I just got my Hornet 2 way alarm installed at Don aka Pearl96Max's house today and I have to say I am very impressed! This thing is GREAT!. From what I know this alarm is very similar to the Viper 790 Responder alarm. This thing has ALOT of great features. Besides all the normal things you'd expect from an alarm this can also show the temperature inside the car and be set to automatically start the car if it drops below a certain temperature! I can also set the alarm to start 24 hours after I hit a button. This alarm also has GREAT range. The pager itself is smaller than the Viper pager and the alarm is cheaper too. The install was very neat and thorough as usual and everyone that knows Don knows all his work is. If you are considering a 2 way alarm this is DEFINITELY an alarm to concider, especially if you can't afford the Viper 790. I think Don's gonna be offering this alarm for $50-100 less than the Viper 790 as part of a group deal. This alarm in my opinion is a GREAT alarm especially for the price. Thanks again Don!

Btw, I'm 5-speed and I do have remote start also. It was very easy to setup once Don had installed the alarm for me. Don told me what I needed to do and when I got home I did the additional step to allow the remote start to work and it worked great. Anyone can do it. It only takes about two minutes to do.

 

 

That's great news. Quick question...you only get one remote, right? Any idea how much an additional remote costs?

Thanks.

 

good deal man, i'll be getting a clifford matrix alarm and remote start purdy soon.

 

I'm glad you asked that. I forgot to mention this alarm comes with 2 remotes. You get one pager and one regular remote.

 

Also the pager shows the time, the temperature inside the car and has an alarm clock.

 

Don is the best in the east

 

hmmm...i wonder who den is the best in the west...hmmm....

 

i dont know if u mentioned this but one of the best and rare features i saw on this alarm that i have never saw before is that it has a dam count down to when u did remote start. for example if u set it to 20 minutes for remote start, it will show 20 minutes and count down so u know when your car will cut off...not that important but very different....

why am i ****ed u may ask? i paid 500 for my alarm (Responder 790)which i'm still happy about but insanely confused how this alarm can not only be cheaper but have so many more features.

it does everything my alarm does PLUS so much more, and its cheaper. It has a lifetime warranty like mine, remote start, same sensors, freaking tells temperature, u can set a scedule for remote start to come on, antenna installed on the car takes up less space, i see no advantage of the 790 on this one except the name....

for the features, i have to agree with chris, it doesnt get better than this....dam...and chris MIGHT be faster than me now dam conversion!!!!!

 

here is my remote and chris's remote (mine on the left)

as u can see his comes with more features, some not even shown on the remote...

and give it up to don for touching remote before cleaning his hands

 

I'm in the middle of installing a Clifford Matrix on my girlfriend's Integra right now. Hopefully I'll be done tomorrow.

 

sweet, how would u say it compares to these?

 

Can't say, it's not totally installed yet. I'll let you know on monday.

 

ok, hey i also emailed u bro... about something else....

 

Daves the best in the west !

--Don

 

Well if Chris's car wasnt so damn dirty !!!!! O except for the trunk lid

--Don

 

I hear theres a way to set the remote start so that if the car is in gear, it wont start...like a safety! Is this true?

Deac

 

yes..

ask delio.. he was one of the first ones to figure this out.. the maxima comes with a neutral switch.. it tells you if the car is in gear or not.. Polo was going to do this on his 5th Gen too

 

Donovan already saw it in action on my car... he is just playin dumb... heeheehee...

Hi D

 

I've heard about this too. I was talking to Don about it yesterday. I can't remember the company that makes it but I'm pretty sure Don could get it if your interested.

 

so whats the secret? i would like this

 

chris call me when u can

 

^

 

Don, I was reading the manual for the alarm today and I found out that the pager can vibrate! I just set it up and it works great. This was the only thing I could think of that the Viper 790 pager had that I don't. Now I feel my alarm is perfect.

 

 

This is what I found on the two alarms, the viper 'seems' to have more, or DEI seems to mention more features... (cut and paste)

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HORNET 554T

The 554T is a 553T with all the features plus a new remote with LCD Display and XHF 2 Ways Technology. The remote not only sends you information about the alarm state, but it also vibrates.
The all-in-one Hornet 554T is just right for someone looking for convenience and security. With this system, the convenience of remote start and the assurance of a protected vehicle are available with the push of a button. Pre-warm your car in the winter, and pre-cool it in the summer with the top-of-the-line Hornet 554T remote start security system.

One 5 Button 2 Way Remote
One 4-button Remotes
Time display on 2 way remote.
Temperature display on 2 way
remote w/auto temp starting.
Anti-grind output.
Tach learn with confirmation.
Auto-restart, safety inputs, pinswitch and toggle switch.
Power doorlock outputs (+/-).
Ignition controlled power
door locks.

Valet mode.
Fuel-injected automatic transmission only.
Pre-ignition, program runtime 12/24 minutes.

Extended range antenna (Quarter mile range).
Now Includes the XHF
2-Way Dipole Antenna.

Doorlock pulse duration (prog. 0.8/3.5 sec).
Horn honk output.
DEI standard 12 pin harness.
Passive lock/not lock.
Channel 2 output.
Domelight output.
Failsafe Starter kill ready (active/passive).
Neutral safety input.
HCRS-3 relay/high capacity relay satellite.
Parking light flash (program constant or pulsing) relay.

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The main difference of the two is that the Viper works off of responder technology (FM) whereas the Hornet is XHF (AM). The difference...The viper has longer range and may respond faster. That is all. This is from my 2003 DEI dealer supplement recieved today.

--Don

 

Thanx, but what about all that ESP stuff like that telephone remote control? Does the hornet come with that, matter of fact how does that work?

 

The "telephone stuff" is whats referred to as Carcom, last I heard it has been discontinued. But it can be used with all ESP DEI alarms, yes the Hornet is ESP.

--Don

 

Sup Del,

Long time no hear from man.... What I want to know is... can 5th Gens even do remote start because of the computer chip key? Do any 5th Gens out there have remote start? I recently got the Viper 790xv but I have'nt installed it yet. I am concerned about getting that starter kill switch in in the car is left in gear and I'm wondering if it will work at all for 5th Gens... Anyone have info on this?

Deac

 

PM Polo.. he has the instructions for a 5th Gen..

what you might have to do is put a spare key in the steering column to make it work.. but check with polo.. he is doing it on his 2k2

 

Deac, yes remote start will work in the 5th gens. As a matter of fact I have done at least 20 of them in the last month or so. What is required is a immobilizor bypass module (DEI p/n 555U) and your "valet" key. The valet key goes into the module and wired up to your remote start and ignition. This basically tricks the car to believe the key is in.

--Don

 

He is? I thought I did that for him 6 mos ago......


--Don

 

wait you are right

its the neutral switch he forgot.. because his mom parked his car in gear and

but he was going to re-do it with the neutral switch to prevent that.

 

Yea thats it....I cant do the neutral switch or the clutch bypass, legal issues

DEI really is no fun.

 

he said he was going to do it but he was being lazy ... i guess he got a reason to do it now

 

^

 

 

man i wish i lived close to don i have the audiovox prestige 996 pager alarm and i have a 5 speed and nobody wants to do remote start for me. the state of florida considers it illegal i hope i can find somebody to get it done for me and hook up all the accessories i want it to control. this alarm is a 7 channel pager alarm so i want to use all of the channels i just want somebody 2 do it for me

 

i think its illegal in the united states period....but i wonder if someone brought up this safe guard, would it still be considered illegal?