Variable Intake from NZ thread
#161
Originally posted by iansw
All I know is it added +25hp at the wheel to MardisGrasMax's ride.
That's why I'm being the test monkey for it for NA cars before I sell it.
And those hp numbers are the Imperial Numbers.
IanS
All I know is it added +25hp at the wheel to MardisGrasMax's ride.
That's why I'm being the test monkey for it for NA cars before I sell it.
And those hp numbers are the Imperial Numbers.
IanS
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Originally posted by Mr Cranman
Hey, I don't mind being a ginny pig either. I mean I'll be glad to forward you the money for the piece right away without any results. Because I'm certain it will work and even have like 10-15 Hp at the wheels would definitely be worth 450-500 bucks...probably the best HP gain for the money, if your staying naturally aspirated.
Hey, I don't mind being a ginny pig either. I mean I'll be glad to forward you the money for the piece right away without any results. Because I'm certain it will work and even have like 10-15 Hp at the wheels would definitely be worth 450-500 bucks...probably the best HP gain for the money, if your staying naturally aspirated.
The proof is in the pudding, so they say.
Other people are already on my prority list because they helped get this going. They'll be the first to get it after I prove it.
If you want to risk it and get it beforehand, we can talk about that. But no refunds if it doesn't work.
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The other reason is what if my supplier is shady and screws me over?
At least then it's only me being screwed over.
I'd rather wait until I have one in my hands before ordering for everyone else.
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At least then it's only me being screwed over.
I'd rather wait until I have one in my hands before ordering for everyone else.
IanS
#164
Originally posted by Mishmosh
If the ME Max's don't have a CAT and possibly a different Y-pipe without the precats--more like aftermarket Y-pipes, I am wondering what kind of gains we are talking about. Maybe only +15hp on the high end?
...I guess only time will tell.
If the ME Max's don't have a CAT and possibly a different Y-pipe without the precats--more like aftermarket Y-pipes, I am wondering what kind of gains we are talking about. Maybe only +15hp on the high end?
...I guess only time will tell.
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The only way we're gonna know is if someone who is bone stock dynos it.
I will not be bone stock, as I have a Pop-Charger and Y-pipe.
But I'll do several runs without, and several runs with.
Thanks,
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I will not be bone stock, as I have a Pop-Charger and Y-pipe.
But I'll do several runs without, and several runs with.
Thanks,
IanS
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Is THIS the part we're looking for?
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u2.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u3.jpg
Price is going to be about $465+shipping from my house to yours. This will include all butterflies, moving parts, the cover and gaskets, etc. These are brand new.
I'm NOT SURE if it includes bolts, but I can get those locally and sell them with the package if need be. Bolts are cheap. Waiting to hear back about that.
IanS
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u2.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u3.jpg
Price is going to be about $465+shipping from my house to yours. This will include all butterflies, moving parts, the cover and gaskets, etc. These are brand new.
I'm NOT SURE if it includes bolts, but I can get those locally and sell them with the package if need be. Bolts are cheap. Waiting to hear back about that.
IanS
#167
And they're brand spanking new?? You've hit the gold mine!
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Originally posted by iansw
Is THIS the part we're looking for?
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u2.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u3.jpg
Price is going to be about $465+shipping from my house to yours. This will include all butterflies, moving parts, the cover and gaskets, etc. These are brand new.
I'm NOT SURE if it includes bolts, but I can get those locally and sell them with the package if need be. Bolts are cheap. Waiting to hear back about that.
IanS
Is THIS the part we're looking for?
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u2.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u3.jpg
Price is going to be about $465+shipping from my house to yours. This will include all butterflies, moving parts, the cover and gaskets, etc. These are brand new.
I'm NOT SURE if it includes bolts, but I can get those locally and sell them with the package if need be. Bolts are cheap. Waiting to hear back about that.
IanS
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Well, my supplier doesn't speak great English, so he never said whether or not they were new, but I'm 90% sure that they are.
The definately have been refinished and polished if they are used.
Anyway, I will start a Group Deal.
The one in the picture is on it's way to my place. I'll get it, install it, and verify all the parts are included.
Then I'm off to the Dyno.
I will then post in the Group Buy Forum with Dyno Results for NA Cars, and start setting up a group buy.
I will see what kinds of discounts I can get if we buy a bunch at once.
The good news is that It has been found, and for far less than $650.00.
IanS
The definately have been refinished and polished if they are used.
Anyway, I will start a Group Deal.
