boxster02

I need a good 1000 watt (500x2) amp to power my 2 cerwin vegas in a sealed box, i dont have much cash to spend...Are those american legacy, pyramid, lanzar, and crunch amps any good (on ebay)? DO you know of any other good amps for cheap that will sound good? I need one that is cheap, yet puts out good sound. I do not want it to somehow ruin my expensive subs... So are these any good or can i buy like a 2 year old rockford fosgate one? It would be quality but not brand new. Anyone know where to buy used amps, ebay dont have many....

Thanx
Jordan

boxster02

some please help me out!

Thanx

CharlieT

[QUOTE]Originally posted by boxster02
Are those american legacy, pyramid, lanzar, and crunch amps any good (on ebay)?

In my opinion and experiences, those amps are reallllllyy suckkkk!. Their power are underrated.
If you have expensive amps then I suggest invest in some good amp to power those heavy sub of your. Otherwise, you'll have to spend more more on new amp and possible new sub in the late future. RF is good.Orion is expensive but they are high in power. Phoenix Gold is also good but way too expensive. Ask around some more.

Crunch are good for 4 channels but a friend of mine had some bad experience with it so we really don't like them.
Invest wisely will benefit you greatly.!!

boxster02

Charlie T- i really appreciate you responding. Yea i was not to sure about the cheaper amps, one amp said it was 1000 watts, yes it was 2 channel and only 200 watts per channel, wtf? Yeah thanx again.....any other input would alos be appreciated.

THe subs say..
* power range: 63-300 watts RMS each
* peak power: 600 watts

So that means that if i get a good 1000 watt amp, 500x2, then there will be 500 watts going into each sub rite? So therefore it will not blow the sub of be to much power for it, right? Thanx alot, im new to this stuff

PrinzII

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Other brands you should check out are JBL, DEI, JL Audio, Precision Power, Soundstream, Earthquake, US Amps. Most of those in the list are good and inexpensive.

Dustyroads

Okay, you say you want a 100Watt amp and you want it cheap. Define cheap. What is your price range? Are you thinking $500 or more like $250? What load are your subs? Are they 4ohm or 8ohm? Are they DVC or SVC? I need to know these so I can find the amp that has the correct load restrictions. More info please and I'll try and help you.

boxster02

thanx dusty, here are the specs

- they are dvc (dual voice coil)
- 4 ohm
- power range: 63-300 watts RMS each
- peak power: 600 watts

cheap yeah like 400 something like that

thanx

Dustyroads

Alright boxster here is what I have found. Although I am of the mind that you should always bridge your sub amp, with the subs that you have, this really isn' going to be an option. I would wire each one of the voice coils in parallel and that would yield a 2ohm load for each sub. Then you go out and buy yourself a Rockford Fosgate Power 800.2. Take a look at http://www.carmedia1.com/. I have bought an amp from them before and it turned out okay. I would suggest however calling ahead of time to make sure they have what you want in stock. The price for the 800.2 is a little bit more than you wanted, but it's close, $439.00. RF is a good company and they make quality stuff. I would have to say that it is your best bet, or if you want to take a chance, you can buy fromt he guy selling that Xtant amps in the for sale section. That thing will do you up real nice as well. Either way good luck!!

boxster02

thanx dusty, 2 more questions...

1) will underpowering the subs (400 watts each when their peak is 600) ruin the subs or make them sound bad?

2) If i got the rf 1000.2, would it be worth paying the extra 250$ overr the 800.2? Will the 1000.2 hit alot harder, with 100 more watts per sub, to be worth the 250$ more?

Thanx

khrfadz

1) underpowering the subs is better cuz u dont want to take it to the max. my jl w6's were i think 500 and i ran around 600 and eventually blowing it.

2) not worth it in my opnion cuz if u do the wiring described in 800a2 manual u can pull 960 watts as what i did. it wont hit harder the only way it will hit harder is if u increase the base level.

thats my .02 cents

CanuckAMP

Those are peak numbers though. You should be only concerned with RMS power numbers. So your subs take 300Wrms each or so. The cheapest route will be to find a Class D amp that will supply the 600Wrms you will need at a 2 Ohm load. I'd look into the DEI 1100D or Memphis ST-1000D.

Both will hit you with a $400 pricetag though at your local dealer. You might be able to find them online used for around $300 or so. Another option is an amplifier like an Orion XTR400 bridged down to 2 Ohms mono it should put out about 600Wrms. I've tried one that low before and though not recommended by Orion it still ran cool. These generally go for around $225 or so on Ebay and other sites.

Dustyroads

Under powering the subs would be giving them less than the 300Watts RMS that they list. Giving them 400W would technically be over powering them, but not too seriously.

2) I don't think the increase in bass would justify the extra $250. In order to increase overall bass response by 3dB, you need to either double the power or double the cone area. Since you will still have the same subs increasing the power by 100W a sub will give you some increase in output, but not a lot.

A comment to khrfadz: Giving the W6's 600Watts should not have caused them to blow. I was wondering if you had them in a factory speced box or not? The subs just could have been bad, but JL makes their subs so you can give them as much power as you want and they will be able to handle it. What kind of a setup were you running? Where were the gains set on your amp? I'm just wondering what would cause those things to blow. A friend of mine had 2 W6's running on a pair of MRV-1000's a few years back and they worked just fine and for quite a while might I add.

I also would give some thought to what Canuck had to say. 600W would also suit you just fine, trust me. I had a single 10 in the back of my old car with about 150-200Watts going to it and at times it was too loud. Good luck!!