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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 02:48 PM
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2016 Maxima Platinum break pads

Breaks started making squeaking noises at about 12K. During my service check in April 2018 my Nissan service center took a look and said it was break dust. Stated they cleaned the break dust and all should be fine. Problem started again several days later. During one of multiple discussions with the service department I was told that "I had to live with it!". The service manager and the GM tried to tell me that it was because of the composition of the break pads in the industry. No solution available. I pushed back and the dealership finally replaced the break pads and resurfaced the rotors. Nissan USA paid for the service. Now one week later. The break noise is back. The service department at my local dealership is horrible. Tired of their lack of professionalism and courtesy. This my last Nissan!!!
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 02:55 PM
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Breaks started making squeaking noises at about 12K. During my service check in April 2018 my Nissan service center took a look and said it was break dust. Stated they cleaned the break dust and all should be fine. Problem started again several days later. During one of multiple discussions with the service department I was told that "I had to live with it!". The service manager and the GM tried to tell me that it was because of the composition of the break pads in the industry. No solution available. I pushed back and the dealership finally replaced the break pads and resurfaced the rotors. Nissan USA paid for the service. Now one week later. The break noise is back. The service department at my local dealership is horrible. Tired of their lack of professionalism and courtesy. This my last Nissan!!!
Your first post is claiming you have a noise then proceed to say its your last NIssan? Dealerships hate quacks like you.. Always hearing a noise that isn't there... Oh and its Brakes, not Breaks....
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nmax5150
Your first post is claiming you have a noise then proceed to say its your last NIssan? Dealerships hate quacks like you.. Always hearing a noise that isn't there... Oh and its Brakes, not Breaks....
Thanks for the intelligent reply. Do you work for Nissan?
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 03:22 PM
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I am on my 5th Nissan and have had almost no issues with the brakes. Over 100k+ miles on the pads and no issues of rotor warping. The only squealing I have ever had was with my wife's Murano and that was only when backing and only when very cold. Once the brakes warmed up it didn't do it again.

You may try removing the pads and adding additional anti-squeal grease to the back of the pads. That's what it is there for and you may need a little more.
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 03:26 PM
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Thank you

Thanks for the advice.
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Batman65
Thanks for the intelligent reply. Do you work for Nissan?
Worked for Infiniti for 10 years... I have owned 10 Nissans ..NEVER had a brake issue.... Sounds like you are hearing things..
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 03:50 PM
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I have found that Nissans have crappy rotors and eat rear brakes. Noises only when wear indicators contact rotors when brake pads about shot. I have had much better luck with aftermarket cheap crap than OEM
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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I have found that Nissans have crappy rotors and eat rear brakes. Noises only when wear indicators contact rotors when brake pads about shot. I have had much better luck with aftermarket cheap crap than OEM
That mostly depends on the driver's habits... I have seen 100k on rear brakes on at least 50k on the fronts.. Heavy braking and just overall stupid driving habits will wear anything prematurely....
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Mine squeal as well. Asked about it at my last service and was told something similar to the OP that it was normal and shows up when it is cold, they checked the brakes and found them to be in good condition. I don't have performance issues, just some minor squealing.
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wild *****
I have found that Nissans have crappy rotors and eat rear brakes. Noises only when wear indicators contact rotors when brake pads about shot. I have had much better luck with aftermarket cheap crap than OEM
Curious how you quantify that.
Old Nov 9, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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Mine squeal as well. Asked about it at my last service and was told something similar to the OP that it was normal and shows up when it is cold, they checked the brakes and found them to be in good condition. I don't have performance issues, just some minor squealing.
In the morning you will get a slight noise.. it is normal.. If you live in humid states.. it will be there no doubt.. I get it in the morning, but its gone in minutes...

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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nmax5150
In the morning you will get a slight noise.. it is normal.. If you live in humid states.. it will be there no doubt.. I get it in the morning, but its gone in minutes...
ditto on that. I live in a Florida, a very humid state and they always squeal at first. Not really a huge issue in my opinion. They still do a great job of stopping when they need to.