The one in the picture is on it's way to my place. I'll get it, install it, and verify all the parts are included.
Then I'm off to the Dyno.
I will then post in the Group Buy Forum with Dyno Results for NA Cars, and start setting up a group buy.
I will see what kinds of discounts I can get if we buy a bunch at once.
The good news is that It has been found, and for far less than $650.00.
IanS
#170
I'm in if it works!!!!
Good work!!
Good work!!
Originally posted by iansw
Well, my supplier doesn't speak great English, so he never said whether or not they were new, but I'm 90% sure that they are.
The definately have been refinished and polished if they are used.
Anyway, I will start a Group Deal.
The one in the picture is on it's way to my place. I'll get it, install it, and verify all the parts are included.
Then I'm off to the Dyno.
I will then post in the Group Buy Forum with Dyno Results for NA Cars, and start setting up a group buy.
I will see what kinds of discounts I can get if we buy a bunch at once.
The good news is that It has been found, and for far less than $650.00.
IanS
Well, my supplier doesn't speak great English, so he never said whether or not they were new, but I'm 90% sure that they are.
The definately have been refinished and polished if they are used.
Anyway, I will start a Group Deal.
The one in the picture is on it's way to my place. I'll get it, install it, and verify all the parts are included.
Then I'm off to the Dyno.
I will then post in the Group Buy Forum with Dyno Results for NA Cars, and start setting up a group buy.
I will see what kinds of discounts I can get if we buy a bunch at once.
The good news is that It has been found, and for far less than $650.00.
IanS
#171
Originally posted by iansw
Is THIS the part we're looking for?
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u2.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u3.jpg
Price is going to be about $465+shipping from my house to yours. This will include all butterflies, moving parts, the cover and gaskets, etc. These are brand new.
I'm NOT SURE if it includes bolts, but I can get those locally and sell them with the package if need be. Bolts are cheap. Waiting to hear back about that.
IanS
Is THIS the part we're looking for?
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u1.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u2.jpg
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/38u3.jpg
Price is going to be about $465+shipping from my house to yours. This will include all butterflies, moving parts, the cover and gaskets, etc. These are brand new.
I'm NOT SURE if it includes bolts, but I can get those locally and sell them with the package if need be. Bolts are cheap. Waiting to hear back about that.
IanS
#172
Beware
Although that is indeed the manifold you are looking for--and looking mighty new too--the pictures do not have the necessary hardware for proper functioning. You need the top cover, the gasket, the butterfly valves and the vacuum canister (lever). The vacuum actuator system can be rigged up like Mardigrasmax's with parts here at home. Just make sure you have all the aforementioned parts.
Roadbeast looked into getting it from his Agent/Dealer too and although the part was new, it did not have the other hardware which may jack the price up a couple hundred US$.
Roadbeast looked into getting it from his Agent/Dealer too and although the part was new, it did not have the other hardware which may jack the price up a couple hundred US$.
#173
Re: Beware
Originally posted by Mishmosh
Although that is indeed the manifold you are looking for--and looking mighty new too--the pictures do not have the necessary hardware for proper functioning. You need the top cover, the gasket, the butterfly valves and the vacuum canister (lever). The vacuum actuator system can be rigged up like Mardigrasmax's with parts here at home. Just make sure you have all the aforementioned parts.
Roadbeast looked into getting it from his Agent/Dealer too and although the part was new, it did not have the other hardware which may jack the price up a couple hundred US$.
Although that is indeed the manifold you are looking for--and looking mighty new too--the pictures do not have the necessary hardware for proper functioning. You need the top cover, the gasket, the butterfly valves and the vacuum canister (lever). The vacuum actuator system can be rigged up like Mardigrasmax's with parts here at home. Just make sure you have all the aforementioned parts.
Roadbeast looked into getting it from his Agent/Dealer too and although the part was new, it did not have the other hardware which may jack the price up a couple hundred US$.
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Re: Beware
The price I list includes all hardware. Butterflies, rod, valve.
It does not include the vacuum canister or MAP/Baro Switch or the RPM Switch.
I'm checking right now to ensure that the bolts needed are included, but I think the existing bolts on our engines will work anyway. If I need bolts, I think the diagram I have lists the Nissan Part Numbers (10 Digits). Could someone tell me if that is correct (see link below).
Everything included in the price is highlighted in Green or Red on the diagram in the link below....
Anyone else see anything I need, besides the gasket, (14035P) which is obvious.
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/diagram.jpg
It does not include the vacuum canister or MAP/Baro Switch or the RPM Switch.
