Where should I have them put my x-overs?
03-12-2008, 07:10 PM
#1
Where should I have them put my x-overs?
I'm having a set of components and an amp installed at a shop here in town and wanted to know where I should have them install my x-overs.
From my understanding, they usually go in the doors, but there are more ideal places. The shop tells me that the install price will go up as the location changes, but if I have to pay a few extra clams for the best spot, then I guess it'll be so.
So where do you guys like them? Is there an ideal place? In the trunk, under the passenger seat, in the stock kick panels (in a 4th gen) or somewhere else? Which would be the most expensive locale and the least? Is there a best of both worlds? Kick panel maybe?
Oh and in correlation to the install, I was wanting them to use 12 gauge speaker wire. I think they may have mentioned that using 16 would do just fine and there would be an extra install charge because of the increased difficulty of using a larger wire. Is that a load of exaggerated dung or is there really a huge diff between the 12 & 16 that would make it a harder install? Anyway
Thanks for your help.
& a side note: I was going to get my own amp kit and have them use that, but they jack you again if you don't use their stuff.
Oh, and if you say "just do it yourself" I'll kill you!
From my understanding, they usually go in the doors, but there are more ideal places. The shop tells me that the install price will go up as the location changes, but if I have to pay a few extra clams for the best spot, then I guess it'll be so.
So where do you guys like them? Is there an ideal place? In the trunk, under the passenger seat, in the stock kick panels (in a 4th gen) or somewhere else? Which would be the most expensive locale and the least? Is there a best of both worlds? Kick panel maybe?
Oh and in correlation to the install, I was wanting them to use 12 gauge speaker wire. I think they may have mentioned that using 16 would do just fine and there would be an extra install charge because of the increased difficulty of using a larger wire. Is that a load of exaggerated dung or is there really a huge diff between the 12 & 16 that would make it a harder install? Anyway
Thanks for your help.
& a side note: I was going to get my own amp kit and have them use that, but they jack you again if you don't use their stuff.
Oh, and if you say "just do it yourself" I'll kill you!
03-12-2008, 07:37 PM
#3
03-12-2008, 07:59 PM
#5
And...no validity to charging more for the placement? I was wondering about that. I also wonder if it's the same with going with 12 gauge instead of 16 too?
03-12-2008, 08:10 PM
#7
And...no validity to charging more for the placement? I was wondering about that. I also wonder if it's the same with going with 12 gauge instead of 16 too?[/QUOTE]
Don't know about that, but I can see why they would. It is a little bit thicker than 16 guage wire. Possibly a little harder to manipulate.
[/QUOTE]Don't know about that, but I can see why they would. It is a little bit thicker than 16 guage wire. Possibly a little harder to manipulate.
03-12-2008, 08:32 PM
#11
And Yup, I'm gonna try the kick panels. Curious about under the seat though. Are they protected enough? Big gulp disasters, rain or since I'll be moving up north soon, melting snow pack on the floor board gonna be a problem for them?
03-12-2008, 09:10 PM
#13
Aye. Very good then.
So.......in summation
Crossovers in the kicks or under the seat (and scrap the trunk idea)
Charging me more to put the crossovers anywhere else other than the door is absurd. (I wonder how I can haggle with them on that? What is it that makes them think that it's worth an extra charge?)
16 gauge speaker wire is just fine and will be no less effective than the 12 gauge so roll with that especially if they try to take me to jam city.
And lastly, go with no less than 4 gauge power wire. (Any other gauge suitable?). I'll be curious to know if they charge me more for the install of 4 awg power wire too.
Anyway...thank you very much for your inputs so far gentlemen. Much obliged.
So.......in summation
Crossovers in the kicks or under the seat (and scrap the trunk idea)
Charging me more to put the crossovers anywhere else other than the door is absurd. (I wonder how I can haggle with them on that? What is it that makes them think that it's worth an extra charge?)
16 gauge speaker wire is just fine and will be no less effective than the 12 gauge so roll with that especially if they try to take me to jam city.
And lastly, go with no less than 4 gauge power wire. (Any other gauge suitable?). I'll be curious to know if they charge me more for the install of 4 awg power wire too.
Anyway...thank you very much for your inputs so far gentlemen. Much obliged.
03-13-2008, 06:24 AM
#15
03-13-2008, 01:31 PM
#16
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I put mine in behind my heater controls underneath - I have 4 there, and they fit in perfectly.
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Your cheapest place and easiest will be in the doors though. Otherwise tucked up in the dash if they are properly placed..
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Your cheapest place and easiest will be in the doors though. Otherwise tucked up in the dash if they are properly placed..
03-13-2008, 02:41 PM
#17
Wow, I didn't think there was that much room behind the heater controls for all 4 of them to fit. What kind are they?? R they kinda small or is there just that much room in there?
03-13-2008, 06:05 PM
#18
So what do you say Josh, think they will fit behind the controls in a 4th Gen too?
03-13-2008, 07:29 PM
#19
Wow, good idea. I'm getting my HU installed soon, and now I'm thinking about putting my IPOD adapter behind the heater controls too. If it'll fit.
03-13-2008, 07:56 PM
#20
It'll fit just fine. Just make sure that it's fairly secure and not swimming around back there. The dingleberry's at C.C just tossed it back there and the connection came loose after a while of bombing around town.
03-13-2008, 08:56 PM
#22
Yup, as i have learned the hard way. Some CC shops do have guys who give a damn and have pride in what they're doing but they don't seem to last long as they move on to more rewarding and appreciative gigs. I thought they had some decent guys when I went there, but I guess I caught the 3rd string team that day or something.