Old Nov 9, 2018 | 07:43 PM
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My 2016 Maxima SL has had the same brake squealing for quite some time. It's not temperature related - and I certainly don't live in a humid state (Utah). Like you, the dealership checked on it and stated that everything looks good. Possible batch of off-spec brake pads? Or perhaps your dealership was correct about the "composition of brake pads in the industry."
Old Nov 10, 2018 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nmax5150
That mostly depends on the driver's habits... I have seen 100k on rear brakes on at least 50k on the fronts.. Heavy braking and just overall stupid driving habits will wear anything prematurely....
I would agree 100% with you. However, my habits are not the problem. I drive like a 90 year old woman. Both 3.5 Altimas I owned rear brakes were gone by 15K miles. Fronts were fine.....Figure that out... Both Altima's front rotors warped very quickly. First one they cut them, warped again. Then replaced them, warped again. Replaced with Rock Auto Specials...not another issue. On my current one, rotors warped, I just replaced with Rock, I am at 35K on them and will replace at next brake job. Similar results on our Quest with rotors. No matter what Pads I use on the Altima, rear brakes do not last very long. For the record, Never had this issue on any other car. I have a 91 MR2, I am still on the OEM PAds and rotors...And I was in my early 20s when I bought that
Old Nov 10, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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Are you sure you don't unconsciously lightly rest your left foot on the brake?
Old Nov 11, 2018 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonhawk
Are you sure you don't unconsciously lightly rest your left foot on the brake?

Lol, no. I if I do it magically only applies the rears and only on Nissans.
Old Nov 11, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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Lol, no. I if I do it magically only applies the rears and only on Nissans.
It is something YOU are doing.
Old Nov 11, 2018 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Hatcher
It is something YOU are doing.
Yes, Buying Nissan Altimas.


https://www.nissanclub.com/forums/20...an-fronts.html
Old Nov 11, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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I have had this problem on my 2016 Maxima Platinum since nearly the beginning as well. Started maybe 3-5k miles in. Does not seem to be temperature related - does it in the summer and winter. It will wake the dead the first couple of times I press the brakes if it's below 40, though. It it not as loud after I drive it for a bit, but does it nearly 100% of the time for the first few times I apply the brakes on just about every drive.

Took it into the dealership a couple of times and they said the visual inspection was fine, though it continued to make noise. Third time, they machined the rotors and it solved it for about 2k miles. Fourth time, they were cool enough to replace all of the pads under warranty since they said the rotors were a bit glazed but the brakes were wearing normally. That solved it for another 5-7k miles or so before it started doing it again.

I believe that the Maxima Platinum has some sort of active braking assist on turns. I have often wondered if it has something to do with that feature - I certainly do not ride the brakes more than I have to or than I have done with all of the other cars I have owned (none of which had this problem).

It's really my only complaint about the car. Been meaning to try some of the anti-squeal grease/solutions mentioned above. Then was planning to just go for aftermarket pads when they wear out.
Old Nov 12, 2018 | 06:01 AM
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Ours makes all kinds of noise with soft braking, been doing it for more then half the time we owned it. It's a lease, not even sweating it, just going to give it back noisy.

