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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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Hi Don,

I just got your VM, thanks for responding. I am trying to call you back, but its going to your VM. I will try to reach out to you again tomorrow. Thanks again.
Yes I saw a few more calls come in from you, unfortunately I was tied up on a conference call. I am sure we can speak tomorrow.
Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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question guys - i got my 5902 through a viper distributor and installed at the same place as well. if i order a few brand new DEI modules online (tilt, battery, glass-break) and have them installed at the Viper place are those eligible for warranty coverage? or are those items not covered. or even worse, would those void the warranty on the rest of the system?
Peripherals while technically not covered would be up to your dealer. I assume when you say 'distributor' you are meaning dealer, correct ?

They should not affect the rest of the system, but of course this is based on who is installing them. DEI - Directed has stepped up quite a bit in the past couple years, moreso this year, into protecting the product as well as the dealers. Safest best is always through a dealer for product and install.
Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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also in case u didnt know, by wiring this up yourself you're potentially voiding all kinds of Nissan warranties in addition to the warranty on the alarm itself. if you ever have any electrical issues with the car they'll open your fusebox see all the splicing and blame that. if its done at an authorized installer they cant void anything
What makes you think this ? Whether by a dealer or self install the warranty *can* be kept in tact. While I generally do not recommend the latter, it has no effect on warranty who the actual installer is.
Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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Peripherals while technically not covered would be up to your dealer. I assume when you say 'distributor' you are meaning dealer, correct ?

They should not affect the rest of the system, but of course this is based on who is installing them. DEI - Directed has stepped up quite a bit in the past couple years, moreso this year, into protecting the product as well as the dealers. Safest best is always through a dealer for product and install.
yes i mean dealer. i dont foresee the modules causing problems but i was quoted $75 to install all 3 if I got them myself, and around $250 to get them from the dealer + install. I got all 3 for like $50 on Amazon, but if this isn't worth the money I saved I'll just return them and get it all from the dealer.

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What makes you think this ? Whether by a dealer or self install the warranty *can* be kept in tact. While I generally do not recommend the latter, it has no effect on warranty who the actual installer is.
by a dealer im not questioning that they'll cover the warranty. im sure an experienced electrician/installer can do their own no problem but i wouldnt recommend anyone new to buy their Viper off Amazon and try doing it. I asked the dealership near me before getting into any of this and they said that an alarm installed by an authorized installer is fine, but if you have electrical issues down the road they'll most likely end up blaming your self-installed alarm unless you can prove otherwise.

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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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yes i mean dealer. i dont foresee the modules causing problems but i was quoted $75 to install all 3 if I got them myself, and around $250 to get them from the dealer + install. I got all 3 for like $50 on Amazon, but if this isn't worth the money I saved I'll just return them and get it all from the dealer.
Not sure exactly what modules you need, but if they are charging 5 times the cost for them, then I would search for another dealer. Unfortunately Amazon and the likes are low priced, Very low priced and in fact more often than not below dealer. However they should not be THAT low where the dealers upcharge is THAT much.

Many items online are 'fell off the back of a truck', refurbed but sold as new, counterfeit ( yes, Very common), distributors unloading to keep volume, etc.

The peace of mind is great to have, but at that cost I would surely search out a new dealer to form a relationship with. Although if ( not stating this to be the case, but it is sometimes) you are comparing every price he gives you to the internet, then it is quite possible, understandable and common that he is adjusting accordingly to deal with it.


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by a dealer im not questioning that they'll cover the warranty. im sure an experienced electrician/installer can do their own no problem but i wouldnt recommend anyone new to buy their Viper off Amazon and try doing it. I asked the dealership near me before getting into any of this and they said that an alarm installed by an authorized installer is fine, but if you have electrical issues down the road they'll most likely end up blaming your self-installed alarm unless you can prove otherwise.
The dealer has to provide the burden of proof, it is federal law. Typically they Will use scare tactics though. I know many former industry vets as well as some hobbyists that can run circles around installers in a 'professional' shop. This being said, the job that is done is what is most important to both the vehicle and should be to you. What the dealer WANTS to say or do is entirely on them. The fact still remains that technically it does not matter but generally yes, I would keep a shop on the job.

