so if they monitor your speeds and give you automatic tickets, what will they do if you autocross or drag race? im sure theyll think your speeding if youre going 100 and then you get a ticket for legal racing...

 

Big brother has been doin this for years Just like the sensors in your TV, Yeah they watch everything your doin to you ol lady in the living room.

Personally I turn everything off, and close my eyes., lol

 

If they send you a ticket with a picture of your speed, just send them a picture of your check. simple!

 

yeah, at least get some use out of it

 

this BS will never work, what if u take ur car to the track.....

 

but there will never be one of these in my 4th gen

 

autocrosses rarely go faster than 65mph, per SCCA regs.

 

i heard they put this in EVO 8's.

 

then remember that i said autocross or drags, drags are rarely under 65mph, and NEVER should be

 

I know Ferrari has had the "black box" for years. I once was told that Ferrari uses it during every routine maintenance to tell if the car has been driven "properly". I guess Ferrari expected a person to wind out the engine every once in while.

With Evo's, the whole thing was not a black box. When the Evo came out and owners were racing them, Mitsu put out a statement saying that if cars showed "signs of racing" the warranty would be voided. By "signs" they refered to premature tire and clutch wear. I guess there was a few people that took there car in under warranty claiming the clutch was slipping or the tires were wearing.

 

I am sure that if Big Brother would be monitering every vehicle, he would know the location. A track would be a known location, and auto-x is a licensed event so that would be known as well

 

oh...i was told otherwise when i was told by a former mitsu service manager.

 

lmao rofl

 

mitsu representatives came to the track one day and wrote down the license plates of all the evo's there, they got letters in the mail later letting them know their warranties were voided

 

That is probably why nobody seems to care anymore about the evo?

 

and i am sure if this is true they reps got their asses kicked for the stock ones out there to see what they can do, if they make the car to handle/perform then why the hell are they gonna go out and ***** slap them with that. service people can tell what an over abused car thats beyond factory warranty coverage looks like when they get to the problem.

as for this black box crap the only thing i would worry about if the feds knowing where i am at at all times, this country is becomming less and less free all the time and its really pissing me the **** off!

if any car had this crap that the feds can track at all time it should be yanked out and shipped to their asses if they want to follow it so badly they can just sit there and watch the box with their own eyues, no prying no border line rights stupid stuff.

 

Hey guys: hate to be a wet towel here buuut...
Don't you think the OEM's already thought about ambitious owners tying to disable or unplug EDR's? More than likely they are/will be integrated into the engine computer, i.e. hardwired onto the motherboard. This just makes sense because all OBD2 ecu's already have datalogging capability for engine diagnostic purposes.

 

wow that really sucks :S

 

this is definately not kool!
the no speeding thing would be fricken crazy!
cuz honestly who doesnt speed!

 

ferrari has used this type of system since the f50 and its been used in formula one racing and other circuit venues for years,.... thats where it came from.

 

Actually I think Ferrari got the idea from airplanes.

 

I dont drive at excessive speeds or really go past the speed limit by more than 5mph so i dont care much. I hope it stops the idiots who like to do 100mph in a 40 zone.

 

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe this has been addressed, but EDRs have definitely been in use by companies to show abuse by logging things like:

- Hitting the rev limiter
- Exceeding a certain speed
- Deactivating traction/stability control
- Causing traction/stability control to step in
- Activating launch assist

..and other such things. As has been said, BMW also uses it in their M cars to make sure you haven't been beating on them during break-in (e.g. their EDRs can also log when you exceed a certain RPM).

Key Point: They're only actually tracking 10-20 seconds' worth of stuff, but they can still store a lot of events when triggered to do so. So, unless you crash into something at the end of a run, it's not as if they can tell you exactly what you were doing at the track. All they can know is that you hit the rev limiter a few times and exceeded a certain speed once or twice.

I still think mandatory EDRs are Satan for slippery-slope reasons, but I wanted to make sure this was clear FWIW.

 

Lol good one.