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Old May 27, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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Make sure you get the injector electrical connectors with some extra wire on them.
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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They eliminated the EGR tube.

Sad thing is that they stay closed until >3200rpm on 5th gens. or when coolant temp is low.

You can feel the surging when they open/close as you throttle above/below the cutoff point.

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I already broke them off :\ sorry...

I dont get the point of them anyways, when there closed they cover up the entire hole, except for a small about an inch big square to allow air through.. :\
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Terran
Make sure you get the injector electrical connectors with some extra wire on them.
How do I do that and where from? Car-parts.com? Can anyone give me a ballpark breakdown of how much these parts will cost if I get them all from car-parts.com? Jus wanna know about how long I have to save to get em all.
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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You get them from the junkyard. You might have some trouble convincing them to hack up the wiring harness though...I'm not sure. I may end up buying a complete engine.
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Terran
You get them from the junkyard. You might have some trouble convincing them to hack up the wiring harness though...I'm not sure. I may end up buying a complete engine.
The injector wiring harness?? Why would they need to hack it up? I wouldn't think they'd have a problem selling me everything whole from the heads up from a 00 Max engine if I buy it all at once would they?
Old May 27, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Are you implying that I have to solder the 00 injector connectors onto the A32 injector wiring harness?
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxesRule
Are you implying that I have to solder the 00 injector connectors onto the A32 injector wiring harness?
Exactly....
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Terran
Exactly....
So there's no way I could use the whole 00 wiring harness and connectors and jus replace whatever it is it connects to on the opposite end of the injectors huh? Oh well, that's fine w/ me, only thing is I don't have any experience whatsoever w/ splicing and soldering wires. But I'm willing to learn though.
Anybody in the central Florida area willing to assist me w/ this project? lol
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Where is Kevlo? I know he's someplace in florida.

I'm kinda sketchy on soldering too.
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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lol That makes me feel a little bit better.
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Hey Kevlo you on here?
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Any response to this?

So there's no way I could use the whole 00 wiring harness and connectors and jus replace whatever it is it connects to on the opposite end of the injectors huh? Oh well, that's fine w/ me, only thing is I don't have any experience whatsoever w/ splicing and soldering wires. But I'm willing to learn though.
Anybody in the central Florida area willing to assist me w/ this project? lol

And this?

How do I do that (get the injector electrical connectors with some extra wire on them) and where from? Car-parts.com? Can anyone give me a ballpark breakdown of how much these parts will cost if I get them all from car-parts.com or a junkyard? Jus wanna know about how long I have to save to get em all.
Old May 27, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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I don't think they'd (carparts or a junkyard) have a problem selling me everything whole from the heads up from a 00 Max engine if I buy it all at once would they?
Old May 27, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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You would be surprised how many junkyards do not want to seperate that manifold from there engines....

Luckily I found one in Opa Locka to do it, but they wont give me the wiring harness... So im missing 3 injector plugs, I have the 3 that come on the subharness tho.

I got everything for $400.
Old May 27, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by s0ber
You would be surprised how many junkyards do not want to seperate that manifold from there engines....

Luckily I found one in Opa Locka to do it, but they wont give me the wiring harness... So im missing 3 injector plugs, I have the 3 that come on the subharness tho.

I got everything for $400.
So is it jus better to try car-parts.com? I hear that's where a lot of you guys got ur parts from so that's the only reason y I'm askin.
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Why don't you check it out? There's only one fed spec upper IM on there now.
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
They eliminated the EGR tube.

Sad thing is that they stay closed until >3200rpm on 5th gens. or when coolant temp is low.

You can feel the surging when they open/close as you throttle above/below the cutoff point.
Mine brought the Swirl Valves + EGR Opening, thats still the 2000 CaliSpec right?
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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EGR opening where?
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
EGR opening where?
Same place it is on all A33 IM's that have EGR...

Under the Throttle Body, I even have the EGR Guide tube.
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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So, you have the swirl valves in the LIM and an EGR tube(not block off plate over hole) behind the throttle body, correct?
Old May 27, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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If you have the swirl valves in the LIM, the LIM is from a Cali-spec.

