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Old 11-14-2000 | 09:06 PM
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Ok, an install for a remote starter with a slushbox is easy, I've done one. But is it possible for one on a 5-speed? Assuming that you had a sensor that would not allow the car to start if it was left in gear, and something to trick the ignition into thinking that the clutch is depressed...could this work? Also there is the security system to deal with. Sounds like too much time for my busy schedule to do myself. Does anyone know of this being done?? how much??
Old 11-14-2000 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by OzMaToz
Ok, an install for a remote starter with a slushbox is easy, I've done one. But is it possible for one on a 5-speed? Assuming that you had a sensor that would not allow the car to start if it was left in gear, and something to trick the ignition into thinking that the clutch is depressed...could this work? Also there is the security system to deal with. Sounds like too much time for my busy schedule to do myself. Does anyone know of this being done?? how much??
you can hook up a remote starter to a 5-speed the problem is what happens if your car is parked and you left the car in gear and thiers a boy playing or getting a ball between your car and an other car and you hit the remote starter and your car jumps and kills that boy then what????????????????????????????????????????????? that why we only instal. remote starters in auto. i seen a car hit a wall at a car wash, lucky that the wall was there to stop the car and nobody got hurt. good luck
Old 11-14-2000 | 09:56 PM
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so you make sure your car is parked

or ebrake up?
Old 11-14-2000 | 10:07 PM
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Re: so you make sure your car is parked

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or ebrake up?
e-brakes won't stop the car. the good remote starters ( most of them ) will try to start your car 3 times before it shuts it self off when the car does't start and if your not in your car and the car is off that means your car is parked.
Old 11-14-2000 | 10:10 PM
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I would definetly make sure that I could have some sort of switch that disables the remote starter if I left it in gear by accident.
Old 11-14-2000 | 10:12 PM
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My instructor in school has done a remote start on stick before. He said something about micro reed switchs, in the shifter/linkage, It can be done!, Except most shops won't.
Old 11-14-2000 | 11:11 PM
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remote start!!! baby!!!!!!

It's easy boys and girl to put a remote start on a five speed but it is not recommended by any of the manufacturers of remote start. We already did one on a 88 Nissan Hardbody truck. First is to install it as per instruction of the manufacturer for a automatic trans. Now the fun part is to disengage clutch without depressing it. It's easy all you need is a relay to activate the clutch switch whenever you remote start or just disconnect it.(then you can start your car without depressing your clutch) after you have done that, you have to make sure that it doesn't start when it's in gear. I'm not sure if Maximas has it but i think 5 speed transmission has a neutral switch. Now you have to figure out if this switch put out a +12volt or ground. If +12 volt then all you have to do is connect it to the brake trigger switch wire of the remote start, it's the same wire you have to hookup to the to the brake and the parking brake though. Then if its a has a ground output then you have to hookup a relay using the ground output to trigger it and send a 12 volt output the the brake switch wire. It sounds confusing so i recommend to have somebody good with electrical wiring do it.
Old 11-14-2000 | 11:25 PM
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YESS, I've have done it!

Originally posted by OzMaToz
Ok, an install for a remote starter with a slushbox is easy, I've done one. But is it possible for one on a 5-speed? Assuming that you had a sensor that would not allow the car to start if it was left in gear, and something to trick the ignition into thinking that the clutch is depressed...could this work? Also there is the security system to deal with. Sounds like too much time for my busy schedule to do myself. Does anyone know of this being done?? how much??

