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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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Race my Sentra 5spd or how bout a slow 5th gen ?
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Race my Sentra 5spd or how bout a slow 5th gen ?
neither of those are a 3rd gen or 4th gen maxima
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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Race my Sentra 5spd or how bout a slow 5th gen ?
i want to beat your G20
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KLoWnPR109
Kinda hard to see any logic in what you just wrote considering that you have the following kill list on your cardomain.
So i have a kill list on my cardomain, who the hell cares, you damn lame, tryin to burn someone casue they have a kill list. Talking about logic, do you even know what logic is, just casue you cant afford a 4th gen doesnt mean its a bad car.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
So i have a kill list on my cardomain, who the hell cares, you damn lame, tryin to burn someone casue they have a kill list. Talking about logic, do you even know what logic is, just casue you cant afford a 4th gen doesnt mean its a bad car.
For a guy so concerned with being logical, you sure like to jump to conclusions and are very quick to use what you think might be a personal insult when an argument isn't going your way.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
So i have a kill list on my cardomain, who the hell cares, you damn lame, tryin to burn someone casue they have a kill list. Talking about logic, do you even know what logic is, just casue you cant afford a 4th gen doesnt mean its a bad car.
hahahahhahahahahahahahahaha
financial situations have nothing to do with this particular arguement. why would someone waste their time with modding a VE when 4th gens are so cheap nowadays? i guess you have to own one to understand, i'm not sure how else to explain it.

i know for my particular situation i never even considered a 4th gen. i had 2 BMWs previous to my maxima and was in a position where any 4th gen could easily be afforded but i chose the 3rd gen for reasons apparently none of you 4th gen fairies will ever understand (NOTE: not all 4th gen drivers are fairies, just the ones who have a panic attack when a 3rd gen driver says they dont like 4th gens). yes in another post in this thread i stated how i'd like to get a 4th gen, and i do, i want a 95/96SE auto with autoclimate, heated seats and defrosting mirrors..i think it would be an excellent daily driver.

its pretty low when you try to attack someone's financial situation. the fact your panties are in such a wad over something on the internet(and someones opinion at that) humors me more than you could possibly imagine. you and zack342 really make me laugh
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
So i have a kill list on my cardomain, who the hell cares, you damn lame, tryin to burn someone casue they have a kill list. Talking about logic, do you even know what logic is, just casue you cant afford a 4th gen doesnt mean its a bad car.

keep in mind we're having a discussion...don't take the comments personal.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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Hey guys well i had a vacation from maxima.org yesterday because apparently i wasn't mature in this discussion so i am here to apologize, to whoever was offended.

i would also like to add that you 3rd gen guys are right and 3rd gens are the best maximas in the world and no other maximas will ever be able to replace it. i just wish my 99 4th gen could be as awesome as the 3rd gen.....but it will never be.
So because of this is have decided to sell my 4th gen and buy a 3rd gen. i have thought hard about this and even though my 4th gen has been reliable and is fairly quick it will never be as good as a 3rd gen.

i found this 3rd gen online i am thinking of getting, its in the town next to me so i going to try to look at it this weekend. let me know what you guys think.i know it does have some problems but with the help of you all knowing 3rd geners i am hoping to restore it to fully working condition.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=348788

P.S i have also thrown away my Genuine nismo radiator cap because apparetly i am an idiot for thinking it does anything to help the car in anyway.
i feel bad for all the other people who didn't have the pleasure of reading this information and that have bought high pressure radiator caps dispite brand (Blitz,Nismo,Cusco,Greddy,Hks,Mugen,Pivot)

thanks alot guys and glad to be back.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by zack342
Hey guys well i had a vacation from maxima.org yesterday because apparently i wasn't mature in this discussion so i am here to apologize, to whoever was offended.

