HID/Headlight/Foglight combo thread.
So, I had a wierd thing happen with my DIY HID install. Last night, when I turned the car on, both bulbs sparked but failed to stay lit. I turned the lights on manually (from auto mode) both sparked and one stayed lit. I didn't notice it until I got home. Then I turned them off and on again and both stayed lit.
For what it's worth, I have the AGT Digital Slim ballasts. Now I'm paranoid that only one bulb will be lit up all the time...
Anyone else with similar experiences?
For what it's worth, I have the AGT Digital Slim ballasts. Now I'm paranoid that only one bulb will be lit up all the time...
Anyone else with similar experiences?
trust me, no need for the 55w. I wouldnt risk the extra heat. 2Cents
You are not going to find an exact match without HIDs in the fogs. It's super easy to do and the time in minimal. At a 100ft distance the Headlights and fogs would be a clear diff. The stock HIDs are 4300 and if you search long enough you can find some 4300 for your fogs. It was just too yellow out of the projector for me. Highly sugg the 5000 or 6000.
Does anyone have 5000 installed??
Last edited by ANNINO; May 17, 2010 at 04:59 AM.
Just registered so bear with me! lol All this talk about D2s and H11 and connectors and everything else has my head spinning. I have a 2010 Max S and I'm looking to put HID's in(headlights only). I bought 8k's with ballasts off Ebay and seen nothing but good reviews about em. With that being said..."out" of the ballasts there are 2 AMP connectors that are connected to the H11 bulb itself. But there is also a wire with a female connector on one end and 2 metal connectors on the other. These wires are put throught the rubber boot also. Do I even need those wires? Or do all I need is the "out" of the ballast right to the bulb itself?
Just registered so bear with me! lol All this talk about D2s and H11 and connectors and everything else has my head spinning. I have a 2010 Max S and I'm looking to put HID's in(headlights only). I bought 8k's with ballasts off Ebay and seen nothing but good reviews about em. With that being said..."out" of the ballasts there are 2 AMP connectors that are connected to the H11 bulb itself. But there is also a wire with a female connector on one end and 2 metal connectors on the other. These wires are put throught the rubber boot also. Do I even need those wires? Or do all I need is the "out" of the ballast right to the bulb itself?
Just got a chance to throw my new bulbs in yesterday. This pic is obviously in direct sunlight, but I've found this is when the 4300k's look the yellowest. Look very carefully and you can tell that the 4300k on the left have a slight yellowish tint, while the 5000k on the right is much more of a pure white, thus matching the OEM color a bit better. They look even better at night.


Ok, so I don't usually black out my license plate for posting, but I was already in paint to crop the close-up and it seemed like my license plate was so darn huge in that pic, lol.
Flip- thanks, in person you can see the difference even more. They are definitly less yellow, but no where near blue. I will take some night pics when I get around to it. My first impression is that they are the whitest you can go without getting into blues. And light output is great, I can't notice any difference from the 4300's.
I havn't even looked for D2S bulbs because I plan on just keeping the OEM hids. My goal was to simply match the fogs as best I could. That being said, VVME.com (where I got all my stuff) sells D2S in allll sorts of colors (even pink if you want) here. What quality they are, I don't know. I have had fine luck with my fogs though.
Flip- thanks, in person you can see the difference even more. They are definitly less yellow, but no where near blue. I will take some night pics when I get around to it. My first impression is that they are the whitest you can go without getting into blues. And light output is great, I can't notice any difference from the 4300's.
I havn't even looked for D2S bulbs because I plan on just keeping the OEM hids. My goal was to simply match the fogs as best I could. That being said, VVME.com (where I got all my stuff) sells D2S in allll sorts of colors (even pink if you want) here. What quality they are, I don't know. I have had fine luck with my fogs though.
Because I have the S model it doesnt come with factory HIDS. And when I checked the buld size in the manual it says H11 because its not "equipped" with HIDs. So do I need to buy D2S or will the H11's that I have work?
Is the kit "plug-n-play"? i.e. does the factory H11 harness plug right into the ballast (this is not usually the case)? If not here's what I did - soldered a weatherproof connection onto the HID leads where the stupid spade terminals used to be:
I had to make an adapter for mine because the ballast connector was a female connector - same as my car's harness. I can't quite tell from your picture, but you may be in the same situation.
Last edited by umdpru; May 18, 2010 at 10:29 AM.
I dunno what you did to your car but here is an h11 bulb. I would imagine the wire that plugs into it from your car would have to be a male
Last edited by Flip2cho; May 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM.
H11 headlights (the actual bulb) has a female connection. Your saying your cars harness is a female aswell? Are you sure about that? The plug to switch the ballast on and off is made to act like the original H11 bulb so the factory wires can plug right into it.
I dunno what you did to your car but here is an h11 bulb. I would imagine the wire that plugs into it from your car would have to be a male

I dunno what you did to your car but here is an h11 bulb. I would imagine the wire that plugs into it from your car would have to be a male