This is a huge problem in the newest gen Max. NMax5150 is just trolling, he don't know sh!+...
Old Nov 12, 2018 | 09:42 AM
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I had the noise - they machined the rotors. Came back again. I don't give AF since it's a lease and when I get another one, I'm specifically calling out "brake service for life of lease" in my contract terms.
Old Nov 12, 2018 | 11:05 PM
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I had brake squealing on both my 1985 Maximas, but not on my 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th gen Maximas. I had my 7th gen for 7 years and the brakes were never touched by any service tech, and I never heard a sound of any kind.. So far I have over three years with my 2016 Platinum (assembled 8-20-15, bought 9-18-15), and not a whisper of sound from the brakes. I do use engine compression to begin slowing for a stop, and let off the gas well before any anticipated stop. I really like the total smoothness with which these brakes work. Not even a hint of chatter or warped rotors. . I have to be careful when making emergency stops, because this car stops so quickly that drivers following me have trouble stopping as fast as my car can. My Maximas have had the best brakes of any car I ever owned, and I have been driving since the mid-1940s. Yes, I've been getting senior discounts for over thirty years.
Old Nov 13, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lightonthehill
I had brake squealing on both my 1985 Maximas, but not on my 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th gen Maximas. I had my 7th gen for 7 years and the brakes were never touched by any service tech, and I never heard a sound of any kind.. So far I have over three years with my 2016 Platinum (assembled 8-20-15, bought 9-18-15), and not a whisper of sound from the brakes. I do use engine compression to begin slowing for a stop, and let off the gas well before any anticipated stop. I really like the total smoothness with which these brakes work. Not even a hint of chatter or warped rotors. . I have to be careful when making emergency stops, because this car stops so quickly that drivers following me have trouble stopping as fast as my car can. My Maximas have had the best brakes of any car I ever owned, and I have been driving since the mid-1940s. Yes, I've been getting senior discounts for over thirty years.
Many drivers seem to need to rapidly accellerate between stop signs while vigerously applying brakes (Not Breaks). That "cowboy" technique assures you of worn out brakes in less than 30,000 miles. I too use the downshifting to slow the car and gently apply the brakes. Never less than 60000 miles to replace the pads.
Old Nov 13, 2018 | 01:11 PM
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Brake life on my previous 7th generation Maxima and my wife’s Murano equals over 100,000 miles and still not completely worn out.

In my opinion the pads are not the problem. More than likely the problem is the nut behind the wheel.
Old Nov 13, 2018 | 03:26 PM
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I too use the downshifting to slow the car and gently apply the brakes. .
Pads are a lot cheaper than a transmission.
Old Nov 13, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 2young2retire
Brake life on my previous 7th generation Maxima and my wife’s Murano equals over 100,000 miles and still not completely worn out.

In my opinion the pads are not the problem. More than likely the problem is the nut behind the wheel.
i got to keep one foot on the brake to keep this cars beastly acceleration under control, is that a problem?

Old Nov 13, 2018 | 08:06 PM
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Had the same issue, changed the pads twice with OEM pads, still didn't solve the problem. Changed the rotors and pads to mid grade aftermarket pad and rotor, haven't had the problem since. It was a blower because it was a new car but once i got past that and changed them, man my life has been better
Old Nov 14, 2018 | 02:21 PM
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Pads are a lot cheaper than a transmission.
Certainly the case for a Manual Trans with a clutch, not so sure that's the case with the CVT and its computer. And on my 2010 max the trans has a lifetime warranty, I had to pay for the brakes!
Old Nov 14, 2018 | 05:42 PM
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It's not the driver in my case. Never had this problem prior to my 2016 Maxima. Noisy 8th-gen brakes isn't a new occurrence - it has been mentioned here before. There is no noticeable impact on braking effectiveness; it's a noise-related annoyance only. When my 2016's rotors and pads need replacement I'll go with one of the 3rd-party options.
Old Nov 15, 2018 | 05:53 PM
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Adding my 2 cents here. My 2016 brakes are squealing. Hot or cold, had the rotors resurfaced and still running into the issue. Have about 38k miles now, lots of stop and go traffic. Prior to the resurfacing, the dealership said the rotors were glazed over. The rotors don't seem warped at all, the car still stops quickly when I need to. Really thinking about getting them swapped out. Seems like every Nissan I've owned has had squealing brakes, whether I went factory or aftermarket.
Old Nov 15, 2018 | 06:02 PM
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I know it sucks to pay for something when the car is like new and still under warranty. The problem here IMO is the pads. I suggest you guys with noise issues go with some quality aftermarket pads and pay out of pocket (and have your rotors turned to remove any existing glaze).
Old Nov 16, 2018 | 06:42 AM
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I believe that the Maxima Platinum has some sort of active braking assist on turns. I have often wondered if it has something to do with that feature - I certainly do not ride the brakes more than I have to or than I have done with all of the other cars I have owned (none of which had this problem).
FYI - I have the answer to this (WHY do 2016 Platinum have brake squeal and glazed pads). It is NOT "active braking assist" on turns. It is "collision mitigation pre-braking.
(essentially the car is doing a minimal "riding the brake pedal")

The 2016 Maxima was - I believe - the first Maxima to have the collision mitigation.
For those of us with it (myself included), it "PRE-pumps" the brakes in a potential collision event (I thought it was the yellow and red crash indicator; but it may also do the white).