i would also like to add that you 3rd gen guys are right and 3rd gens are the best maximas in the world and no other maximas will ever be able to replace it. i just wish my 99 4th gen could be as awesome as the 3rd gen.....but it will never be.
So because of this is have decided to sell my 4th gen and buy a 3rd gen. i have thought hard about this and even though my 4th gen has been reliable and is fairly quick it will never be as good as a 3rd gen.

i found this 3rd gen online i am thinking of getting, its in the town next to me so i going to try to look at it this weekend. let me know what you guys think.i know it does have some problems but with the help of you all knowing 3rd geners i am hoping to restore it to fully working condition.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=348788

P.S i have also thrown away my Genuine nismo radiator cap because apparetly i am an idiot for thinking it does anything to help the car in anyway.
i feel bad for all the other people who didn't have the pleasure of reading this information and that have bought high pressure radiator caps dispite brand (Blitz,Nismo,Cusco,Greddy,Hks,Mugen,Pivot)

thanks alot guys and glad to be back.
apparently, you learned nothing from your time off nor have you matured
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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I've seen the light, I'm going to buy this 4-gen
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=342674
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I've seen the light, I'm going to buy this 4-gen
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=342674
yeah that is quite sad, if you were to look in the "dyno discussion" forum you would notice that car is putting down 200WHP too. it is a shame but that helps to make me assured that my choice is the right one. i have pmed Bob92se and hopefully i will be able to look at the car this weekend. is there any other problems that you guys could recommend that i look for other than what he had posted. i know these are the best cars nissan has ever built so i am very certain that it will be as solid as a rock.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by zack342
yeah that is quite sad, if you were to look in the "dyno discussion" forum you would notice that car is putting down 200WHP too.
You aren't making a good case.

Jeff points out that a 4th genner is losing to a 3rd gen which happens to have less mods. Your reply is, oh yeah? well he is putting down 200whp. Good answer

It's hard to believe that you are actually older than me.

And BTW, most people buy radiator caps because they are either chrome or polished aluminum and look much better than the stock one, not because they give you 50 bajillion hp
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
So i have a kill list on my cardomain, who the hell cares, you damn lame, tryin to burn someone casue they have a kill list. Talking about logic, do you even know what logic is, just casue you cant afford a 4th gen doesnt mean its a bad car.
That's a pretty bold statement to make considering you have no idea what my financial situation is, have no clue as to what my car even looks like, and would be seeing my tail lights in any race.

So keep making assumptions when you have no idea what you are talking abot
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by KLoWnPR109
You aren't making a good case.

Jeff points out that a 4th genner is losing to a 3rd gen which happens to have less mods. Your reply is, oh yeah? well he is putting down 200whp. Good answer

It's hard to believe that you are actually older than me.

And BTW, most people buy radiator caps because they are either chrome or polished aluminum and look much better than the stock one, not because they give you 50 bajillion hp
Dude you guys are right that is why i am getting a 3rd gen have you read nothing that i posted. the fact that the car has 200whp and still loses to a 3rd gen convinces me that 3rd gen is the way to go. can you not detect the sincerity in my responses? in an event, i will let you guys know how the 3rd gen hunting goes, hopefully this is the one.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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blahblahblah your panties are in such a wad over something on the internet blahblahblah
Who wrote three paragraphs saying nothing other than your panties are in a wad?
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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Um the dude is LOSING to not one but 2 3-gens??? Isn't THAT the point??

Originally Posted by zack342
yeah that is quite sad, if you were to look in the "dyno discussion" forum you would notice that car is putting down 200WHP too. it is a shame but that helps to make me assured that my choice is the right one. i have pmed Bob92se and hopefully i will be able to look at the car this weekend. is there any other problems that you guys could recommend that i look for other than what he had posted. i know these are the best cars nissan has ever built so i am very certain that it will be as solid as a rock.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KLoWnPR109
That's a pretty bold statement to make considering you have no idea what my financial situation is, have no clue as to what my car even looks like, and would be seeing my tail lights in any race.