03-14-2008, 05:19 PM
#25
Yup, as i have learned the hard way. Some CC shops do have guys who give a damn and have pride in what they're doing but they don't seem to last long as they move on to more rewarding and appreciative gigs. I thought they had some decent guys when I went there, but I guess I caught the 3rd string team that day or something.
03-18-2008, 09:48 AM
#26
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Is there a tweeter near you ?
I will go there before circuit city. Also dont be scared to put it where you want to put it! It is your car and your money! Do it right the first time. I like mine next to my amp so if there is a problem I can go to one place to check it out!
I will go there before circuit city. Also dont be scared to put it where you want to put it! It is your car and your money! Do it right the first time. I like mine next to my amp so if there is a problem I can go to one place to check it out!
03-22-2008, 01:32 PM
#27
Is there a tweeter near you ?
I will go there before circuit city. Also dont be scared to put it where you want to put it! It is your car and your money! Do it right the first time. I like mine next to my amp so if there is a problem I can go to one place to check it out!
I will go there before circuit city. Also dont be scared to put it where you want to put it! It is your car and your money! Do it right the first time. I like mine next to my amp so if there is a problem I can go to one place to check it out!
Curious though, where's your amp? In the trunk or under your seat?
03-24-2008, 12:03 PM
#28
Finally getting those puppies in . Let us know what you think of em. The x-over's are pretty small so they can be tucked just about anywhere.
As far as under the seat installs and electronics. I've had my amps under the seats for a while now. Go the mountains when it snows, and have kids that eat in there as well. Never had any issues.
. Let us know what you think of em. The x-over's are pretty small so they can be tucked just about anywhere.As far as under the seat installs and electronics. I've had my amps under the seats for a while now. Go the mountains when it snows, and have kids that eat in there as well. Never had any issues.
03-24-2008, 08:13 PM
#29
Finally getting those puppies in . Let us know what you think of em. The x-over's are pretty small so they can be tucked just about anywhere.
As far as under the seat installs and electronics. I've had my amps under the seats for a while now. Go the mountains when it snows, and have kids that eat in there as well. Never had any issues.
. Let us know what you think of em. The x-over's are pretty small so they can be tucked just about anywhere.As far as under the seat installs and electronics. I've had my amps under the seats for a while now. Go the mountains when it snows, and have kids that eat in there as well. Never had any issues.
I am finding it hard to locate a shop or installer I feel comfortable with though, so it still might take a bit longer. *****. You'd think in a town this size, It'd be a can of corn, but every place I've been to so far, they've wanted to pimp my ride. Last quote this past weekend was for over a grand. Savages. Honestly, I'm finally getting to the point where I might tackle this myself. I just don't want to frick anything up, hence my tulip-like approach to this whole deal, but maybe I should just DO IT MYSELF. Fawk
Anyway..enough of my rambling about, how are yours sounding now that you've passed your 10 hour break in period? Big diff between then and now? Must be awesome.
oh and if I can ask you a quickie, did you put your gear under your seat in your 4th Gen or just your 5th? Reason I ask is cause I've heard that the 5th has a little bit more room and wonder if an amp under a 4th Gen seat will fly.
03-25-2008, 12:09 AM
#30
I am very happy with my set. It was just the sound I was after, very smooth. The sound seemed to have fattened up a bit after they were broken in.
I have my amps under the seat on my 5th gen, in the 4th they were in the trunk.
I have my amps under the seat on my 5th gen, in the 4th they were in the trunk.
03-25-2008, 12:37 AM
#32
Yeah buddy! I'm in the process now and as soon as they're in, I'll give you my pre and post break in impressions. Man, I can't wait.
I am finding it hard to locate a shop or installer I feel comfortable with though, so it still might take a bit longer. *****. You'd think in a town this size, It'd be a can of corn, but every place I've been to so far, they've wanted to pimp my ride. Last quote this past weekend was for over a grand. Savages. Honestly, I'm finally getting to the point where I might tackle this myself. I just don't want to frick anything up, hence my tulip-like approach to this whole deal, but maybe I should just DO IT MYSELF. Fawk
I am finding it hard to locate a shop or installer I feel comfortable with though, so it still might take a bit longer. *****. You'd think in a town this size, It'd be a can of corn, but every place I've been to so far, they've wanted to pimp my ride. Last quote this past weekend was for over a grand. Savages. Honestly, I'm finally getting to the point where I might tackle this myself. I just don't want to frick anything up, hence my tulip-like approach to this whole deal, but maybe I should just DO IT MYSELF. Fawk
You'll likely get what you pay for there though...i.e. it won't be the bargain shop.
03-29-2008, 08:09 PM
#33
I did take the stock kick panels off and it seems that it might be just a little to small to jam my crossovers in there so it looks like either in the trunk or under the seat (still exploring that.
kpr10is what do you think?
03-29-2008, 10:03 PM
#37
Just haven't been feelin' it. Not that they've rubbed me the wrong way or anything, but I want a more personable, unbiased and helpful learning experience. I also want a quality install. Someday, I'd love to be able to do all this fun stuff by myself, but right now I don't dare. I also don't have the time. Seems that with these cats I won't learn a dogone thing and have to trust that they give a crap about me and my stuff. So far, I haven't been feeling that, just how can we pinch you or uninspired "yeah we can do this for this amount" jive. Bottom line is that I want to find someone that I can learn from, have a good experience with and most importantly have do a good job.
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