hlh0501

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this comin from the video master?

Sprint

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that picture is confusing..

anyway.. i am not saying you should have posted your picture.. because obviously.. kev, ryan.. joa or myself can't post ours

hlh0501

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um, i have posted above and below of my turbo kit, close up and whole system....something you have yet to see of my competitor without actually purchasing it first. unfortunately i can not get a "radiator view" picture... its too close, or i'd show that angle too... i'm sorry i'm not in it all for the money, infact I make almost nothing, I'm more in it for the people gettin the kits - so i dont care if they make their own kit and i dont make a cent, i'll still help them make a good setup or lend a hand anyway i can - ask the creator of this thread for example..

i dont know how else to post pics, im not afraid of that.. just without giving exact inch by inch, cad drawing dimensions of my kit...

i guess to each his own, its just frustrating when people say im all uptight about my stuff... when im not. i've tried to help out people anyway possible, its annoying when people cant ever take that at face value -

Sprint

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no need to get defensive about it.. i just said the picture wasn't clear..




you see that.. thats what a clear picture looks like.. if you want to be a smarta$$ with the CAD comments .. you are barking up the wrong tree.. becaues i don't put up with that ****..

I really don't give a fck who is giving you **** about your kit.. i am not.. so don't bring that **** to me.. treat me the way i treat you.. or i will start treating you the way you are treating me now..

i never called you uptite.. i never said anything about you making money.. all i said was an exhaust picture wasn't clear.. if you got beef with someone else over the way they treat you or talk about you.. address them.. not me

gtr_rider

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gtr_rider

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Can I see a pic of the header area D?

CandiMan

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Was this written on the sales slip knowing that you couldn't post pics or was it a gentlemen agreement. For the life of me I can't understand what's the big secret. Sure someone put time and effort into developing the kit, but our nations defense doesn't rely on it. (you understnad what I'm saying) I've personally seen some turbo kits on FWD V6 that's routed different than this one. Probably similar to one of the other kits that's available from this board but I've yet to see a complete exhaust pic of those kits regardless of comp vid or not.

Sprint

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nigel never told me that i couldn't take pictures of my exhaust and post them.. its kind of as you say it "silent gentlemen's agreement"

on_alert

before i began speaking w/ Hal, I was planning on doing a complete writeup WITH Cad drawings (i am actually a drafter). But now im not going to, so I dont disrespect Hal.

But people, lets not get angry at each other. Lets remeber what this is all about... the cars...

i sound like a hippie...

Cumalittle

rookie...hehe...

gtr_rider

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Can I see the cAD?????? I can keep it in a special place..

Y2KevSE

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Oooooooo......

Nice pictures! Why did you decide to change the way the piping routes to the TB?

JAY25

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That dude aint on freaking rookie he has to know something to do a custom project like that. Good job looking good and no that kit does not look like Hals kit in no way

hlh0501

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woahh no, dont get the wrong impression go for it man!! i'm all for it honestly, in fact - any questions or any way i can help, you know the program, as usual, let me know- im happy to help anyway i can!!

and sprint... what the world, maybe some clearer pictures, the exact same resolution as on_alert's would help so here you go.. this may be shocking to you that i would post such "revealing"? stuff, but just like anyone who has ever asked me to see, they are available: link 1 2 3
that is one of many avail. setups, i of course offer differ turbo setups, intercooler routing setups (reverse this setup) and I even run dif. turbo sizes, from hybrid to straight t4 to a t62 if that is what you want.... depends on consumer want or what would suite them best

gentlemans agreement, tight

gtr: check those pics too, that combined with the vid pic / vid should best answer your q

gtr_rider

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Never seen those pics before, Cool!

Y2KevSE

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Still not clear (too dark).

hlh0501

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more clear than yours.



brightness my friend.

Sprint

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that reminds me.. i need to hack my way back to that secret part of your server to check the oil pan pics

hlh0501

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go for it, nothing on there i wouldnt give if anyone asked.. are you blind to this thread so far ?

i mean if thats your thing though that you have to "hack" for fun? i dunno..

Y2KevSE

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Not really... I have them on my web server and everyone with Nigel's kit has seen the whole setup and most of the install.

By the way... don't give me an attitude. I just stated that the pictures aren't clear because they are too dark.

Sprint

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look who i quoted

Y2KevSE

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hlh0501

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duh , they own it - i hope pfi/nigel allows them to look under their own car, and i am not talking about the pics of above my/your car, everyone in the world can see that of your(isnt a straight up runoff direct from pfi/nigel kit is it?)/nigel/pfi/dafro, how about the underneath/piping pics that i am talking of and posting....? unless i am mistaken, and please, correct me if i am, there are none of those on your site - i have only looked briefly but have yet to see the serious pics from any of nigel/pfi style kit?

sprint: sorry, i did not look close on the quote, i thought you were joking/threatening to hack haha , oops

Cumalittle

rookie not as in knowledge of modding a car...but in how the orgy works...he said it's all about the car when we all knoe wat it's all really about...

Y2KevSE

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I'm talking about all the pictures of the pieces collectively and individually. I have pictures of the placement of all the piping laid out to how the real install would look (just like on_alert's pictures). Above, underneath, side, everything... even down to the minor fitment problems and modifications I made. They are all posted on the site but in a non-public directory.

Here is a blurred out picture of what I'm taking about:


The kit I have is derived from the 4th gen kit.

CandiMan

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There's that gentlemen agreement thingny

hlh0501

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case and point.


i can see the same public pics, of a turbo and intercooler on ebay or turbonetics website... and engine bay from above? pfi's website... granted yours is 5th gen and slightly dif, but that is not pfi's kit anyways, you just said it was "derived" from their 4th gen kit? correct me if wrong please

Y2KevSE

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I just mentioned your pictures were too dark and you went off on a tangent. I never said I was posting clear pictures of the setup besides the ones with the top view.

You said there were no pictures on my site and I said there were... you just can't access it.

Y2KevSE

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Looks like you edited the post.

It's PFI's 4th gen kit modified to fit a 5th gen..... correctly.

Sprint

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hence my hacking comment

Y2KevSE

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Cumalittle

who's kit is that??? appears not to be mandrel bent...hmmm...according to the name of the pix seems like it's pfi/nigel's kit....

Cumalittle

oh how it starts from welcoming a new turbo max to turbo kit war...

Sprint

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ejj

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I haven't really been keeping up with the turbo kits, but why in the world don't you put the pics where everyone can see them?

Shadow

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Afraid of copycats basically. I think that's why they have the gentleman's agreement with Nigel.

ejj

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So if they go to a meet, do they have to leave their hoods closed?

Its not like a turbo kit is rocket science...I don't get what the secrecy (sp?) is about.

Shadow

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Not sure, but I think the only thing they're worried about is the turbo feed pipe off of the exhaust manifold. I'm told that's the most difficult part to design. Everything else is pretty easy. I know at least that's what my turbo guy is telling me. He can do all the intercooler/exhaust pipes no problem, but he'd prefer to not have to do that turbo feed pipe himself and it would be easier if I just bought one somehow.

Without pictures, a shop would have to purchase the kit itself and copy it. With pictures, a good shop can build something close.

Jeff92se

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Probably becuase people spend a few thousand just on getting the pipes located right. Then somone copies the design/idea for 1/2 that. I realize copying designs is a part of business but no need to make it ultra easy for everyone.

hlh0501

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i dont think reproduction is the fear of theirs.. but then again, what do i know?