I'm checking right now to ensure that the bolts needed are included, but I think the existing bolts on our engines will work anyway. If I need bolts, I think the diagram I have lists the Nissan Part Numbers (10 Digits). Could someone tell me if that is correct (see link below).
Everything included in the price is highlighted in Green or Red on the diagram in the link below....
Anyone else see anything I need, besides the gasket, (14035P) which is obvious.
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/diagram.jpg
#175
Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by iansw
The price I list includes all hardware. Butterflies, rod, valve.
It does not include the vacuum canister or MAP/Baro Switch or the RPm Switch.
I'm checking right now to ensure that the bolts needed are included, but I think the existing bolts on our engines will work anyway.
Anyone else see anything I need, besides the gasket, (14035P) which is obvious.
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/diagram.jpg
The price I list includes all hardware. Butterflies, rod, valve.
It does not include the vacuum canister or MAP/Baro Switch or the RPm Switch.
I'm checking right now to ensure that the bolts needed are included, but I think the existing bolts on our engines will work anyway.
Anyone else see anything I need, besides the gasket, (14035P) which is obvious.
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/diagram.jpg
#176
Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by iansw
The price I list includes all hardware. Butterflies, rod, valve.
It does not include the vacuum canister or MAP/Baro Switch or the RPM Switch.
I'm checking right now to ensure that the bolts needed are included, but I think the existing bolts on our engines will work anyway. If I need bolts, I think the diagram I have lists the Nissan Part Numbers (10 Digits). Could someone tell me if that is correct (see link below).
Everything included in the price is highlighted in Green or Red on the diagram in the link below....
Anyone else see anything I need, besides the gasket, (14035P) which is obvious.
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/diagram.jpg
The price I list includes all hardware. Butterflies, rod, valve.
It does not include the vacuum canister or MAP/Baro Switch or the RPM Switch.
I'm checking right now to ensure that the bolts needed are included, but I think the existing bolts on our engines will work anyway. If I need bolts, I think the diagram I have lists the Nissan Part Numbers (10 Digits). Could someone tell me if that is correct (see link below).
Everything included in the price is highlighted in Green or Red on the diagram in the link below....
Anyone else see anything I need, besides the gasket, (14035P) which is obvious.
http://www.cyberhub.net/intake/diagram.jpg
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Re: Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by Mr Cranman
The only thing I can't really tell is if the highlighted piece is actually the butterfly valve that you need. Because it is off the screen. It looks like the hilighted areas is pointing to nuts and not the butterfly itself. But if they say it is coming with it...maybe they should send the whoel picture so you can tell.
The only thing I can't really tell is if the highlighted piece is actually the butterfly valve that you need. Because it is off the screen. It looks like the hilighted areas is pointing to nuts and not the butterfly itself. But if they say it is coming with it...maybe they should send the whoel picture so you can tell.
Try the link again. It should have the whole picture in it now.
Remember to hit "Ctrl-F5" in your browser to do a full refresh.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by iansw
Try the link again. It should have the whole picture in it now.
Remember to hit "Ctrl-F5" in your browser to do a full refresh.
IanS
Try the link again. It should have the whole picture in it now.
Remember to hit "Ctrl-F5" in your browser to do a full refresh.
IanS
Thanks for your hard work Ian,
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by Mr Cranman
Looks like you have everything you need...can't wait til you get and get it running so we can get one also.
Thanks for your hard work Ian,
John
Looks like you have everything you need...can't wait til you get and get it running so we can get one also.
Thanks for your hard work Ian,
John
I wired the money to his account, but because of current Customs issues in the ME, it oculd take up to 2 weeks just to get there.
So it's going to be awhile before I get the part. But I will be doing a group deal shortly afterwards. I'll start one for 10 people, then go on from there, depending on Supply/Demand
Price will definately be $469.00
Hope that's not too much.
IanS
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I went to MardiGrasMax's site to see the pics he has of his installed.
THis is all I got:
"Pictures of components for install of ME/VI vacuum switching system.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
What's his problem?
Anyone have those pictures?
IanS
THis is all I got:
"Pictures of components for install of ME/VI vacuum switching system.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!"
What's his problem?
Anyone have those pictures?
IanS
#181
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by iansw
Well, I've now hit a small problem.
I wired the money to his account, but because of current Customs issues in the ME, it oculd take up to 2 weeks just to get there.
