5 speed: no use for clutch
#41
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Basically, yes. When you put pressure on the lever after lifting off the gas, you'll feel when the transmission ready to shift. It helps if you know what rpm the car will go to in the next gear, that's the time that you have to complete the shift. Get below that and the shift won't happen.
Basically, yes. When you put pressure on the lever after lifting off the gas, you'll feel when the transmission ready to shift. It helps if you know what rpm the car will go to in the next gear, that's the time that you have to complete the shift. Get below that and the shift won't happen.
#42
Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
english please!!
english please!!
#43
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Okay, take a 3-4 upshift. You're in 3rd and lightly accelerating to about 35 mph. When you shift to 4th, the rpm will be about 1500 at this speed. After letting off the gas, you will be able to slide the lever out gear and into neutral. Approaching 1500 rpm is when you will be able to slide it into 4th. That is when the input and output shaft speeds will be similar. Trying to force it too soon will result in grinding. If you wait too long and the rpm drops too far, the same thing will occur. Hence, you missed your window and need to start over. Does this make more sense?
Okay, take a 3-4 upshift. You're in 3rd and lightly accelerating to about 35 mph. When you shift to 4th, the rpm will be about 1500 at this speed. After letting off the gas, you will be able to slide the lever out gear and into neutral. Approaching 1500 rpm is when you will be able to slide it into 4th. That is when the input and output shaft speeds will be similar. Trying to force it too soon will result in grinding. If you wait too long and the rpm drops too far, the same thing will occur. Hence, you missed your window and need to start over. Does this make more sense?
wait so this means that I can slip into neutral at any time, but i have to watch when i put it into the next gear right? what about downshifting?
#44
ok I tried this on the 3-4 shift like Sprintmax said. the first time it went flawlesly. the second, I gound the gear. then I could pull it out of third, but it would not go into 4th for anything. this is very possible and easy with practice.
#45
Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
FO SHO BROTHA!! thanks!!
wait so this means that I can slip into neutral at any time, but i have to watch when i put it into the next gear right? what about downshifting?
FO SHO BROTHA!! thanks!!
wait so this means that I can slip into neutral at any time, but i have to watch when i put it into the next gear right? what about downshifting?
To down shift you would have to raise the RPMs while the car is in nuetral before you slid the lever into gear. For example - If second gear at 30 MPH is 4000 rpm, then if you were travling 30 mph you would hold the RPMs at 4000 then slide into second.
IMHO this is a useless trick that can cause excesive wear or damage to the transmission if not done perfectly.
Originally posted by SprintMax
i only do it to impress the ladies
me: question.. do you need to use the clutch to shift?
A)
her: of course you do..
me: oh yeah.. watch this
i only do it to impress the ladies
me: question.. do you need to use the clutch to shift?
A)
her: of course you do..
me: oh yeah.. watch this
#46
and we all know premature *anything* is not a good thing.
My question is why would you want to do this. For daily driving is it really that much trouble to use the clutch. During a race the rev inbetween shifts gives you a good advantage. Cost to benefit is not really weighing in favor of trying to master this.
But yes I have seen this done before to, but on old beaters, tell your friend with the M5 to be carefull, thats an awesome car.
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Originally posted by SamMan23
It's really easy on the 2002 6-speed when driving it hard. You have to be quick though. The dealer salesman showed me.
It's really easy on the 2002 6-speed when driving it hard. You have to be quick though. The dealer salesman showed me.
#49
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
I've been shifting my Yamaha with no clutch for 51K miles. No problems with the gear box yet. And thats high miles for a bike.
I've been shifting my Yamaha with no clutch for 51K miles. No problems with the gear box yet. And thats high miles for a bike.
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