What does this mean? When you go to press the brake pedal, you can feel it is higher (closer to your foot) and firmer (as if the brakes have already begun to depress).

Why the squeal? Like any first attempt (ON THE MAXIMA, not on "any car" or "any Nissan"), there were bugs. This feature is now on many trims of the Maxima, Altima, Rogue, etc.
Do we see other posts about this? No.
Old Nov 16, 2018 | 08:34 AM
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FYI - I have the answer to this (WHY do 2016 Platinum have brake squeal and glazed pads). It is NOT "active braking assist" on turns. It is "collision mitigation pre-braking.
(essentially the car is doing a minimal "riding the brake pedal")

The 2016 Maxima was - I believe - the first Maxima to have the collision mitigation.
For those of us with it (myself included), it "PRE-pumps" the brakes in a potential collision event (I thought it was the yellow and red crash indicator; but it may also do the white).

What does this mean? When you go to press the brake pedal, you can feel it is higher (closer to your foot) and firmer (as if the brakes have already begun to depress).

Why the squeal? Like any first attempt (ON THE MAXIMA, not on "any car" or "any Nissan"), there were bugs. This feature is now on many trims of the Maxima, Altima, Rogue, etc.
Do we see other posts about this? No.
If this is the case, wouldn't the pedal be lower, not higher? In any case, are you suggesting that the brake pedal is computer controlled and is moving?
Old Nov 16, 2018 | 09:29 AM
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If this is the case, wouldn't the pedal be lower, not higher? In any case, are you suggesting that the brake pedal is computer controlled and is moving?
As a moderator, I'd presume you'd understand the physics of this - you want LESS space for your foot to travel. Not MORE.
Lower = further distance.
Higher = closer to your foot.

Scroll down to: Brake Assist (with a preview function)
https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TEC...RVIEW/iba.html
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As a moderator, I'd presume you'd understand the physics of this - you want LESS space for your foot to travel. Not MORE.
Lower = further distance.
Higher = closer to your foot.

Scroll down to: Brake Assist (with a preview function)
https://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TEC...RVIEW/iba.html
Of course having the pedal higher is better to reduce reaction time.

Let me clarify. I'm still thinking of conventional brakes. When the brake pedal is up high and you push on it slightly, the car begins to brake. As you push the pedal further, then car brakes harder.
So, if the pedal was down further (and the car pre-pumped the brakes according to the link) then I was thinking that closer to the floor was better such that the driver would only have to press the pedal just slightly more to get the full breaking effect. (Yes, I realize the pedal is further from the driver's foot causing an extra millisecond of lost reaction time). That's the point I was trying to make and just asking for clarification.

With the link, I now see that the same thing is accomplished with the brake pedal in it's normal position. How Nissan designed the collision mitigation -pre braking makes sense cause the reaction time is minimized and yet the braking effect is maximized (pre-puming effect). So, thanks for the link.

The article you linked makes no mention of the pedal being any higher. It states, "The system reduces play in the braking system to improve braking response." Please show me where it states the pedal is higher to reduce reaction time. Again, are you suggesting that the brake pedal is computer controlled and is moving?
Old Nov 16, 2018 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Of course having the pedal higher is better to reduce reaction time.

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The article you linked makes no mention of the pedal being any higher. It states, "The system reduces play in the braking system to improve braking response." Please show me where it states the pedal is higher to reduce reaction time. Again, are you suggesting that the brake pedal is computer controlled and is moving?
Dunno. As the mod, reach out to Nissan.
Old Nov 27, 2018 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
If this is the case, wouldn't the pedal be lower, not higher? In any case, are you suggesting that the brake pedal is computer controlled and is moving?
After paying special attention, I stand slightly corrected.
The brake pedal FIRMS UP when it detects an impending collision (level 1, level 2, level 3, or 'oh sh-t').
So it "feels" higher - it's the sensation that as soon as you move to the brake pedal, something actually happens (nearly zero slack).
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