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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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aftermarker sucks compared to bose

I installed a sony cdx-m850mp using the factory bose speakers and subs and the sound quality is considerably worse. It sounds decent but not as good as my bose hu. Also, once I attached my aftermarket hu, the volume got messed up. The lowest volume i could have (1) is still loud and the speakers seem like they're gonna blow at like 8. The max this unit can go is like 40. So im wondering wats wrong. I used a converter that matches the car also and crimped and taped the wires up. Is it just that it isn't compatible with bose? i dunno, any help would be great. Thanks.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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change out the bose speakers if you're gonna use aftermarket hu.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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agreed.

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:55 PM
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is it because of the ohms on the speakers?
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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my bose system sounds damn good though. Will my aftermarket setup sound just as good with lets say average speakers under 250 for all 4? ALso, will my bose subs work well with aftermarket speakers?
Old Aug 13, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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Bose = good? Are you serious? You must not listen to music all that much, the bose in the Maxima is horrendous compared to good aftermarket stuff. Anyway, yeah, remove the Bose speakers, that's key in getting good sound.
Old Aug 13, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Bose = good? Are you serious? You must not listen to music all that much, the bose in the Maxima is horrendous compared to good aftermarket stuff. Anyway, yeah, remove the Bose speakers, that's key in getting good sound.

No highs, No lows, it must be Blose.

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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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just remmember when you swap put your old Bose speakers to bypass each Bose amp!

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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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If you want to integrate into the Blose system, you should be using an adapter. If you just wired it up to the harness it will have all kinds of problems with pops and hiss and mismatched volume levels. First off, of all the radios to replace the factory one with, Sony is one of the worst sounding radios on the market. You really need to change all the speakers, and it would be best to run an amp to them to get better sound than the Bose. The Bose subs should also be done away with for an aftermarket replacement, just for less problems, and ease of wiring. It really sounds like you jumped in to putting the radio in without consulting anyone that could have pointed you in the right direction. Have the courage to ask all the questions to a qualified (not Best Buy or Circuit City) salesman, and you won't have these issues next time. Do it once and do it right.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by Pearl96Max



No highs, No lows, it must be Blose.

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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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Yea, i just crimped the wires from the hu to the wiring harness. Where can i get the adapter, theres a lot of hissing in the background, even when my volume is very low.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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You should be able to get the adapter at any car stereo shop. The ones I usually use are from Peripheral or Soundgate. Just call around and ask.
Old Aug 14, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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First of all, don't buy Sony. Second of all, purchase the PAC ROEM-NIS2 from www.affsave.com and use the stock bose amp or completely change out the mids and highs.
Old Aug 15, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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You'd be best off to just take out everything that says "Bose" on it -- head unit, amps, speakers -- and go with a good head unit, amps and speakers.

I have a harness in my Maxima and it sounded great for about 2 years. Now all four speakers and/or amps are crapped out. I have an Alpine head unit and the HU and harness were installed by someone I know personally that's a top-notch install guy at a major stereo shop.

but, to each his or her own...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Red92MaxSE
[B]You'd be best off to just take out everything that says "Bose" on it -- head unit, amps, speakers -- and go with a good head unit, amps and speakers.


Old Aug 16, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by maximamaybe
First of all, don't buy Sony. Second of all, purchase the PAC ROEM-NIS2 from www.affsave.com and use the stock bose amp or completely change out the mids and highs.
Agreed, Sony = and lots of people don't realize that just because they are a well known company that make lots of good stuff, that their mobile division licks. As nice as it seems, it will eventually break.
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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Either I am the only one to have purcahsed a flawles Sony HU or many on this forum are unaware of how to connect and set the levels for a head unit.
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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I had a Sony Mobile ES HU (It was better than most of the stuff they make now) before they went to that explode crap. It was a decent deck, but not spectacular. I didn't have any problems with it. The sound quality and clarity coming out of my current Alpine is much better. I also had a Rockford Fosgate cheapo MP3 player (RFX9000) in my Pathfinder and I though it was better than the sony equivalent.

Everyone has their own preferences, I guess. My dad is happy as can be with his $99 CD player. ("Better than tapes," he says)
Old Aug 16, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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I agree with Red92MaxSE. Back in the day a lot of sound competition competitors used the Sony ES line of headunits. I previously owned an ES head with an external sony equilizer with 21 bands of adjustment and it sounded better than a lot of my friend's pioneers and alpines. I purchased an explode unit recently and was not very happy with it. So I switched to a pioneer. Good luck with the head unit install. With the right converter and all the smart people on this board, you should have no problem getting your unit installed. Your sony may not be the worst choice, since the factory bose system is not the cleanest in the first place.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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i too agree that sony's mobile electronics are not great. i have no problems with sony on other products. i have 3 vaio computers and 2 sony lcds and have loved them. i have a lot of sony electronics but i would not and will not ever buy any car stereo equip from them. i have heard them in others cars and imo sony xplode is not up to par with what i put in my car. their stereos even looks like ****.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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yeah the whole "xplod" revolution was more like sony taking a dive in the poopy pool.
Old Aug 17, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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A lot of the time you get what you pay for. Xplod is for the budget minded. Most of the people who have trouble with the stuff would have as much or more trouble with a HU costing twice as much. A little education and experience can go a long way.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 04:04 AM
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A lot of the time you get what you pay for. Xplod is for the budget minded. Most of the people who have trouble with the stuff would have as much or more trouble with a HU costing twice as much. A little education and experience can go a long way.
The dive in the poopy pool was pointed towards build quality. Though you make a good point about people's experience having to do with how long before they screw up and blow their stuff, Sony in the past built car stereo equipment that was just as good as any of the other major brands, but has since (xplod) suffered on quality (and focused more on appearance) (COOL DECK!) Would hate to wear the uncomfortable cheap shoes when I can pay a little more for better ones, or even look around a little harder for another deck that is of higher quality. I know quite a few people who have blown sony xplod products. The sad thing is that it's nothing specific, just pretty much anything xplod in general, subs, decks, amps, even blown crossovers (yep that happens too).
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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A coworker had a Sony MEX-5DI. All show, no go. He eventually switched to a Pioneer DEH-8500MP (half the price as the Sony, mind you) and his exact words, "Dude, you won't believe the difference. And the feature set is so much better." I concur.
Old Aug 18, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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Most of the aftermarket has lowered the quality in favor of a greater list of features. Useless features. Sony reported that they would soon start produceing high quality stuff again in very limited quantities. As in building the product after the order is received. This stuff will likely be well beyond the priceing point of over 99.9% of the population. Their capital is invested in makeing profit, therefore the low quality stuff we see in the stores. But they still have great engineers designing unbelievable stuff. They indicated that they have TV's in labs that are several years old and produce much better picture quality than anything on the market. It's just too expensive for a store that needs display models of everything. Sony has always been able to produce great products. But they always make it too prohibitive for the rest of the market to license the technology. Remember Beta, SACD, etc? Great stuff that Sony markets in a way that does not work in this country. Bottom line in the USA is money and the Britney marketing scheme. People want the big SUV with 24 inch wheels. But their neighbors wonder why it never leaves the driveway, the tank is probably empty. All flash and no go. Remember the line, "I didn't inhale!"?
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