I have a local car alarm shop put a remote starter for my 5spd maxima. It is called the Hornet. But, you gotx to be careful not to leave the car in gear. Because, when you auto start the car will drive off.......
Old 11-15-2000 | 03:38 AM
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I have a Viper550HF on my 96 5 speed. The remote start is easily installed and you don't need any special relays to disengage the clutch. If you notice, when you press the clutch to the floor, there is a button that it presses, I just put a cap on it to be pressed all the time. There is a relay that won't start the car when it is in gear or when the e-brake is down, I just heard it is expansive and requires a lot of labor. Just don't let anybody drive your car, or if they do, make sure they didn't leave it in gear.
Old 11-15-2000 | 10:07 AM
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I agree w/ EZEMAX

My riend did the exact thing on a MR2.
Old 11-15-2000 | 10:31 AM
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I had a remote start on my 4th gen, and thinking about getting it on my 2K. had a Viper, I never left the car in gear and I don't leave my car in gear now with my 2k. Hardly anyone drove my car, and when they did, I didn't use the auto start.. the clutch is not hard, U just cap the switch that holds the car from starting. Now there is something U can do to decect that there's motion when U start. a Murcery switch that would disable the start if the car jumped.
Old 11-15-2000 | 10:46 AM
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So you all are telling me that you're willing to park your 5spd with the shifter in N just so you can have that remote start capability? You're willing to risk your car rolling down a hill/etc when you're away from it just so you can impress (whoever) by remotely starting it.

Damn, the compromises some of you guys make for the sake of a modification are...not wise.
Old 11-15-2000 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Keven97SE
So you all are telling me that you're willing to park your 5spd with the shifter in N just so you can have that remote start capability? You're willing to risk your car rolling down a hill/etc when you're away from it just so you can impress (whoever) by remotely starting it.

Damn, the compromises some of you guys make for the sake of a modification are...not wise.
it's not just to impress... i'd like to be able to wake up in the morning and start my car to warm it up without having to walk outside. and then by the time i'm ready, the heater would have made my car nice and warm - seeing that it's winter now.
Old 11-15-2000 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Keven97SE
So you all are telling me that you're willing to park your 5spd with the shifter in N just so you can have that remote start capability? You're willing to risk your car rolling down a hill/etc when you're away from it just so you can impress (whoever) by remotely starting it.

Damn, the compromises some of you guys make for the sake of a modification are...not wise.
Yes seems very unsafe, however I could see the argument for a remote starter if the person lived in a cold climate and wanted to start the car before they left the house.... I remember sitting in my 73 Hornet on freezing mornings waiting for that thing to warm up.... not fun at all!

Old 11-15-2000 | 11:59 AM
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I have faith in my instructor...

He put a remote start on his bike!,(Suzuki GSX-R 750).
He put one on Tommy Lee's Harley. Micro Reed Switches, so you can leave it in gear.
Old 11-15-2000 | 11:59 AM
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Weeeell

If the alarm has the neutral swith installed the car won't turn on if you have it in gear. About rolling off, it's probably not a good idea to use your transmision to keep your car from rolling off, that's what the E-brake is for and at that you can have the alarm wired to not turn the car on if the E-brake is not up. My friend had that setup on his car as well.
I know leaving the weight of your car on the tranny will cause problems if you do it every day like my Mom's auto. Max. Her tranny is starting to give her problem and she only has like 40k miles on it, but the drive way is sloped and she puts it in park first before pulling the E-brake and now you can really feel it when you leave the next time. The tranny chugs when you drop it in reverse.
Old 11-15-2000 | 12:06 PM
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I'm sure using the tranny on a 5spd

to keep the car from moving isn't AS bad but I'm sure it doesn't help it having 3000lbs on a slope.
I don't think the remote start up would be unsafe if done right. I sure wish I had since it's getting cooler and don't have time to warm it up in the morning.
Old 11-15-2000 | 12:32 PM
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some Nissans are equipped with a Neutral Switch

Some (if not all) Nissans are blessed with a neutral switch from the factory. My Infiniti G20 has one, Nissan Sentras have it, my 240SX has one also. Check your FSM, you may have a few switches coming from the tranny that will greatly increase the safety of your remote start.

Keep in mind, however, that this is NOT the same switch as the Clutch Interlock Switch and the Automatic Speed Control Device Switch (cruise control cancel), both of which are found at the clutch pedal. You will, however, need to tap a relay for the Clutch Interlock. The engine will not start without this wire getting ground... it wants you to depress the clutch all the way down in order to start the engine.

