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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 12:57 PM
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Fog Light swap, condensation thoughts

New 2107 SR Owner, of course I wanted to fix the fog lights to match. I have read all the threads and have experienced the Condensation issue. Here are My thoughts and what I have done which seemed to have resolved, *FOR ME*.

Live in the Southeast, Extremely humid.

Installed New JDM fog lights, next day, condensation, only on Driver side. Took Em out, Blow Dried, Compressed air, left open over night. Swapped the JDM Gaskets to Factory. Next day or 2, condensation.

So it seems obvious to me that this is a seal issue. But from what I have read it is only on the Driver Side, but does also happen with stock bulbs that have never touched on the passenger side.

Here is what I think, on the passenger side you need to unplug the bulbs to remove. You cannot even move the outside Bulb without unplugging it first, almost acting like a lock, this is not the case on the Driver side.
So it may be possible some come out of the factory a tad loose, or wiggle lose, on the driver side causing the condensation issue. Of course when we swap out the bulbs, the aftermarker housings may not be a tight fit.

Anyway, I Used some self-adhesive Silicon tape and beefed up the gasket a little on the Driver side Fog Lights, they now fit snug, with a good seal. Of course, Blow Dried, Compressed Air and aired out over night.

I am on a little over a week with no signs of moisture, either side.
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Old Aug 24, 2017 | 02:28 PM
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lol. I bought the same led bulbs and had condensation on the passenger side.
I bent the little tabs on the bulb ever so slightly to try and make a tighter fit. Its been about 3 months and no condensation. I live in south Florida so its +90% humidity all the time.

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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXIMATITAN
New 2107 SR Owner, of course I wanted to fix the fog lights to match. I have read all the threads and have experienced the Condensation issue. Here are My thoughts and what I have done which seemed to have resolved, *FOR ME*.

Live in the Southeast, Extremely humid.

Installed New JDM fog lights, next day, condensation, only on Driver side. Took Em out, Blow Dried, Compressed air, left open over night. Swapped the JDM Gaskets to Factory. Next day or 2, condensation.

So it seems obvious to me that this is a seal issue. But from what I have read it is only on the Driver Side, but does also happen with stock bulbs that have never touched on the passenger side.

Here is what I think, on the passenger side you need to unplug the bulbs to remove. You cannot even move the outside Bulb without unplugging it first, almost acting like a lock, this is not the case on the Driver side.
So it may be possible some come out of the factory a tad loose, or wiggle lose, on the driver side causing the condensation issue. Of course when we swap out the bulbs, the aftermarker housings may not be a tight fit.

Anyway, I Used some self-adhesive Silicon tape and beefed up the gasket a little on the Driver side Fog Lights, they now fit snug, with a good seal. Of course, Blow Dried, Compressed Air and aired out over night.

I am on a little over a week with no signs of moisture, either side.

I have the same problem, where did you buy that tape?
Old Aug 27, 2017 | 06:13 AM
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I have the same problem, where did you buy that tape?
Home Depot by me Has it -

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Nashua-Ta...8952/100206050
Old Aug 30, 2017 | 01:24 PM
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Thank You for this thread MaximaTitan!

I followed your advice. I added some extra wrap to my fogs. Hoping I have the same outcome as you did with your car. We are expecting rain this Friday. If it doesnt come, I need to go to the car wash anyway. Hopefully, I'll know if I am in the clear by the end of this weekend.

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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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Thank You for this thread MaximaTitan!

I followed your advice. I added some extra wrap to my fogs. Hoping I have the same outcome as you did with your car. We are expecting rain this Friday. If it doesnt come, I need to go to the car wash anyway. Hopefully, I'll know if I am in the clear by the end of this weekend.

SIDE BY SIDE BEFORE AND AFTER WRAP




Cool Man Hope it works for ya. Im still dry, so curious if this helps anyone else, or Im just Lucky.....
Old Aug 31, 2017 | 02:05 PM
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Try double the seals from the oems to the led.
Old Sep 1, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Ill check home depot for seals.

There was some slight condensation. Not as much as before... but I was still disappointed.
Old Sep 1, 2017 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsKnicksWVU
Thank You for this thread MaximaTitan!

I followed your advice. I added some extra wrap to my fogs. Hoping I have the same outcome as you did with your car. We are expecting rain this Friday. If it doesnt come, I need to go to the car wash anyway. Hopefully, I'll know if I am in the clear by the end of this weekend.

SIDE BY SIDE BEFORE AND AFTER WRAP




Thanks for the info and photos. Looking at your tape wrap you might want to wrap the tape so there are no gaps. The way yours is condensation may be a problem still. Hope not. You could take black silicone sealant and patch over some of the "holes" in the wrap.
Old Sep 1, 2017 | 11:50 PM
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Thats why!!! ok good point. I was thinking that i just needed to add blockage. I didnt think about a total seal. Thanks Comp! Ill try it.
Old Aug 17, 2019 | 11:33 PM
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How did you guys completely dry out the condensation in the fog light? I thought the hot weather would do the trick but it never dries out completely nor clears up and it’s hardly been raining. What do I need to do? The condensation is only on the driver side after replacing the LEDs back in 2017.
Old Aug 18, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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blow it out with a air compressor then wrap electrical tape around the seal. That worked for me.

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Old Aug 18, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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i used the rubber seals from an oem/factory bulbs and put vacuum grease (non-hardening silicone sealant should work fine) all-around the seals. and that, has not created any more issues; ranging from below 30F to 115+F, ambient.
i noticed that the aftermarket seals, that i pave used, somehow, does not create a good seal. that's my 2 cents.
Old Aug 18, 2019 | 06:37 PM
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Thanks. I will try this!
Old Aug 19, 2019 | 06:57 AM
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It’s has nothing to do with the seal. It’s the way aftermarket makes those cheap bulbs. The moisture can get through the bulb housing. You need to apply silicone on plastic connector cover. You can see that the gaps. it’s not really sealed constructions. Third pictures shows watermarks and that’s how it’s making it way inside the fog lights housings. BTW those are JDM brand. I believe majority of those aftermarket h16 LEDs made exactly this way.









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Old Aug 19, 2019 | 07:31 AM
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Awesome input. According to those pictures, I can see how the water would get in that way as well. A silicone treatment sees like a great idea as well. Thanks!
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