So keep making assumptions when you have no idea what you are talking abot
A 4th gen would only see your 15-year-old VG-mobile's tail lights in a race if the 4th gen started in 5th gear.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Repeating yourself doesn't make your point any clearer or your statments more humerous.

Originally Posted by zack342
Dude you guys are right that is why i am getting a 3rd gen have you read nothing that i posted. the fact that the car has 200whp and still loses to a 3rd gen convinces me that 3rd gen is the way to go. can you not detect the sincerity in my responses? in an event, i will let you guys know how the 3rd gen hunting goes, hopefully this is the one.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
A 4th gen would only see your 15-year-old VG-mobile's tail lights in a race if the 4th gen started in 5th gear.
Unless he did a tranny swap he's an auto. A VG can give a VQ a run for it's money. That is until the end of third gear. I believe the VE was made for third and over.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Zach is right. 4-gens are teh bomb. Here's the one I'm gonna buy
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
Unless he did a tranny swap he's an auto. A VG can give a VQ a run for it's money. That is until the end of third gear. I believe the VE was made for third and over.
I don't know...how do quarter mile times compare? The 3rd gen is heavier and the VG is only 160 HP and I'm sure it has less than 205 torque, so how could it pull on a 4th gen?

No disrespect to the VG, it's a hell of an engine.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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Zach is right. 4-gens are teh bomb. Here's the one I'm gonna buy

OMG, so ugly! The WORST part is the 5th-gen six spoke rims.

I'm only half-kidding; I hate those rims.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Repeating yourself doesn't make your point any clearer or your statments more humerous.

hey to each his own, i am not going to post in this thread anymore because i don't wanna get banned again, i paid my $20 and don't wanna get banned.
i have learned alot from this thread, 3rd gens are the bestest maximas in the world and 4th gens are junk even though they can become very fast with little mods. later guys
this thread should be bookmarked so other people will know which max is the best in the world and not make the same mistake i did.
3rd gens rule for LIFE!?!?!?!?!?!?!? VE power!!!!!
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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This comment has me very, very confused...

Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
Unless he did a tranny swap he's an auto. A VG can give a VQ a run for it's money. That is until the end of third gear. I believe the VE was made for third and over.

And the overall degeneration of this thread in the last 15-20 replies to personal attacks is just rediculous.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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why cant everyone understand that its a matter of opinion?
i'm with neal, this thread has become quite immature. whats the reason for the personal attacks anyway?
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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I don't blame you zack. I don't think anyone come back after seeing that McDonald's on crack 4-gen pic.

Originally Posted by zack342
hey to each his own, i am not going to post in this thread anymore because i don't wanna get banned again, i paid my $20 and don't wanna get banned.
i have learned alot from this thread, 3rd gens are the bestest maximas in the world and 4th gens are junk even though they can become very fast with little mods. later guys
this thread should be bookmarked so other people will know which max is the best in the world and not make the same mistake i did.
3rd gens rule for LIFE!?!?!?!?!?!?!? VE power!!!!!
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
A 4th gen would only see your 15-year-old VG-mobile's tail lights in a race if the 4th gen started in 5th gear.
Tell you what, when I get my car back from the bodyshop, I'll race a 4th gen autotragic and film it. Would you be willing to bet 50 bucks through paypal that I get smoked?
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KLoWnPR109
Tell you what, when I get my car back from the bodyshop, I'll race a 4th gen autotragic and film it. Would you be willing to bet 50 bucks through paypal that I get smoked?
oooh can i make a bet too? i bet $100 on klowny!
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
This comment has me very, very confused...

And the overall degeneration of this thread in the last 15-20 replies to personal attacks is just rediculous.
I don't understand what's confusing. I mean that the VG can hold up to a VQ until the end of third gear. Then the VQ will pull. VE's have the ability to break out on a VG after third gear due to the incredible VI and VTC's that give it the outstanding ability to breathe.