My alarm's remote start brain will send a signal to a custom relay a second before cranking the motor. This gives ground to the Clutch Interlock to simulate pressing the clutch pedal all the way down, and it will also sense the Neutral Switch signal... therefore it will only start if left in Neutral. If Shing has a FSM I can study I can tell you what to do with which wires.
Old 11-15-2000 | 03:51 PM
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Hmm sounds like it can be done

Well thanks for all the info everyone, sounds like it is possible if I am careful about getting it wired up right. As far as trying to impress people, I really dont give a flying f#$% if someone sees me remote start my car. Where I am right now, when I go out to my car in the mornings it is typically 10-20 degrees below zero from january through march. It would be nice to have it warmed up and ready to drive when I get out to it.... ahhhhh soft warm leather seats...got to love them!
Old 11-15-2000 | 04:14 PM
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One more thing...........................

With my remote start, even if I leave my heater on, it doesn't work with remote start, it turns on when I put the key in. The car warms up obviously, but it's not warm and cozy as I want it to be. How can I fix that, please help, I need it, in Chicago we had light snow for the past two days.
Old 11-15-2000 | 04:17 PM
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Impressing people Hummmm maybe %20. The main function of remote start was to keep the engine warm and keep the car cool or hot depending on where you live. I use to love the mornings when It was snowing or freezing rain outside and I peek through window start the car, the heater is running, by the time I get in my car its nice and warm and the frozen snow or water has melted off the windows. Unless you live in a cold area you wouldn't understand.

Hummmm Let me think. Next Project, Fix the spring problem get a Auto Start.
Old 11-15-2000 | 05:43 PM
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Well, speaking of cars with 5spd and remote starts. My new 2000 Sentra 5spd has the AviStart 6500 Alarm. (Avital/Clifford) makes it. Now this did happen to me, but I did not do this. I have a habit myself to leave the car in N when I part it and the parking brake up. Well just recently, about 2 weeks or so ago, my friend had to drive me back to his house since I was a bit buzzing from drinks at the bowling alley. Well he drove my car, parked it in his 45 degree slopping drive way. We did not think anything about it, watched a movie for 2 hrs, till I got sober, then I asked for my keys, he was digging in his pocket for them, mixed up with his, he finally handed me the keys, but in trasistion of handing them to me, we heard a loud BAM from outside, and then alot of BAMs in a row. Well guess what? He left my car in 1st year, parking brake was up hard, but the car slid its back tires, front ones left marks, and the car went through his garage door, into the back of his S10 truck and was trying to start and ramming still. His truck got scratched up a little, my car license plate was smashed, tinted cover gone, lower air dam chipped, but other than that, no damage, garage door was a alum. one and the lower 2 doors was gone, I mean bent really bad. We got them bent almost back in shape, so they can install, but we had to take apart the doors to get his truck out.

It can happen, never forget that! Just by accident! Now that I read about this NEUTRAL tranny switch, I need to locate the one on mine since I have my FSM, to see if I can use it and tap it into my alarm brain so it works! Anyways, just a heads up!
Old 11-15-2000 | 06:23 PM
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Nissan's neutral tranny switch

Originally posted by Russ2kSE
It can happen, never forget that! Just by accident! Now that I read about this NEUTRAL tranny switch, I need to locate the one on mine since I have my FSM, to see if I can use it and tap it into my alarm brain so it works!
I'd call you dumb, but it happened to me before I realized there is a Neutral Switch... a friend was messing with my transmitter, I had left it in 1st gear, and it plowed over a neighbor's mailbox. That prompted me to find a safer way so I studied my FSM.

Russ, my information pertains to you especially. Go check out the SE-R Mailing List archives at http://www.se-r-list.org and search for 'abadilla remote start' and I bet you'll find some informative posts... I think I put out a few with wiring diagrams.

The Neutral Switch goes to the ECU, so start in that section of the FSM. If I remember correctly, that wire becomes Ground when the transmission is in neutral. Good luck
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