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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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^you shush!!!
I got a spare 99 altima distributor laying around, you want it? lol
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I believe so. Their 5/16" spacer out performs the replacement plenums. Amazing
truely. and aren't those spacers like a 1/5 of the cost of a plenum?
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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here is a link
http://www.motordyneengineering.com/350Z.asp
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Just 2 more questions, and i'll be on my way.

1. What car was the hood scoop from? Or what dimensions?
2. What size is the intake piping?
Old Mar 8, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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brushedpewter do you even kno anything?
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninos_Maxima
brushedpewter do you even kno anything?
Now you shush!! You've had your share of re--o questions/posts too you know...
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SPiG
If you cut off the TB and TB bend would it fit or is the plenum still too high?
if you did that to lower the height just a little bit, you may be able to get by without cutting a hole in the hood.

i was thinking maybe just cutting away some of the bracing underneath and if that wasn't enough (and you didn't want to have a hole in your hood) to use hood spacers (like some of the 350z guys). i know some people hate the look, but hey, it drops engine bay temps.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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if you did that to lower the height just a little bit, you may be able to get by without cutting a hole in the hood.

i was thinking maybe just cutting away some of the bracing underneath and if that wasn't enough (and you didn't want to have a hole in your hood) to use hood spacers (like some of the 350z guys). i know some people hate the look, but hey, it drops engine bay temps.
like i said the hood wont close even if the neck is cut off and welded in a different position. and about the spacers, look at the pics and see how big of a hood spacer you will need. the im sticks about 2" out of the hood.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
like i said the hood wont close even if the neck is cut off and welded in a different position. and about the spacers, look at the pics and see how big of a hood spacer you will need. the im sticks about 2" out of the hood.

thanks for clarifying vsammy. it's just kind of hard to tell by the pics and i haven't seen it in person, so i was just speculating.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by aznsap
thanks for clarifying vsammy. it's just kind of hard to tell by the pics and i haven't seen it in person, so i was just speculating.
The pics are somewhat misleading then.



In this photo it looks like it sticks out maybe 1 inches TOPS, with the TB looking to be what is the highest point. It doesn't look like it sticks out 2 inches in ANY of the picstures???

Now on to this pic:

The hood casts a shadow at the beginning of that elbow, meaning the elbow is lower than the hood right?

My plan is to cut the elbow off, weld a 3 inch pipe roughly 2-3 inches long at a downward angle then weld a TB adapter. I don't see how that would be a problem, seeing how the elbow/TB are the tallest points on the IM.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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fine go ahead and try. i really dont care what you do to your intake.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
fine go ahead and try. i really dont care what you do to your intake.
Now see, Vasily, this is why some people don't like you. Instead of making an effort to help people with their misunderstandings, you treat them like dirt. Well, what goes around comes around.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Now see, Vasily, this is why some people don't like you. Instead of making an effort to help people with their misunderstandings, you treat them like dirt. Well, what goes around comes around.

You also forgot to add he is very selective in what information he chooses to share when it comes to innovations.....Very selfish but i guess he has every right to be.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
fine go ahead and try. i really dont care what you do to your intake.
That's fine if you don't, but other people may like to hear that you can have a Z manifold on if you cut the manifold up, and not the hood
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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like i already said before it will not work but people on the org still have their ways and sometimes it gets annoying when people ask the same question.

like i said the manifold sticks about 1.5" inches out of the hood or soemwhere clsoe to that. the highest point is the tb and the area after the tb where i have the coupler. if you use the z-tube, the hood still doesnt clear.

the question is who is goign to weld for you and how many people are going to cut up it up and then weld it. if that was the easier way to do it we would have went that way but cuttign the hood is the easiest way. plus if the neck was facing the other way it still would be too high.

and to whoever said that some info is not shared, i have every right to do that because there are people on the org that do that and they charge people for the work they do but i wont get into that.

any more questions?
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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sigh.






The highest point is the TB, ON YOUR SETUP.

It won't be on mine.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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I should just draw a picture.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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the cable tb will also still be at a very high point and on my setup the tb and coupler is the highest point. like i said if i used the z-tube which i have, then the hole in the hood would have to be bigger because the z-tube doesnt slope down enough. that is why i used the coupler. it lets me put the piping lower so it would clear.

i dont haev the dimensions of the scoop as of yet
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
I should just draw a picture.
I can picture what you're talking about. I say go for it and then post up pics so we can see how it turned out.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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I should just draw a picture.
well lets see how well your drawing skills are then
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nismo3112
I should just draw a picture.

lol. too bad our spring breaks don't overlap, otherwise i'd come over.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ninos_Maxima
brushedpewter do you even kno anything?
I know enough to get 27.6mpg 70% city driving/30% hwy driving. Automatic at that too.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Just to give you an idea of what it would need to look like if we could fabricate a custom Plenum. The TB facing down and pointing straight out of the back. My question was how much would the red area hit the hood? Would it be possible to fix that with hood spacers and cutting the hood support?

