I inquire as to the specific part numbers that you ordered from VMW for the HID foglights.

 

In your opinion, do your 6000K's match the stock HID headlights better than 5000K's would?

 

6000k bulbs, looks nice. Was SUPER easy to do.

I had a nice post setup to show the installation, however, this site has photo number/post rules and also wouldn't display my album photos correctly. Check out my album for the photos.

One thing I wanted to note was the size of the wiring used on the ballast wiring and it's implications as far as using a relay harness. Check out the following picture.

http://forums.maxima.org/album.php?a...ictureid=17118


The red/black wiring on the left is the wiring that comes with the ballast. The wires on the right are from the H11 plug I got from Amazon. Notice the BIG difference in gauge sizes of the wiring. The ballast wiring is much smaller. What this tells me is that a relay harness with it's higher power capacity is a waste of 40 bucks. The small wiring on the ballasts obviously supports the inrush current demands of the startup routine and so the vehicle wiring should as well. Plus, a higher than normal current draw for a few milliseconds won't be hurting anything. I plan on hooking my multimeter up to the lighting circuit soon and taking current measurements when the HIDs are turned on.

 

I would imagine the same wire is used from the factory for both HIDs and Halogens. It would make production faster and easier. You should be fine without a relay harness. $40 is just rediculous. You can make the same thing using the correct DC relay from an auto store and some wire and solder. They rip people off with the price.

As for the fog lights, I upgraded to HIDs and the ballast inrush current was more than the fuse on the fogs factory wires so I just made my own relay harness to play it safe..

So those HIDs are a lot nicer from the drivers seat than those halogens huh... Congrats on the new upgrade.

 

No, I think 6000k look the best in the headlight since the projector has a frost type of coloring over it which decreases light output but increases beam projection. If you can get 5000k you will have a stock look which having both to compare side by side made it easy for me. I have an SV no stock HID so I just added the 6000k to both. I may just purchase a set of 5000k for the fogs to see how it looks when I order the new 6000k bulbs for the SV premium and also add the HID to the fogs.

 

Yeah, MUCH nicer! I might step down to a 5000k bulb though. The 6000k kit in combination with the digital slim ballasts were on sale where I bought my kit.

I definitely agree with the headlight wiring being the same for HID vs halogen. It would make ZERO sense from a manufacturing perspective to have different wiring. In fact, the extra costs of having two separate configurations to keep track of and all of the corresponding part number, etc, would outwight the costs of using the wiring needed for the heavier application.

I also agree abou the price of the relay harnesses. What it DOES get you is the nicely packages wiring and chaffe sleeving. It's easy enough for anyone technically inclined enough to make their own relay harness.

 

I just put a set of 6000k headlights into my Max. The light is ever so slightly more blue than a stock color temperature. I'd say 5000k would be closer to stock.

 

Yup. Same reason that a lot of non-foglight cars already have wiring run to the foglight area, and only need you to purchase the brackets, the light, and the stalk.

 

For the Fog lights, it should be safe to just change the stock bulbs rated at 55w to a cooler color like 4900 -6000k color spectrum 55w instead of the warm color it has now? I'm just looking for a direct bulb replacement, not an HID setup. Although most people say that most replacement bulbs dont last so would it be better to use a lower 35w instead of 55w for the fogs?

 

Found this for you if your intrested. Its LED
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...Q5fAccessories

 

Check out this link. Relays are relays. The actual adapter that fits the HID ballast is the important part.

http://cgi.ebay.com/H10-9145-XENON-H...-/110465531210

 

Yup

 

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I merged the headlight/hid/foglight threads into 1 thread with all the info and am going to add it to the FAQ thread. Hope it keeps it easier to find this way.

 

Good choice

 

Nice so I can just buy the parts and connect the wires, and the fogs will turn on when the headlights turn on?