So it's going to be awhile before I get the part. But I will be doing a group deal shortly afterwards. I'll start one for 10 people, then go on from there, depending on Supply/Demand
Price will definately be $469.00
Hope that's not too much.
IanS
IanS
Well, I've now hit a small problem.
I wired the money to his account, but because of current Customs issues in the ME, it oculd take up to 2 weeks just to get there.
So it's going to be awhile before I get the part. But I will be doing a group deal shortly afterwards. I'll start one for 10 people, then go on from there, depending on Supply/Demand
Price will definately be $469.00
Hope that's not too much.
IanS
IanS
Exaclty which country did you order from? If its from Dubai, UAE somethings up. Its pretty much the easiest country in the world to sell anything from.........
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware
Originally posted by Finality
Customs issue in the ME??????
Exaclty which country did you order from? If its from Dubai, UAE somethings up. Its pretty much the easiest country in the world to sell anything from.........
Customs issue in the ME??????
Exaclty which country did you order from? If its from Dubai, UAE somethings up. Its pretty much the easiest country in the world to sell anything from.........
IanS
#185
Re: loudness?
You're not going to see 30 hp unless you're running boost.
Originally posted by meccanoble
dam this thread is long..450 for 30 hp? i'm down, but gotta start saving...anyway, how loud is this badboy gonna be? louder than y-pipe/new exhaust system/CAI combination?
dam this thread is long..450 for 30 hp? i'm down, but gotta start saving...anyway, how loud is this badboy gonna be? louder than y-pipe/new exhaust system/CAI combination?
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Re: Re: loudness?
Originally posted by Shadow
You're not going to see 30 hp unless you're running boost.
You're not going to see 30 hp unless you're running boost.
We'll just have to see.
As far as 30hp, I doubt that, but won't be surprised to see 22-28hp.
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If you add this VI to a stock Gen4 motor with 190 crank HP, then put on a Gen 5 muffler, (This mod would go hand in hand with the VI) would it not be reasonable to expect, say, 95% of the Gen 5's ouput of 227 crank hp? That would be 215 hp, an increase of 25 hp over stock. I think it's doable, especially since this VI addresses the Gen 4 motor's primary weakness,loss of power up top, and adds all its power right there after 5300 rpm. Even a mild increase in airflow efficeiency at 5300 rpm and above should produce very good results.
I think boosted cars would do better to simply have a way bigger intake manifold system, because they are simply shoving that air in They need a path of least resistance, period, no fancy shapes like this manifold. It was designed for an NA vehicle.
That's my theory anyways. Soon to find out.
DW
I think boosted cars would do better to simply have a way bigger intake manifold system, because they are simply shoving that air in They need a path of least resistance, period, no fancy shapes like this manifold. It was designed for an NA vehicle.
That's my theory anyways. Soon to find out.
DW
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
If you add this VI to a stock Gen4 motor with 190 crank HP, then put on a Gen 5 muffler, (This mod would go hand in hand with the VI) would it not be reasonable to expect, say, 95% of the Gen 5's ouput of 227 crank hp? That would be 215 hp, an increase of 25 hp over stock. I think it's doable, especially since this VI addresses the Gen 4 motor's primary weakness,loss of power up top, and adds all its power right there after 5300 rpm. Even a mild increase in airflow efficeiency at 5300 rpm and above should produce very good results.
I think boosted cars would do better to simply have a way bigger intake manifold system, because they are simply shoving that air in They need a path of least resistance, period, no fancy shapes like this manifold. It was designed for an NA vehicle.
That's my theory anyways. Soon to find out.
DW
If you add this VI to a stock Gen4 motor with 190 crank HP, then put on a Gen 5 muffler, (This mod would go hand in hand with the VI) would it not be reasonable to expect, say, 95% of the Gen 5's ouput of 227 crank hp? That would be 215 hp, an increase of 25 hp over stock. I think it's doable, especially since this VI addresses the Gen 4 motor's primary weakness,loss of power up top, and adds all its power right there after 5300 rpm. Even a mild increase in airflow efficeiency at 5300 rpm and above should produce very good results.
I think boosted cars would do better to simply have a way bigger intake manifold system, because they are simply shoving that air in They need a path of least resistance, period, no fancy shapes like this manifold. It was designed for an NA vehicle.
That's my theory anyways. Soon to find out.
DW
Ok, and if the muffler ads 5-8hp then the VI would be 17-20hp? I got 8hp swapping in mine but that's above normal. $469+install for ~20hp still sounds impressive. It all comes back to the NA dyno results
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Wow! I just checked your dyno on your cardomain page. I didn't think the 5th gen muffler would do that much! But then, maybe it's in conjunction with the GForce ECU and other mods. But nice! Anyways, since you already have the muffler, you should kick butt with this addition!