I don't think anyone is saying how you did it was wrong, but if it were possible I would want it to go in without cutting the hood much. Your way is a lot easier.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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^^^
Wouldn't there be a performance loss if you modified it to your plan.

I'd rather have a bump in the hood than to modify a Plenum and lose power so the car will look stock. Besides most of you guys aren't stock anyway, you got rims, tint and painted calipers.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
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Wouldn't there be a performance loss if you modified it to your plan.

Why would there be a loss?

I'd rather have a bump in the hood than to modify a Plenum and lose power so the car will look stock. Besides most of you guys aren't stock anyway, you got rims, tint and painted calipers.
Good for you. What mods do you have?
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Why would there be a loss?
And how do you know there wouldn't be?

mods...
*Tranny cooler
*Active Tuning grounding kit
*300zx radiator cap with 1.2 bar
*and some airdonamic stuff under the car
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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All you are doing is taking that bend out.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
well lets see how well your drawing skills are then
2 min rendering:
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
And how do you know there wouldn't be?

mods...
*Tranny cooler
*Active Tuning grounding kit
*300zx radiator cap with 1.2 bar
*and some airdonamic stuff under the car

Answer my question. WHY would there be a poss of power? They are removing a BEND, not restricting the air or anything.


Sweet mods
I mean all the people in the All Motor forum have rice...


You must be their cousin or other brother I don't know about.
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Mad MS Paint Skillz.


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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Answer my question. WHY would there be a poss of power? They are removing a BEND, not restricting the air or anything.


Sweet mods
I mean all the people in the All Motor forum have rice...


You must be their cousin or other brother I don't know about.
I'm thinking that there will be a slight low end loss. But a little better top end without that bend.

not a cousin and definetly not a brother. Just a commi.
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
I'm thinking that there will be a slight low end loss. But a little better top end without that bend.


You might be right but I doubt it will be anything too severe or anything to worry about. They dont need too much low end anyways, they need more traction
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ninos_Maxima
brushedpewter do you even kno anything?



Originally Posted by SPiG
Mad MS Paint Skillz.



Just to give you an idea of what it would need to look like if we could fabricate a custom Plenum. The TB facing down and pointing straight out of the back. My question was how much would the red area hit the hood? Would it be possible to fix that with hood spacers and cutting the hood support?

I don't think anyone is saying how you did it was wrong, but if it were possible I would want it to go in without cutting the hood much. Your way is a lot easier.

i was thinking the same thing about the hood spacers.

and gawd those drawings are terrible (but i commend your effort). you should play yahoo graffiti to work on that hand mouse coordination.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Now see, Vasily, this is why some people don't like you. Instead of making an effort to help people with their misunderstandings, you treat them like dirt. Well, what goes around comes around.
well u guys treated him like crap for the last couple of pages.....
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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well u guys treated him like crap for the last couple of pages.....

Too bad he deleted the other thread, then you would understand why.
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im lost a bit back someone hinted upon why would nissan build this superior im with a possible flaw, but now u guys want to hack it apart and weld it how u see fit? im not saying its not gonna be as good as the stock unit but HOW do u guys kno that its going to work ok
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
I know enough to get 27.6mpg 70% city driving/30% hwy driving. Automatic at that too.
That is just stupid. You know how to put your foot on the pedals. Hooray you.

Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
And how do you know there wouldn't be?

mods...
*Tranny cooler
*Active Tuning grounding kit
*300zx radiator cap with 1.2 bar
*and some airdonamic stuff under the car
so no mods?
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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i think it's working backwards. the most cost effective thing would be to cut the hood. that's what i'm doing. If heat is an issue, I'd insulate the intake tube. vsamoylov had the right idea when he did this, because hood clearance is a big issue to some people, but apparently for others, it is not, me included. i would rather hack a hood than hack an intake manifold.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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I don't know about cost effective. I'm sure the carbon fiber scoop cost a bit of money. Welding my intake manifold at a machine shop will be $60 tops. $4-$5 for the adapter plate material.
Old Mar 9, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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vsamoylov, can you measure exactly how much is sticking out from the hood? Based on this pic, it looks like it would be around 1."



Could the LIM, the clamshell, and the elbow all be milled down so that the hood could close?



If you milled down each surface like 1/4", you might be able to get the hood to close without a scoop.



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