DEK Emange ultimate and Dyno jet= not so good
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DEK Emange ultimate and Dyno jet= not so good
Ok Ill post the sheet when I get home.
My only mods are a buget Y-pipe,Cai, And emange Ultimate
My Timing is advaced to 11 degrees above stock and my air fuel was at a mostly 13.4
I have a red line of 7200 rpms. My fist runs was done at 10degrees and we moved up to 11 and seen a 2 hp increase. I had no nock on dyno. the higest knock level seen on the eu logger was 26 at about 7000.
Ok I made peak power at 6200 rpms and then it start to fall off
peak torque was made at 3800 rpms
The sae corrected #s are 195.74 whp and 192.09 wtq
Are these good #s for the mods I have. What would a stock dek make.?
And why did the power fall on the top end?
My only mods are a buget Y-pipe,Cai, And emange Ultimate
My Timing is advaced to 11 degrees above stock and my air fuel was at a mostly 13.4
I have a red line of 7200 rpms. My fist runs was done at 10degrees and we moved up to 11 and seen a 2 hp increase. I had no nock on dyno. the higest knock level seen on the eu logger was 26 at about 7000.
Ok I made peak power at 6200 rpms and then it start to fall off
peak torque was made at 3800 rpms
The sae corrected #s are 195.74 whp and 192.09 wtq
Are these good #s for the mods I have. What would a stock dek make.?
And why did the power fall on the top end?
#3
Do a compression test to see if your engine is healthy. Are u manual or auto?
Your catback may be leading to the bottleneck in your engine. I would put one on so you can get extra ponnies.
Your catback may be leading to the bottleneck in your engine. I would put one on so you can get extra ponnies.
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Originally Posted by speed racer
Do a compression test to see if your engine is healthy. Are u manual or auto?
Your catback may be leading to the bottleneck in your engine. I would put one on so you can get extra ponnies.
Your catback may be leading to the bottleneck in your engine. I would put one on so you can get extra ponnies.
#9
I'm not sure. But you think the VIAS closed and that's the reason why you went super rich b/c there wasn't enough air. I don't know anything about the EU but from a functional standpoint it seems like that is what happened in the high rpms.
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I'd say those numbers are a bit low, but not horrible for those mods. Engine seal/wear could be a factor (check compression), but also keep in mind that having the cat and catback in place, plus no headers is going to hurt you and especially on the top end. Also a Place Racing style CAI is not ideal for top end either, and what kind of filter do you have on there? I've personally seen differences of about 5 hp on the dyno (on my car no less) just on filter type alone. A bit surprising, but true.
The power peak at 6200 rpms is normal for a stock DEK, and that dip at the rev limit may look worse than it is if it was done in 4th gear (how smooth does the transition feel going through gears 1-2-3?)
Where were those A/F readings taken? ie was the dynojet sniffer after the cat or before it? What did the EU and your Zt-2 say the a/f was... 13.4?
Oh and don't forget wheel size and weight will matter also...
The power peak at 6200 rpms is normal for a stock DEK, and that dip at the rev limit may look worse than it is if it was done in 4th gear (how smooth does the transition feel going through gears 1-2-3?)
Where were those A/F readings taken? ie was the dynojet sniffer after the cat or before it? What did the EU and your Zt-2 say the a/f was... 13.4?
Oh and don't forget wheel size and weight will matter also...
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From: oburg S.C.
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Also stock cat + tail sniffer = incorrect AF readings
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
I'd say those numbers are a bit low, but not horrible for those mods. Engine seal/wear could be a factor (check compression), but also keep in mind that having the cat and catback in place, plus no headers is going to hurt you and especially on the top end. Also a Place Racing style CAI is not ideal for top end either, and what kind of filter do you have on there? I've personally seen differences of about 5 hp on the dyno (on my car no less) just on filter type alone. A bit surprising, but true.
The power peak at 6200 rpms is normal for a stock DEK, and that dip at the rev limit may look worse than it is if it was done in 4th gear (how smooth does the transition feel going through gears 1-2-3?)
Where were those A/F readings taken? ie was the dynojet sniffer after the cat or before it? What did the EU and your Zt-2 say the a/f was... 13.4?
Oh and don't forget wheel size and weight will matter also...
The power peak at 6200 rpms is normal for a stock DEK, and that dip at the rev limit may look worse than it is if it was done in 4th gear (how smooth does the transition feel going through gears 1-2-3?)
Where were those A/F readings taken? ie was the dynojet sniffer after the cat or before it? What did the EU and your Zt-2 say the a/f was... 13.4?
Oh and don't forget wheel size and weight will matter also...
#18
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
ok I dont have a cat. I have a test pipe the reading from the dyno to the eu to the zt-2 was all about with in .2
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Oh, i missed the part about you having a test pipe. But I would def look into a cutout or catback. It should help raise the curve on the entire top end.
I got to get that rev cut better too have you had time to work with yours? i got to finish wiring my new alarm in and im going out to try to work on mine a little. Have you tryed the way danny told you? Thats the way I have mine set now.
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Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
yeah im going to try to get a cat back and udp next week to try to re dyno.
I got to get that rev cut better too have you had time to work with yours? i got to finish wiring my new alarm in and im going out to try to work on mine a little. Have you tryed the way danny told you? Thats the way I have mine set now.
I got to get that rev cut better too have you had time to work with yours? i got to finish wiring my new alarm in and im going out to try to work on mine a little. Have you tryed the way danny told you? Thats the way I have mine set now.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Messed with it a lil bit today, will mess with it more tonight. I did most of the air fuel, except past 6400. Timing finetuning is next.
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I have yet to connect the knock sensor. I will try it out and see how it works for me. Can you hear any of the knocking when the EU sees it?
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hey 93turbogxe
i put down about the same numbers on my dek in my 5th gen. my first past was 181 hp and 180 tq and after tuning with a vafc i made 196hp 194 tq with a 13.5 afr. i have the GAB, with ypipe and hks cat back. that was on 17" wheels and on a day where the temp was almost 90 and straight onto the dyno from the highway drive down there. i wish i was able to rev as high as you but i will some day.
i put down about the same numbers on my dek in my 5th gen. my first past was 181 hp and 180 tq and after tuning with a vafc i made 196hp 194 tq with a 13.5 afr. i have the GAB, with ypipe and hks cat back. that was on 17" wheels and on a day where the temp was almost 90 and straight onto the dyno from the highway drive down there. i wish i was able to rev as high as you but i will some day.
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Originally Posted by xlcrew
hey 93turbogxe
i put down about the same numbers on my dek in my 5th gen. my first past was 181 hp and 180 tq and after tuning with a vafc i made 196hp 194 tq with a 13.5 afr. i have the GAB, with ypipe and hks cat back. that was on 17" wheels and on a day where the temp was almost 90 and straight onto the dyno from the highway drive down there. i wish i was able to rev as high as you but i will some day.
i put down about the same numbers on my dek in my 5th gen. my first past was 181 hp and 180 tq and after tuning with a vafc i made 196hp 194 tq with a 13.5 afr. i have the GAB, with ypipe and hks cat back. that was on 17" wheels and on a day where the temp was almost 90 and straight onto the dyno from the highway drive down there. i wish i was able to rev as high as you but i will some day.
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