just wanted to see some times all motor. I trying to make the fastest all motor max its a 4th gen doing 13.87 without ECU or MEVI. I want too know what I have to beat?

 

Neal and Krismax are your compitition. They should post their times in here, I forgot the exact numbers.

 

Your not going to be the fastest NA Max without an ECU and/or MEVI...

Nealoc and Kris are the 2 fastest NA Maximas... both hit high 13's all motor.

 

MEVI will be on in the next week or 2 and im already doing high 13s without either.

 

High 13's with no ECU or MEVI? Interesting...

What mods do you have?

 

MODS
3.5 bottomend with 3.0 (vq30det heads)
JWT cams
UDP
competition clutch flywheel and pressure plate with centerforce dual fric disc
Extrude honed intake manifold
obx headers
stillen catback
CAI
running 245/45/16 toyo ra-1

 

Nobody is really close to Neal...13.4 @ 102. Krismax is running some good times but is still .4 slower.

 

13.4 should be no problem too beat once the mevi and ecu are on, then I need a less restrictive exhaust.

 

I agree the whole key for you is an extended redline. Did you upgrade the valve springs when you did the cams? What redline are you having the ECU set to?

 

I have the vq30det heads and valve springs. Redline I havent decided yet but im thinkin of 7200 or maybe 7500 with the nismo rod bolts

 

Krismax was using an 8000 redline limit and I believe he had stock internals. Of course I think his engine recently blew too.

 

sr20den is the fastest na but he's not a 4th gen.

 

Krismax's engine is blown because oil pump has been showing signs of dieing for about 6-8 months. It has oil in hte coolant and has been leaking fluid for over 1year--well before he got the 8000 redline. He has been needing a new engine for a long time now. He ran 13.8xx at 101.xx with a bad engine and mostlikly a bad VI. With a new engine a working VI, he will be mid to low 13's. If he does more of hte thing he has planned, he has a great chance of hitting 12's.

 

How big of a difference do you expect I can get with ecu and mevi?

 

Since you have cams it will probably be an even bigger difference than i saw but on average i am about .4 to .5 seconds quicker and 4mph faster with mevi and ECU than without.

 

I suspect the MEVI will give you a few more MPH but the VQ30 heads are going to be your Achilles heel. They have smaller intake valves and ports than the VQ35 heads.

My current best NA run is 13.19 @ 107.33 with slicks.

 

I think I will do a higher rpm too cuase I do have the VQ30DET valvesprings

 

I have a set of 3.5 heads im working on to test on my car with no variable cam timing so I can use them in a 4th gen with no wiring mods needed, I have a custom lower manifold ported and modded to fit a 3.0 upper and bolt to 3.5 heads

 

Yeah you can use the VQ30 timing gear with the VQ35 tensioner. Just cap off the top of that tensioner.

 

Im just pluging the extra oil ports at the cam chain tensioners and using all 3.0 chains and gears I have it all figured out just waiting for time to do it

 

This is my slip with drag radials
2.090
5.804
8.896
79.55
11.574
13.823
100.26

My engine is not blown my oil pump is bad and i have a head gasket leak which ive had before the 8000rpm ECU . I will be back next season with a new engine (not a 95-99 engine) and i will take the crown.

It is impressive that you have no ECU or VI . But neal or me have no 3.5 block

 

i still have alot of mods to do yet like ne exhaust (3" off my turbo max) and mevi should be done by the end of next week. BTW this is my girls car, mine is turboed


r/t .422
60' 2.027
330 5.770
1/8 8.906
mph 79.43
1000 11.594
1/4 13.879
mph 99.96

 

Here is my best run on slicks

R/T..... .481
60'..... 1.990
330'... 5.564
1/8.... 8.509
MPH... 83.41
1000'.. 11.059
1/4.... 13.198
MPH... 107.33


I can't find the records of my best street tire run but IIRC it was a 13.50 @106

 

Your car is such a beast 107.33 traps, if i ever got those traps it would be one happy maxima owner.

 

seeing all of these fast NA times make me wanna just do NA tuning and forget about FI. what are your secrets? what have you guys modified, details would be nice.

Tony

 

I WILL be in the 13 second n/a club soon.

 

I think is kick **** that there are so many fast bolt on VQ's these days. Off the top of my head I can think of 5 4th gens on the brink of 13's and another 3 already there. Good stuff guys!

 

wow tilley whats your engines compression

 

which 5 are they?? I can only think of like 3.

 

around 11.5to1 the heads are choking it though

 

holy crap thats high!!!! can you still go fi at this point

 

11.5 to 1 hell no hell blow his motor w FI I dont even think hell be able to spray hard imo

 

I know a few working on 13's.

 

me too.

change that last number to 4. I forgot about you. you lurk too much. lol

 

11.5:1 is not bad. There are people that can build 18.0:1 engines that run pump gas. My brothers 3.1 liter Grand Prix is at about 12.0:1 now on pump gas.

 

I had in mind

Myself
UNCDood
96sleeper
Speedemn? (something like that)
Ceaser
Dave B...if he would ever make a road trip to a faster track

I think anyone of us could do it with the right weather, a fast track, and a great 60'. Who will be the first....

 

VQdriver is another one.

 

IIRC and am not getting him confused with someone else, he isn't modding anymore and doesn't really go to the track much with the maxima anymore.

 

yeah, true. Hope he resumes it and there will be more potential maxes in 13's.

 

His max is his daily driver now. He spends all his money on his 240sx drift machine.