I choose 'shut up' and go to another thread where my time is better spent.

 

thats why you get a proud 4th gen driver or two to inspect/observe the race. i've known klown for a while now, and he wouldnt lie about his mods but obviously that means nothing coming from a fellow third gen driver.

maybe one day i'll finish my VE and go out one night looking for 4th gens, bring a video camera and post the results...should be entertaining to say the least.

 

Slammed95(4thgen) beat Aaron92se(3rdgen) in the 1/4 mi.

 

I believe slammed is a 5-speed and Aaron is an auto though.

 

No, he was auto at the time. He beat Aaron by around 1 bumper or 1' I was the only .org member that witnessed the race. It was CLOSE Slammed got a better reaction and had a slightly better 60'-1/8 then it was all Aaron on the top end.

 

Are you really serious with this? I've watched a VQ auto with an intake, y-pipe, and exhaust dyno 151whp/163wtq along with a very short powerband. The next car was a 95 GLE with just a y-pipe. It rolled 168whp/178wtq with a much more significant powerband.

I really don't see how you'd stand a chance.

 

O crap look like im going to have to apologize for my stupid comments. but imho i still think the 3rd gen is a cool car, but I do not think its cooler then the 4th gen, I like the stance of the 3rd gen, but the stock rims just are blah, the 4th gen se rims look dope on it, but ah yeah the 4th gen is like the best out of all the gens with like some combos from the 5th gen. yee


---Ninos

 

Most definetely. My car vs. a 4th gen automagic

 

Aaron is an auto






and doesn't have carbon fiber weight savings, including the non stock engine cover!

 

I concour, and it is quite funny how some of you guys think its easy to turbo a car. If you want to turbo a 3rd gen, you build it yourself, we dont have any kits avaliable like 4th gens do. That has not detered a few members, but klown is not one of them.

 

you know no one will do it just because "its a tarp!"
I'll just see if my Dad wants to play around one of these days, who knows, maybe he'll bite

I wont go into the twisties for his sake though

 

no, definitely not easy to turbo a maxima. finding all the little parts you dont think of is what takes most of the time though.
just got a new credit card so i dont have to wait 3 weeks for my original company to process my payments (in full obviously)....now i really need to decide on a turbo..

 

I guess if you live your life one 1/4 mile at a time then:

but I like a car that's also fun in the twisties myself..

The 3rd Gen was also pretty sharp for it's time...


GO IRS!!!!

 

even though i do like the slanted dash of the 4th-5th gens better in terms of look, 3rd gens dash just feels alot better designwise... more bmw-esque if you will. Ive taken my dash in/out/apart hundreds of times and theres STILL no creaks or rattles

and 3rd gens seats look way better than the 4th gen boxes

 

i see a lot of you guys are taking this the wrong way. there are many reasons for beating somebody ex. bad tranny, poor condition, not really racing etc. here is my reasoning timetable
cars i have owned
1986 max se five speed- the most incredible max i have ever owned. suspension was adj and the best ever. the only thing they had available was the throttlebody at the time. smoked many and all doubters of that era car was a sleeper.
1988 max se-totaled max so got this one thats how much the 86 impressed me. did custom exhaust.
1992 max se-auto- wow what hp and the suspension was nice and tight and handles well with out upgrading suspension. did full custom 3 in exhaust open air filter. car whipped butt top end much more responsive than 4th gen and managed to earn respect from fellow b.m.w 5 series guys.
1996 max se five speed- stock the car didnt respond like my 92 but seemed to have a quicker take off but lower top end. actually raced side by side my 92 and 96 the 92 pulled a little harder upstairs but the 96 would take off quicker. after s/c install forget it the car was a monster.
1997 max se auto- s/c and nitrous set-up full suspension and exhaust. now this is by far the quickest and tightest set up i've owned and i loved it i loved each and everyone so i cant be bias but i can say from the original question that there is no winner unless you own a 2005 which is obviously in a different class alltogether.

 

I bought my 93 VE for $2,350 with only the passenger-side window regulator wrong, everything else works and the body paint still shines. I couldn't be happier. IMHO This discussion shows how passionate we are of our Maxima's

 

i tried this i offered to race 1989Maxman a coupe pages back . he has a 3rd gen VE speed with i belive same mods as me I/E/Y. i got no response. he lived one town over from me.

 

Why are we still posting in this thread

 

3210

 

i'd race you, but i'm a bit more modded than...well everyone that comes to mind in this area..that and my brakes arent exactly complete so i cant drive the car very further than a couple streets from my house (maybe a mile round trip, all residential), i dont like using only the ebrake to stop.

 

why is this thread still going? both cars where great in there time even though i think 3rd gens quality is better than 4th gen. at least the 95/96 anyway. pat we should race one of these days just for the hell of it. hehe.

 

if i get my car moving properly, yes

 

slammed95 car was auto too.. and had less mods than aaron from what i recall..
aaron also took out his pillars out for weight savings..

 

he beat aaron two times.. out of the three that they raced

 

I believe Aaron beat him once, slammed beat him twice. I think, but all their races were neck and neck. BTW: Andy had more mods at the time.

 

I also wanted to throw something in here. Alot of 3rd gen members tend to think the 4th gen handles crappy. It actually handles surprisingly well for having a beam. I am impressed at how it sticks to some turns.

 

It was a hypothetical scenario; meaning it does not matter how hard it actually is to turbo a 3rd gen or how unlikely it is that his VG has a turbo kit.

 

I was looking at the rear beam under a fellow 4G owner's car today and I almost jizzed my pants it was so sexy. IRS gives me the shivers. Therefore, beam > IRS.

 

[bad joke] so does that make you auto-sexual?[/bad joke]

 

That must mean you dont know much about cars and looking at things you dont know about confuse the hell out of you and give you the shivers, look at it a little longer, it all makes sense.

 

adjustably scares people

 

i got bored so i came back, what'd i miss?

 

Nothing. Let's let this thread die. There's nothing more to be said that hasn't been said already. Points have been made, counterpoints have been made, the thread degenerated into crap, so let's let it die.

 

Blah blah blah... Until a 3rd gen goes and gets it's lateral G's and slalom speed measured I'm going by Car and Driver's #'s that show that the 4G outgrips and outslaloms the 3rd gen SE. The question isn't whether or not IRS>Beam. The question is whether or not the 3rd gen outhandles the 4th gen mod for mod, period. No one has brought up any evidence, so I'll go by C&D's tests. And you can't go by the theory that body roll=poor handling. Look at the EVO. It handles with the best of them but looks like it's about to tip over around corners stock.

Superior design in one area doesn't necessarily mean the whole package is better. Case in point, the VE has VTC's and VI stock, yet is still slower than the 4G in the 1/4 mile mod for mod. Why? Because it just so happens to be strapped to a heavier chassis. (Besides, the VQ's extra torque doesn't hurt. )

 

now please STFU.

 

'Twas a joke.

 

Thank you for bringing that up. I am in the very bottom of my 3rd gear when I go through the traps, hence the reason I have a very low trap speed. Most 5 speeds that run 14.5s have a 98mph trap speed almost.

 

Why does it make a freaking difference which is better, the 3rd or 4th? They both do what they are supposed to, so what if the 3rd gen cant hold over a g in a turn or close to one, when was the last time you were driving around and said, humm thats a empty parking lot lets see how many g's i can pull before spinning out. Case in point, is that almost no one here is pushing their maximas to their limits so why does it matter which is better? This thread should be closed its taking up valuble server space that i could be complaining about something else in!!!