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remove the front wheel
wheel well liner: pull out the forward (towards front of car) clips and the clips on the far side near the front
Also remove the 3 little screws along the bottom of the bumper and two plastic clips for the the splash shield (underneath)
Anywho, either way you should always have to have a male and female style plugs or else you can't make little HID babies...
That kit is not plug n play. It is a universal kit with H11 bulbs. The two wires with prongs connect to your factory harness which is currently attached to your factory bulb. You need to slide them in and then wrap it in tape or do as ANNINO did and add the proper connector. The connector with the yellow gasket attaches to the one coming off the ballast and should be tested for proper polarity prior to closing everything up. You could also order new bulbs that have the connector built in therefor making it true plug and play. It will work with what you have but you need to do more than open the box. This is what most Hid resellers are using to keep cost down and move units non specific.
That kit is not plug n play. It is a universal kit with H11 bulbs. The two wires with prongs connect to your factory harness which is currently attached to your factory bulb. You need to slide them in and then wrap it in tape or do as ANNINO did and add the proper connector. The connector with the yellow gasket attaches to the one coming off the ballast and should be tested for proper polarity prior to closing everything up. You could also order new bulbs that have the connector built in therefor making it true plug and play. It will work with what you have but you need to do more than open the box. This is what most Hid resellers are using to keep cost down and move units non specific.
Yeah, it gets complicated. All these transvestite plugs, where the male metal contacts go inside the female plug, which is then surrounded by the larger male plug. I think the determining factor is the metal contact, though.
Yup you are right. Atleast you understand where I went wrong. Maybe if these plugs had a sack like the ones you see on the hitch of a big truck it would make it more clear at first glance. Haha
Yes that is correct! Look at the pic of the adapter and you will see which side is positive. Its so called plug and play kits like that one that make the average afraid of installing anything on their cars.
the tabs come out easily. flat head screw driver and slowly pop out the center of the clip. the clip will fall right out
remove the front wheel
wheel well liner: pull out the forward (towards front of car) clips and the clips on the far side near the front
Also remove the 3 little screws along the bottom of the bumper and two plastic clips for the the splash shield (underneath)
remove the front wheel
wheel well liner: pull out the forward (towards front of car) clips and the clips on the far side near the front
Also remove the 3 little screws along the bottom of the bumper and two plastic clips for the the splash shield (underneath)
keep in mind that a standard plug connection will be waterproof. Simply inserting the metal clips into the factory harness will result in a connector that will be susceptible to water intrusion. In addition, the outer plug shell holds the connection together. By just inserting the metal clips into the factory harness, you are relying on friction to keep the connection together rather than a physical positive lock.
If you want, buy the H11 harnesses that Annino and I bought and ship them to me along with the HID interface wiring (not the whole kit) and I'll make you up a spiffy truly plug and play harness.
I had a whole post made out about this a few days ago explaining to you that yoru kit was not plug and play but I didn't want to seem like an a$$ because my ballast is different than yours and I coudln't truly be sure that the connector for the car harness from your ballast was the same as mine.
Anyways, here's a pic of the adapter I made up to interface with my car's plug. It's plug and play and is a watertight connection!

Here's a clarification picture I made the other day then decided not to post.

As far as the clips on the fender liner, I pulled the clips out to the top of the fender arch. That allowed me to bend the fender liner back behind the front suspension assembly out of the way. Provides mroe than enough room to work. I had also jacked my car up and removed the front wheels.
As a side note, I was impressed that jacking the car up from right behing the read sub-frame mount just behind the front wheels also raised the back-end up. That says something about the body stiffness!!!
If you want, buy the H11 harnesses that Annino and I bought and ship them to me along with the HID interface wiring (not the whole kit) and I'll make you up a spiffy truly plug and play harness.
I had a whole post made out about this a few days ago explaining to you that yoru kit was not plug and play but I didn't want to seem like an a$$ because my ballast is different than yours and I coudln't truly be sure that the connector for the car harness from your ballast was the same as mine.
Anyways, here's a pic of the adapter I made up to interface with my car's plug. It's plug and play and is a watertight connection!
Here's a clarification picture I made the other day then decided not to post.
As far as the clips on the fender liner, I pulled the clips out to the top of the fender arch. That allowed me to bend the fender liner back behind the front suspension assembly out of the way. Provides mroe than enough room to work. I had also jacked my car up and removed the front wheels.
As a side note, I was impressed that jacking the car up from right behing the read sub-frame mount just behind the front wheels also raised the back-end up. That says something about the body stiffness!!!
Last edited by umdpru; May 20, 2010 at 06:50 AM.
This is what you want
http://www.amazon.com/Go-Model-Plug-.../dp/B002RZXWQA
You'll have to do a bit of soldering but it's really not difficult!
http://www.amazon.com/Go-Model-Plug-.../dp/B002RZXWQA
You'll have to do a bit of soldering but it's really not difficult!
Holy sh$$ batman you really wanted hids this weekend. I guess it really won't make diffrence for you but the next owner will be cursing you till the end of time. Nice job anyway.






