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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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So did he tune and clear all the codes and dynoed yet!!
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 06:13 AM
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So did he tune and clear all the codes and dynoed yet!!
No he didn't, at least not yet....

Car was dropped off to Matt yesterday. The mad scientist is gonna tear apart the timing chain cover, and realign the timing chain correctly for the teeth I skipped. At least he's going to verify that this is the issue first. Then he's gonna have to pull apart the intake manifold and replace the coils and plugs I fried. Ask any racer, any real racer.....whether it's 1 code or 5 codes, a code is a code and needs to be fixed before tuning can commence.
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Old Aug 26, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Deckdout2
No he didn't, at least not yet....

Car was dropped off to Matt yesterday. The mad scientist is gonna tear apart the timing chain cover, and realign the timing chain correctly for the teeth I skipped. At least he's going to verify that this is the issue first. Then he's gonna have to pull apart the intake manifold and replace the coils and plugs I fried. Ask any racer, any real racer.....whether it's 1 code or 5 codes, a code is a code and needs to be fixed before tuning can commence.
So you and the mad scientist are gonna have to rip off the manifold and replace the piston rings you fried?
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Fried Coils....lame excuse...lol
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 02:33 PM
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So you blew the welds on the intake manifold?
Old Aug 27, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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So you blew the welds on the intake manifold?
and the rivets on the floor pan. Diamond plate FTL
Old Aug 28, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Old Aug 29, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Used to be so easy to tune cars, just play with the timing curve and carburetor jetting, adjust one thing at a time until you get your highest trap speed.

All I had to do when I built a really stout .030 over 350 for my Chevelle was to bump the primary jetting up 2 jets and drill 1/8" holes in the primary throttle plates to get more air flow at idle (244 duration at .050 lift, .501 lift and 106 degree centerline). I think I changed the rear accelerator pump squirter too (Holley double pumper).

Now with all the sensors and computers, it is a real pain when you get into a serious n/a build like this one. Hopefully once you get the timing issue taken care of you will start seeing the true potential of your build. If the timing chain didn't jump, look real close at the IVT solenoids. Doesn't take much dirt in them to cause problems.
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Confirmed that the timing chain skipped teeth. We suspect that on initial startup, the timing chain tensioner didn't have any oil pressure behind it, and cause the chain to be loose. We have a feeling this is the root cause of my tuning problems. I surely hope so, that's all I can say.
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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atleast its a step foward. How can oil pressure built up before startup? Turning the crank by hand or is it just something that happens by chance?
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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We turned the crank by hand after assembly, but to my understanding, it is something that you just hope gets enough pressure to put tension on the chain as it starts. Matt says that it should be ok this time around.
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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remove the spark plugs, un plug the fuel injectors, crank the motor over until you have oil pressure....
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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remove the spark plugs, un plug the fuel injectors, crank the motor over until you have oil pressure....
Then there's that. Thanks for the headsup!
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Deckdout2
Confirmed that the timing chain skipped teeth. We suspect that on initial startup, the timing chain tensioner didn't have any oil pressure behind it, and cause the chain to be loose. We have a feeling this is the root cause of my tuning problems. I surely hope so, that's all I can say.
See...I told ya . Can't wait til u get this thing right
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gt20ir
remove the spark plugs, un plug the fuel injectors, crank the motor over until you have oil pressure....
I was told to do the same thing
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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Why not just soak the tenioner and prime it in oil
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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Once you pull the pin the chain will be tight
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Hopefully that was the issue.
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great you found this P...any timeframe when itll be all back together? I know Matt's a pretty busy guy...
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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I was quote a couple of weeks, but it just all depends on timing and family life, which I completely understand. I'd like to go over there and help him out this week, but we shall see.
Old Aug 31, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Good to hear! Can't wait to see the results!
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any update?
Old Sep 8, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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My crappy run from July.


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Typical Civic driver in the other lane.

Look in your driver side mirror at 0:52

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My crappy run from July.


they let you roll with shorts, they wont let us here in fl
Old Sep 9, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Typical Civic driver in the other lane.

Look in your driver side mirror at 0:52
LOL, how I didn't notice that before I don't even know. I think I was looking at the rearview mirror. LOL

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they let you roll with shorts, they wont let us here in fl
Really? None of the tracks we've been to up here have had any code unless you run faster then xx.xx times. (track specific) I'm sure at that point you'll not only need a helmet but proper clothing as well.
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My crappy run from July.

quarter mile?
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quarter mile?
Are you serious?
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lol.... something tells me he is.
Old Sep 18, 2010 | 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Deckdout2
Confirmed that the timing chain skipped teeth. We suspect that on initial startup, the timing chain tensioner didn't have any oil pressure behind it, and cause the chain to be loose. We have a feeling this is the root cause of my tuning problems. I surely hope so, that's all I can say.
So you went back a teeth or two? I need to check this as well my car is throwing the same code since i put in my cams.
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:44 AM
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SO is it true that you are going with Uprev now?
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how is the compression?? being a tooth or 2 off hopefully did not touch the valves
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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SO is it true that you are going with Uprev now?
I had very high hopes to go this route, but the development at the moment is just not there. It's more complicated then one would think, and the thought of running 2 ecu's is not that appealing to me. So until there is a much simpler fix as in someone making this work, then I will retain the Utec for now. Once I get this thing back on the road, I'm hoping that it will be somewhat of a beast anyway.

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how is the compression?? being a tooth or 2 off hopefully did not touch the valves
Have not checked the compression. Will check it when it all gets put back together. We don't suspect that anything was damaged by being off 1 tooth.

Just a slight update. The chain has been aligned properly, and the proper procedures to get the tension pressurized has been completed. The timing chain covers will be cleaned and installed back on tomorrow. Should be cranking it back up soon here.
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05 ecu & harness will allow you to use uprev.

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