This of course all applies to the vehicle, not the product. Product on the other hand can and will be warranty void if bought and/or installed unauthorized.
Old Oct 17, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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DO NOT BUY VIPER ITEMS ONLINE! IT WILL NOT BE COVERED UP VIPERS WARRANTY.
Hey, thanks for the response!
Old Oct 18, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Yes I saw a few more calls come in from you, unfortunately I was tied up on a conference call. I am sure we can speak tomorrow.
Hi Don,

Thanks for taking the call and explaining in detail. That was most helpful.
Old Dec 9, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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does anyone know ...

If I get a remote start / alarm installed does anyone know if it will void the warranty on the car? I've heard yes and no ...
Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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If I get a remote start / alarm installed does anyone know if it will void the warranty on the car? I've heard yes and no ...
I made Nissan install a remote starter on my car. It's ok when your at home warming it up. The distance kinda sucks. I'll make a quick vid of it if you want. Just let me know and I'll show the brand that Nissan used
Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:15 PM
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I made Nissan install a remote starter on my car. It's ok when your at home warming it up. The distance kinda sucks. I'll make a quick vid of it if you want. Just let me know and I'll show the brand that Nissan used
yeah sure ...
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 04:05 AM
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I went to best buy and they wanted $400 to install plus the cost of the kit... Is that what everyone is paying?
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:43 AM
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I made Nissan install a remote starter on my car. It's ok when your at home warming it up. The distance kinda sucks. I'll make a quick vid of it if you want. Just let me know and I'll show the brand that Nissan used
After reading this thread I became even more confused.

The dealer promised me a remote start (a $500 option they said) due to the fact the first 2 Maximas they had prepared for me were damaged (thats another story in itself). Anyway, after reading this post I have questions from someone who had the dealer install the remote start:

1) Do you have to restart the car once you get in or can you unlock the door, get in, hit the start button to "on" and then hit the brake to shift out of gear and am on your way....

2) Can this be tied into the factory intelli key, I do not want any extra fobs...

3) Is it the dealers choice on what brand they install or is it dictated from Nissan corporate?

4) What should I make clear to the service guys before I get it installed. I cant stand commission based service writers and want to make myself clear...
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by preppygolf4r
If I get a remote start / alarm installed does anyone know if it will void the warranty on the car? I've heard yes and no ...
installed by an authorized installer - no it cannot and will not void warranty. installed by yourself? possibly

Originally Posted by jjklongisland
After reading this thread I became even more confused.

The dealer promised me a remote start (a $500 option they said) due to the fact the first 2 Maximas they had prepared for me were damaged (thats another story in itself). Anyway, after reading this post I have questions from someone who had the dealer install the remote start:

1) Do you have to restart the car once you get in or can you unlock the door, get in, hit the start button to "on" and then hit the brake to shift out of gear and am on your way....

2) Can this be tied into the factory intelli key, I do not want any extra fobs...

3) Is it the dealers choice on what brand they install or is it dictated from Nissan corporate?

4) What should I make clear to the service guys before I get it installed. I cant stand commission based service writers and want to make myself clear...
i would NOT pay $500 just for a remote start option that is ridiculous. you can add $200-300 to that and just get a Viper 5902 and have a state of the art security system as well that you can add tons of modules to. seriously though $500 just for a remote start is a waste of money imo. the factory alarm system on these cars is a joke so do yourself a favor and protect your car while you're at it

just get the Viper it works seamlessly, i hit the Start button twice after getting in, push the brake and drive off. I do have an extra keyfob but you sort of need it to see if your alarm is going off or not. so absolutely worth the investment.
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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installed by an authorized installer - no it cannot and will not void warranty. installed by yourself? possibly



i would NOT pay $500 just for a remote start option that is ridiculous. you can add $200-300 to that and just get a Viper 5902 and have a state of the art security system as well that you can add tons of modules to. seriously though $500 just for a remote start is a waste of money imo. the factory alarm system on these cars is a joke so do yourself a favor and protect your car while you're at it

just get the Viper it works seamlessly, i hit the Start button twice after getting in, push the brake and drive off. I do have an extra keyfob but you sort of need it to see if your alarm is going off or not. so absolutely worth the investment.
I hear ya, $500 is way too much... I am glad its for free. I will not deal with an extra fob and honestly could care less about an alarm. Thats why I pay for insurance. If they want to steal the car then take it... I dont leave anything of value in it and its a lease...

