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Old 09-18-2008, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ghostmax301
yea, i think i actually broke the gear.. was going through the gears, didnt even go to 3rd hard, as soon as it got in, i heard a crack and pop and the rpms shot up.. took it out of 3rd, put it back in..Car acted as if it was in neutral.

Ill look around for you, i think i might
Glass trans FTL.
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dang bad luck
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Old 09-19-2008, 06:37 PM
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yea...might just put nitrous on it and act like i never had a midrange loss.. LMAO j/p

pulling out tranny tomorrow morning..update coming soon
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Interesting....
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:00 PM
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nooo.. YOU'RE interesting Mister!!!! i saw what you did there! a-he-ahehe
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Either your pump isn't able to keep up with the volume or you have a defective AFPR. By the way where is your vacuum source coming from?
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:54 AM
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vacuum is coming from manifold.. what should a defective afpr do under load...im going to get a external fuel psi gauge to watch it while in motion
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Old 09-22-2008, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ghostmax301
vacuum is coming from manifold.. what should a defective afpr do under load...im going to get a external fuel psi gauge to watch it while in motion
as your vac decreases the fuel psi should increase
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:30 PM
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ok..that's happening when I rev it in neutral so I expect it to do the same under load...guess its not the afpr
*sigh*

maybe it is exhaust leak, flexpipe is busted and I believe its leaking between the manifold and ypipe
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:50 PM
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UPDATE!

got the car back on the road and still suffer from the loss.
I've recently changed 6 of the coilpacks for another set.
Knock sensor & knock sensor harness.all 6 injectors to 290cc DE-K injectors and no new codes.


but I ask this. What are some ways to check a coilpack that's on the way out? With the IGN on and engine off, they all show the same reading with the ohm meter but still worried that 1 might be slightly failing
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Old 10-23-2008, 03:22 PM
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my car had the same prob and it was the rear middle coil pack i forgot how to check it but from what iam reading iam strongly leaning towards 1 out of the 6 coilpacks
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:04 PM
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Do you have a cat on there?( may be clogged)
Check your plugs gap & for signs of fouling or detination.
Man I would disconnect one coil @ a time to see if there is a significant change in performance during idle & under load.
I dont know how old the fuel filter is but I would replace/ bypass that too.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by accordingtou
Do you have a cat on there?( may be clogged)
Check your plugs gap & for signs of fouling or detination.
Man I would disconnect one coil @ a time to see if there is a significant change in performance during idle & under load.
I dont know how old the fuel filter is but I would replace/ bypass that too.

^^listen to the master mechanic disconnect the cat (run open y pipe) get a 95 300zx Fuel Filter get some NGK Iridium IX plugs (or some v-power ones for the time being gap them properly please) and get one rear coil and try it on each cylinder until you find the bad coil
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Old 10-24-2008, 07:08 AM
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ill try swap a rear coil at a time. I already have new vpower plugs,gutted cat and 300zx fuel filter.

I believe when I checked the coilpacks though, they all came in between 1.4-1.7ohms but ill check again
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:23 AM
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get a tune for god sake. ur running bigger injectors, bigger pump and no tune ftl...
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:10 AM
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I sooo thought he had some sort of "tuning" device
3.5 swaps with stock pumps run pig rich....
This thing is seeing low 11's/ high 10's... And I aint talking about 1/4miles.lol
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Old 10-25-2008, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by accordingtou
I sooo thought he had some sort of "tuning" device
3.5 swaps with stock pumps run pig rich....
This thing is seeing low 11's/ high 10's... And I aint talking about 1/4miles.lol
Mine was in the 11's and 12's. I was hoping it'd be lower so I could see more of a gain since supposedly some n/a guys RUN theirs in the 12's. What irritates me is that you have to get a dyno tune to really find out what the motor wants to run at..so I could very well have negligible gains after tuning my A/F to 13.5 from high 11's and 12's.

Actually I take that back here is my original log

but it didnt cause anything like what the OP is experiencing.

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Old 10-25-2008, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by accordingtou
I sooo thought he had some sort of "tuning" device
3.5 swaps with stock pumps run pig rich....
This thing is seeing low 11's/ high 10's... And I aint talking about 1/4miles.lol
he has an afc but not a dyno tune..
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:14 PM
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A dynotune will allow you to see what afr your setu likes...
high 12's low 13's is good for a N/A car.

Originally Posted by chillin014
Mine was in the 11's and 12's. I was hoping it'd be lower so I could see more of a gain since supposedly some n/a guys RUN theirs in the 12's. What irritates me is that you have to get a dyno tune to really find out what the motor wants to run at..so I could very well have negligible gains after tuning my A/F to 13.5 from high 11's and 12's.

Actually I take that back here is my original log

but it didnt cause anything like what the OP is experiencing.
He doesnt need a dyno tune. All he needs is a wideband & some open road.
3rd gear
Partial throttle from 2krpm till redline
4th gear
Wot from 2kish 40mph ish to red line
Otherwise dont post a thred with little to no info on the "setup" & expect a miracle to happen....
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he has an afc but not a dyno tune..
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:34 PM
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dyno tuning is safe compared to running on the street and trying to read ur afr's and watch the road at the same time. but at the same time you will not get the same afr's on the dyno as u will on the street. the car will run a tad bit leaner on the street. this thread goes ftl, the 4th gen 5.5 swap/run ratio is crap..
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VqMoNsTeR
dyno tuning is safe compared to running on the street and trying to read ur afr's and watch the road at the same time. but at the same time you will not get the same afr's on the dyno as u will on the street. the car will run a tad bit leaner on the street. this thread goes ftl, the 4th gen 5.5 swap/run ratio is crap..
Agreed.
Street tuning by yourself without a dataloger is hard.This is why you bring someone along to make the corrections while you drive.
Me & a local member have swaps that run strong(right)
I def understand why sooo many 3.5 swaps are crap.
Its nowhere near plug & play
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:50 PM
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this guy ran faster before the swap lol and im no where near a fan of the 3.0's
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:28 PM
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Well, I unplugged the CPS(REF) sensor today and the car ran WAAAAAAYYYYYY better!
from anywhere in 1st gear, it spun the 20"s over with NO problem.

I have a afpr and 255lph pump and DEK injectors but no afc anymore. Currently unemployed so Dyno will have to hold off for a little.

Im not getting a code for the CPS, but still trying to figure out why it runs sooo much better unplugged. Grapped 2 good sensors today from the junkyard and theyre showing 520ohms. Im going to check the sensor on the car and the harness tomorrow to see if anythings wrong.

Pmohr had told me it might not throw a code but will send the wrong signals to the ECU so, we'll see.

Hopefully its not ignition timing related.

But as stated, the car feel as good now as it did when i 1st got it.
now(ssim, 290cc injectos,afpr,255lph,stock ecu,20"s,2-12" subs)
1st runs(JWT ecu,stock wheels, no subs or any of the above mods)
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Old 12-26-2008, 05:13 AM
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Is the car still running with the cps ref unplugged?
Have you resolved the issue?
 
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^^^ Still unplugged I believe. Car ran 13.5 1/4 at Imp. vs Dom. see 1/4 mile section or DC forum

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Old 12-29-2008, 01:58 AM
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yep, still running with it unplugged...takes a few trys to start it but ill deal with it for now.
I still haven't tried another crank pulley yet to see if that was the problem though
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:53 AM
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Thanks for the quick responses. Dont forget to update us when you have a chance to check the pulley!
 
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