If you have a tube and not a block off plate below/behind the throttle-body, then the 2000 Cali specs have EGR like the 2000 Fed specs. 2001s are all Cali spec and do not have EGR.
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
So, you have the swirl valves in the LIM and an EGR tube(not block off plate over hole) behind the throttle body, correct?
Yes sir, I thought it either came with Swirl Valves, or EGR, but mine is both... I learn new things everyday.
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Can you post a pic of the EGR guide tube into the IM?

Are you sure the LIM and IM came from the same motor?
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Can you post a pic of the EGR guide tube into the IM?

Are you sure the LIM and IM came from the same motor?


And you saw the lower IM that I posted, I removed the swirl valves from that tho...

Im pretty sure it came off the same engine, according to the junkman it came off a running 2K Engine, he never mentioned scavenging for parts..
Old May 27, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Thanks...I'm going to confirm that, but I'm sure you're right.

Looks like 2000 fed and cali both have EGR, while all 2001s are cali and don't.

Reason I'm so concerned is that it blows my 2001 ECU in a 2000 cali spec vehicle dream away.

Thanks for the help and especially the pictures~!
Old May 27, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Haha...that's a FED SPEC manifold...your LIM and UIM are not from the same car.
Are you serious, what kinda retarded mix do I have here.. LOL

Junkmen work in shady ways..
Old May 27, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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No..no..I'm confusing myself.

Apparently, the difference between 2000 cali specs and 2001 cali specs includes that gold bell shaped "swirl control valve actuator". 2000 calis use that, while 2001s is next to the VIAS valve?? Not sure yet.
Old May 27, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
No..no..I'm confusing myself.

Apparently, the difference between 2000 cali specs and 2001 cali specs includes that gold bell shaped "swirl control valve actuator". 2000 calis use that, while 2001s is next to the VIAS valve?? Not sure yet.
Ah I see now, so were back to the mystery of what this thing is...
Old May 27, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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It's a "throttle opener"...false alarm.

2000s have that...2001s don't.
Old May 27, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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So does all this mean that a 2000 fed spec and 2000 cali spec UIM are the same? Just the LIM is different? That would open up some options as the LIM seems to be easier to come by (at least on car-part.com).
Old May 29, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Ok fellas, I am back. I am in Northwest FL. Near Destin and Panama City.

Alot of confusion in the thread after I left

Upper IM's are about the same, except for the VIAS activator, some have 2 vaccum ports and 2 connectors while others have 1 and 1. And the cali spec will have a plate over the EGR port.
Old May 29, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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So what's up with S0ber's UIM? Did he actually get a fed spec?
Old May 31, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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No, looks like he got the bastard child 2000 Cali spec. manifold.

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So what's up with S0ber's UIM? Did he actually get a fed spec?
Old May 31, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
No, looks like he got the bastard child 2000 Cali spec. manifold.
Oh boy. So when kevlo said "And the cali spec will have a plate over the EGR port" is he incorrect or am I misunderstanding things? It looks like s0ber has the EGR guide tube on his supposedly '00 cali-spec which kevlo says should be blocked off.
Old May 31, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Three types of setups:

1)2000 Fed EGR tube, no swirl valves
2)2000 Cali EGR tube and swirl valves
3)2001 Cali no EGR tube, block off plate, and swirl valves.
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Hmm interesting. Krismax's was suppose to be 00fed spec and he had swirl vavles
Old May 31, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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I doubt that, but who knows with Nissan and their crossbreeds. Hell they switch stuff up in the same production year, so it could depend on production date.

FSM says swirl valves are Cali models only, but that doesn't mean it's 100% true.
Old May 31, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Ok. Thanks for clarifying things for me. Is there a way to block off swirl valves if I did end up with an '00 cali spec?

*edit* After re-reeading above it looks like the swirl valves are located in the LIM, so I could get a calispec UIM and a fed spec UIM.
Old May 31, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I doubt that, but who knows with Nissan and their crossbreeds. Hell they switch stuff up in the same production year, so it could depend on production date.

FSM says swirl valves are Cali models only, but that doesn't mean it's 100% true.
ive gotten two fed specs so far egr and swirl valves in both
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Ok. Thanks for clarifying things for me. Is there a way to block off swirl valves if I did end up with an '00 cali spec?

*edit* After re-reeading above it looks like the swirl valves are located in the LIM, so I could get a calispec UIM and a fed spec UIM.
You can remove the Swirl Valves in the Lower IM if you do get them, u just have to plug 2 holes so you wont have a leak.



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