I wouldnt by an alarm and pay someone to install it on a lease.

Remote start on the other hand is idiotic to not be a factory option on a $40k sports car.
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jjklongisland
After reading this thread I became even more confused.

The dealer promised me a remote start (a $500 option they said) due to the fact the first 2 Maximas they had prepared for me were damaged (thats another story in itself). Anyway, after reading this post I have questions from someone who had the dealer install the remote start:

1) Do you have to restart the car once you get in or can you unlock the door, get in, hit the start button to "on" and then hit the brake to shift out of gear and am on your way....

2) Can this be tied into the factory intelli key, I do not want any extra fobs...

3) Is it the dealers choice on what brand they install or is it dictated from Nissan corporate?

4) What should I make clear to the service guys before I get it installed. I cant stand commission based service writers and want to make myself clear...

Keyport Nissan here in NJ charged me $215 for remote start system and for the vehicle Alarm Impact Sensor, $140. Was a good deal.
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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how many impact sensors did you get for $140? Viper 5902 gives you 6 (4 doors, trunk, hood) plus you can add tilt sensor, glass-break sensor, proximity sensor (these suck tho), backup battery, smartstart to start the car with your phone. $215 isnt too bad for a remote start tho
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
how many impact sensors did you get for $140? Viper 5902 gives you 6 (4 doors, trunk, hood) plus you can add tilt sensor, glass-break sensor, proximity sensor (these suck tho), backup battery, smartstart to start the car with your phone. $215 isnt too bad for a remote start tho
Impact sensors covers all painted surfaces, and all glass (according to Nissan ) I don't know about tilt sensors tho. Never tried it before but every time a car passes with a loud exhaust or sound system, my alarms triggers. Gets pretty annoying sometimes I wished it had smartstart tho. That would of been awesome. Viper systems are awesome. I have one installed on my 1995 Altima and it's been 2.5 years already and still going strong. I wanted one but shops that I went to didn't dare to mess with push to start I gave up and went with Nissan instead.
Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:47 PM
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If I get a remote start / alarm installed does anyone know if it will void the warranty on the car? I've heard yes and no ...

Here's the brand that Nissan used for my remote start. Cost $215.00 for me from the dealer

Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:00 PM
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My local shop wants $450 for this! I am still shopping but most places don't even know that this exists...
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 09:22 AM
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Here's the brand that Nissan used for my remote start. Cost $215.00 for me from the dealer

is that installed?
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Here's the brand that Nissan used for my remote start. Cost $215.00 for me from the dealer


do you remote start with the factory keyfob?
Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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do you remote start with the factory keyfob?
Yeah it does but the range kinda sucks. It works well only when I'm close to it. The range on the Viper on my Altima is wayyyy better. I had no choice cause nobody here in NJ would install a remote start on a push to start
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Yeah it does but the range kinda sucks. It works well only when I'm close to it. The range on the Viper on my Altima is wayyyy better. I had no choice cause nobody here in NJ would install a remote start on a push to start
Buy my plane ticket and I'll install it for free. LOL
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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thats pretty cool still though. i like the Viper especially the range but im no fan of the enormous keychain thing especially when its in the leather case. ima add smart start just so i can leave this damn thing at home
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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Buy my plane ticket and I'll install it for free. LOL

