respect123

Announced today, Have we all bought the wrong Car?????

96gle

I want that car so bad now. That thing hauls ***

Sprint

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my car is currently faster that.. i really don't care

costcowholesale

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for those who just brought a maxima yeah! but for me max was the right car and I'll be saying bye bye to it soon

RussMaxManiac

5th gen 5spd higher top speed

respect123

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RussMaxManiac

That means the VQ30 has a stronger top end, meaning highway power. So the VQ35 might win in the 1/4 but on a roll its gonna be hard to say.

mzmtg

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I want one. Make mine a 2003 model, so some bugs will be worked out. Black on black. 3.5SE with 5 spd......cool

Max_Gator

Well, one problem with that idea. Altima has 246 ft. lbs. of torque. Can't know for sure without seeing a dyno but I'd be real surprised if it didn't beat us from a roll.

JUDE

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I would rather wait and see what the new Maxima will be like.

gtr_rider

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where exactly did you get that information from.

respect123

Probally doesnt handle as well..
Or it handles better with that new suspension..
have to wait and see

AznWontonboy

skyline suspension.. never noe...
james

Synki

Looks like its time to drop my max. Oh wait, i WILL be faster then that.

Maybe ill down grade in car and buy me a Alty. hehe.

emax02

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Thats preaty pathetic that it only does 0-60 in 6.3 and has a top speed of only 142. I meen look at a 95 maxima with only 190{70 less HP then the Altima} , it does 0-60 in 6.6 Sec, which is only .3 slower and the top speed is the same. WTF!? Whats up with that? Am I missing something here?

Ch12i5

i'm highly doubtful that this is the new VQ35 only has a top speed of 142...it's probably on a major restriction from the ecu and such. think about it, it's been a long time since nissan has majorly strengthened the design of the VQ.

anyway, i still love maximas though...i just wish i could see the new 6th gen max...even though i still have a 96. =P

Maximus97SE

You are mixing apples and oranges. '95 times are from mags where they do power shifting, and altima times are factory times where they go easier on launches.

Oh, and check your math. It's only 50, not 70.

GarthG

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The 6.3 is only a preliminary number. . . I am sure this will change to something else, probably lower when real car fan get a chance to push it. It is still a new engine, and I doubt that they are pushing it to the extreme.

emax02

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Ok I checked my math, I though the 3.5 VQ had 260 HP? I guess they did not tune the VQ for the Altima as much as the up comming max. BTW the top speed is going to be the same if tested by a mag or Nissan. Ohh yeah one other thing, MT does not do power shifting{clearly stated in the mag}, so you better check your info.

TAGURIT

MAYBYE THE ECU IS WAITING TO BE CRACKED TO GIVE THE FUUL POTENTIAL OF THE VQ. BTW WHERE DID YOU GET THAT TOP SPEED OF THE ALTIMA I STILL CAN'T FIND IT BRO.

******THOSE NUMBERS ARE A BIT SLOWER THEN ACTUAL BECAUSE IT'S NEW AND IT'S A MARKETING SCEHME(SPELLING?)EX: LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 99 COBRA FORD PROMISED THOSE NUMBERS BUT IT DIDN'T LIVE UP TO THEM, I THINK NISSAN IS JUST BEING SAFE WITH THOSE NUMBERS. CAN YOU SAY LAWSUIT

Maximus97SE

You actually believe MT? You're right they don't do power shifting. They also don't use a fifth wheel to take measurements. But seriously, 3.5VQ for Altima is rated at 240hp, and I30 is 260hp. Don't know about the 2002 Max, since there was no announcement yet. My guess is Nissan will skip the 2002 Max, and have the 2003 Max launch in late spring 2002. C'mon, who in the right mind will buy a 2002 Max??

JoesMAX

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youre missin somethin cause 240-190 is 50 lol you got it mixed up with the 260hp maxima lol.... i see what youre saying though that the extra 50 hp should give better figures but then again the 2000 has 32 more hp and 0-60 was 6.7 and the 95 was 6.6 so the 2000 max also should have been quicker with that extra horse..

emax02

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the 2000 has 32 more hp and 0-60 was 6.7 and the 95 was 6.6 so the 2000 max also should have been quicker with that extra horse.. [/B][/QUOTE]

I am still puzzeld over that one too!

voltman

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do you think they got the 3.5 by boring or just by swapping internals in the 3.0?

EZ

I am still puzzeld over that one too! [/B][/QUOTE]

Its all horsepower to weight ratio. Even though new Altima is bigger, there is a chance that it could also be lighter with chassis and body improvements.

I was also wondering, since it will be a de-tuned version of the 260hp engine, can you retune it to make it 260?

EZ

emax02

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Its all horsepower to weight ratio. Even though new Altima is bigger, there is a chance that it could also be lighter with chassis and body improvements.

I was also wondering, since it will be a de-tuned version of the 260hp engine, can you retune it to make it 260?

EZ [/B][/QUOTE]

I know why the 2K max is not faster, it's just silly. About retuning the Alty engine, it is probably just hasdifferent cams,timing etc.

gtr_rider

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check this out guys, 1st & 2nd gen max's had 160 hp, for the 3rd gen max's they added 30hp to the engines. for the 5th gen max the added another 32hp to that same engine. Now in 2002 what would be the obvious gain in horsepower be.

160 to 190=30
190 to 222=32
222 to ?

annimax

I have the same question GTR_rider has. If it is true that's great for the new Altima owners but what do you think nissan is going to do with the Max, make it slower? Change is the name of the game in the auto industry
and it does not always pay to be the first kid on the block with the new toy cause sooner or later somebody is gonna one up you.

ST

Uh..i have replicated the A32 0-60mph and 1/4 mile ET's on both 95' and 97' 5-speeds. Both times had NOTHING whatsoever to do with powershifting, no gains are derived from this on the stock block...AMHIK. These were verified with both GTECH and actual track.

As far as this new Altima goes, well it's an awesome car with awesome specs. Let's hope Nissan doesn't screw up the Maxima branding because of this...

-Old Timer

JoesMAX

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i know someone who works at a nissan dealership and he said the maxima was supposed to get something like 300 hp but then he said that was the one in the Q45 class so maybe they will just bump right up to the V8 without making the 3.5... i thought that they would use the 3.5 in 2003 then like 2 or so years after make it the V8 if thats what theyre gonna do... they either have to get above the altima in hp or go to a higher class and soon... so no doubt that 2003 will have a lot of changes...

JoesMAX

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also when they tested the 4th gen they tested it at like 5600 rpm.. the 5th gen they tested it at like 6400 or somethin like that... so right there they cheated on the hp figures a little... if you tested the 4th gen at 6400 wouldnt it be a little higher than 190 then??

Max_Gator

No. Peak hp is at 5600 rpm in the 4th gen while it is at redline in the 5th gen. HP above 5600 in the 4th gen falls off.

Also, one reason the 5th gen isn't that much faster than the 4th, when it seems it should be (aside from weight) is that in the 5th, you must shift at peak hp rather than being able to shift on the down side to keep rpms in the sweet spot.