Even though the VG has 160 hp the torque curve is about 10ft/lbs less than a stock 4th gen. That's all low end (just like the VQ) VG's are known to run neck and neck with VE's until third. Out of logic if a VE can hold on to a VQ until the end of third then the VG must do the same. This of course is assuming both are stock.

I don't know how auto VQ's do but VG auto's do high 16's to low 17's. Five speeds can do low to mid 16's. Depending on the driver.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
I don't understand what's confusing. I mean that the VG can hold up to a VQ until the end of third gear. Then the VQ will pull. VE's have the ability to break out on a VG after third gear due to the incredible VI and VTC's that give it the outstanding ability to breathe.

Even though the VG has 160 hp the torque curve is about 10ft/lbs less than a stock 4th gen. That's all low end (just like the VQ) VG's are known to run neck and neck with VE's until third. Out of logic if a VE can hold on to a VQ until the end of third then the VG must do the same. This of course is assuming both are stock.

I don't know how auto VQ's do but VG auto's do high 16's to low 17's. Five speeds can do low to mid 16's. Depending on the driver.
4th gen autos in good conditions can run mid-15's stock.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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http://dmontzmax.maximaclubca.com/Ma...4th%20gen.mpeg

There is a vid for you all to enjoy.

Dont make me bust out the vid of Dragaxima vs. Bags533 where he put like 20 cars on him from the VEs strong point, YES 75+
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
So i have a kill list on my cardomain, who the hell cares, you damn lame, tryin to burn someone casue they have a kill list.
He's not burning you so much because of your kill list, but the way you word it, you make it sound like you can own any of those cars, what if ones turbo? what if ones uber light and has a worked motor? It's like one big tard carnival
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Talking about logic, do you even know what logic is
Read my next few replies, then re-evaluate your own logic
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
just casue you cant afford a 4th gen doesnt mean its a bad car.


the funny thing is, both the klowns, madmax and my parents all own 4th or 5th (in my case) gen maximas, we commonly call the 4th gens the mommy mobiles and the 5th gen the daddy mobile (as thats who drives the cars, just works out that way ).
I suppose the funny part is that you didn't know Paul could have bought a 4th gen but instead bought his 3rd gen. I guess he just enjoys having a fun car to drive, again,
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Originally Posted by zack342
blah blah blah
you weren't banned because of your generation preference, the ban log states you were banned because "next time when people have an adult conversation don't start cursing and getting upset because people don't see it "your way""

so as a participating member having a serious discussion in this thread, please knock off the parody.
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Do it donald, but was this when bags was five speed or auto?
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
A 4th gen would only see your 15-year-old VG-mobile's tail lights in a race if the 4th gen started in 5th gear.
Assumptions


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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
This comment has me very, very confused...
It has to do with the attack on KLoWn's car, he was just saying the only way KLoWn could be a 5spd (in reference to the 3rd gen GXE's) was if KLoWn did a 5spd swap. All 3rd gen GXE's were automatic VG's with no option for a 5spd. His following comment is alittle off base though

Originally Posted by Nealoc187
And the overall degeneration of this thread in the last 15-20 replies to personal attacks is just rediculous.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MaDMaX024
why cant everyone understand that its a matter of opinion?
i'm with neal, this thread has become quite immature. whats the reason for the personal attacks anyway?
more 3rd genners have had the honor of being schooled by the Jeffy, and those 4th genners who are attacking us havent?


yes I'm playing around....... kinda hehehe ;-)
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
the funny thing is, both the klowns, madmax and my parents all own 4th or 5th (in my case) gen maximas, we commonly call the 4th gens the mommy mobiles and the 5th gen the daddy mobile (as thats who drives the cars, just works out that way ).
So that makes your 3rd gen a childs car,
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Originally Posted by MaDMaX024
oooh can i make a bet too? i bet $100 on klowny!
In! ™
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Originally Posted by Dave B
So that makes your 3rd gen a childs car,
I was waiting for someone to make that remark

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