LOL are you being serious or you just want to reach your X amount of posts so you can post pics
Old Dec 29, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Got my Viper start installed tonight. All I have to do is unlock it by the remote or the button on the door, push in the brake and go. The seat positions itself after I push the brake. I don't have to push the start button at all.
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Just got a viper responder one 1, installed yesterday and I love it, it's a 1 button mini remote 2 way 2000 feet range. It cost me about 400 installed. The installer used the I datalink bypass. All I have to do is step on break and drive.
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Originally Posted by prettymofo345
Just got a viper responder one 1, installed yesterday and I love it, it's a 1 button mini remote 2 way 2000 feet range. It cost me about 400 installed. The installer used the I datalink bypass. All I have to do is step on break and drive.
Same one my installer put in mine and it was also $400. The proximity key and everything still works just as it did.
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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I just tried to get this installed and they gave me remotes. they said it was impossible to get it done without them.
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Now I have an extra remote and the car shuts down once I open the door...how can I get this to stop? The guy at the shop actually told me that he has never seen anything like I was talking about. Then I showed him a youtube video and he said it was "unsafe". It was like talking to a brick wall!
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Now I have an extra remote and the car shuts down once I open the door...how can I get this to stop? The guy at the shop actually told me that he has never seen anything like I was talking about. Then I showed him a youtube video and he said it was "unsafe". It was like talking to a brick wall!
When Nissan installed a remote start on my Max, it did the same thing as yours. It got kinda annoying so I brought it back to them. According to the tech, he reprogrammed it. I guess you can do the same thing
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Does it go off when you hit the brake?

I just argued with the guy for about 20 mins about how it can be done. He could not even get the right system to work with the factory fob so I won't be going back there. I even showed him a youtube video...haha.
Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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With the viper one I had installed I still have to carry the little remote. Mine only shuts down if it's been running longer then 20 min without me getting in and tapping the brake. Other than that mine doesn't shut off unless I turn it off.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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I want to get the viper smart start on mine but dont want to have to carry two fobs. Is that possible? I know with any turnkey car, you elimite the viper FOB because you have the app, but I also dont want to lose the functions of my Nissan FOB. I love being able to unlock/lock the doors with the door handle, roll the windows down and just leaving the key in my pocket.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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I want to get the viper smart start on mine but dont want to have to carry two fobs. Is that possible? I know with any turnkey car, you elimite the viper FOB because you have the app, but I also dont want to lose the functions of my Nissan FOB. I love being able to unlock/lock the doors with the door handle, roll the windows down and just leaving the key in my pocket.
OEM keyfob retains all original functions. you only need to carry the viper keyfob if you want additional viper features or remote start (or like you said just get the smart start app). btw dont get the VSS systems with smart start built in they all have terrible reviews
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Originally Posted by Ghozt
OEM keyfob retains all original functions. you only need to carry the viper keyfob if you want additional viper features or remote start (or like you said just get the smart start app). btw dont get the VSS systems with smart start built in they all have terrible reviews
Ok so I can basicly add any compatible viper alarm (SS compatible) and then add the SS module and still keep my Original FOB, and Just have the app. Therefore eliminating the need to carry the Viper FOB. Nice.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:54 AM
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Does it go off when you hit the brake?

I just argued with the guy for about 20 mins about how it can be done. He could not even get the right system to work with the factory fob so I won't be going back there. I even showed him a youtube video...haha.
Well the way my car goes, I hit the lock button 3 times on my factory key fob and the car starts. I get inside and tap the start button 3 times to activate the whole car then I'm off. The only time it shuts down is when I hit the brake without hitting the start button 3 times then it alarms. During remote start, my Max's engine and preset climate controls are the only things running: No radio, power windows, steering wheel disabled. Cool feature IMO
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:41 AM
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yea the Viper is similar, the electronics are sorta "on" and heat is working but you cant roll down the windows or open the sunroof. try to drive off without the keyfob and it shuts off
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Viper is the only way to go. Factory Fob arms/disarms the viper alarm and i just use my phone (Smart Start) to start my car and also control the alarm if needed.
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I just did some tests and I can start the car, while inside it, and just hit the button two times and my seat and steering wheel move then I am off. But when I hit the brake nothing happens. so I think the just put the brake lead to the door lead. If I can switch that I will be in good shape.

Starting the car two times every time will lead to problems in the future for sure...



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