On a slightly different note, it would be interesting to see how the GForce ECU deals with the VI.
DW
On a slightly different note, it would be interesting to see how the GForce ECU deals with the VI.
DW
Originally posted by BEJAY1
Ok, and if the muffler ads 5-8hp then the VI would be 17-20hp? I got 8hp swapping in mine but that's above normal. $469+install for ~20hp still sounds impressive. It all comes back to the NA dyno results
Ok, and if the muffler ads 5-8hp then the VI would be 17-20hp? I got 8hp swapping in mine but that's above normal. $469+install for ~20hp still sounds impressive. It all comes back to the NA dyno results
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
On a slightly different note, it would be interesting to see how the GForce ECU deals with the VI.
DW
On a slightly different note, it would be interesting to see how the GForce ECU deals with the VI.
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Re: loudness?
There should be no increase in noise. You might notice a tone change right when the intake switches over at ~5000 rpm (like turning from a low pitched rumble to a higher pitched one), but no increase in loudness. It is a stock Nissan part, and you know how they are about adding any bit of noise (not acceptable to them).
Originally posted by meccanoble
dam this thread is long..450 for 30 hp? i'm down, but gotta start saving...anyway, how loud is this badboy gonna be? louder than y-pipe/new exhaust system/CAI combination?
dam this thread is long..450 for 30 hp? i'm down, but gotta start saving...anyway, how loud is this badboy gonna be? louder than y-pipe/new exhaust system/CAI combination?
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OK...now I'm getting a little worried.
I sent the guy the money at 5:00am his time, and scanned a copy of the recipt. I sent the copy of the receipt to him at 6:00am his time, waited all night (day for him), and he hasn't replied to any of it. It is now about 9:00pm his time.
Maybe he doesn't feel he needs to reply because in his eyes, the transaction is done, and there is no need to reply.
Maybe he's not replying because he knows the money is on the way, and can screw me now?
Dealing with culture in other countries can be a pain.
I'm probably being just paranoid.
IanS
I sent the guy the money at 5:00am his time, and scanned a copy of the recipt. I sent the copy of the receipt to him at 6:00am his time, waited all night (day for him), and he hasn't replied to any of it. It is now about 9:00pm his time.
Maybe he doesn't feel he needs to reply because in his eyes, the transaction is done, and there is no need to reply.
Maybe he's not replying because he knows the money is on the way, and can screw me now?
Dealing with culture in other countries can be a pain.
I'm probably being just paranoid.
IanS
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Comfort yourself with the fact that he has a chance to sell 10 more, and he won't want to lose that opportunity.
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DW
Originally posted by iansw
OK...now I'm getting a little worried.
I sent the guy the money at 5:00am his time, and scanned a copy of the recipt. I sent the copy of the receipt to him at 6:00am his time, waited all night (day for him), and he hasn't replied to any of it. It is now about 9:00pm his time.
Maybe he doesn't feel he needs to reply?
Maybe he's not replying because he knows the money is on the way, and can screw me now?
Dealing with culture in other countries can be a pain.
IanS
OK...now I'm getting a little worried.
I sent the guy the money at 5:00am his time, and scanned a copy of the recipt. I sent the copy of the receipt to him at 6:00am his time, waited all night (day for him), and he hasn't replied to any of it. It is now about 9:00pm his time.
Maybe he doesn't feel he needs to reply?
Maybe he's not replying because he knows the money is on the way, and can screw me now?
Dealing with culture in other countries can be a pain.
IanS
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whew! After reading this very long and exciting thread I need to take a nap! Ian, if and when you pull this off, I believe you will go down in my personal hero list. Just a couple more questions to add to the pile though.
If your supplier does pull through and you do a group deal, will this be a one time thing? I know you have gone to a ton of trouble so if you didnt want to bother doing it again I can understand fully.
Add my name to the list for sure if these or going to be in limited supply.
Best of luck!
If your supplier does pull through and you do a group deal, will this be a one time thing? I know you have gone to a ton of trouble so if you didnt want to bother doing it again I can understand fully.
Add my name to the list for sure if these or going to be in limited supply.
Best of luck!
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Originally posted by Danielsan
Add my name to the list for sure if these or going to be in limited supply.
Best of luck!
Add my name to the list for sure if these or going to be in limited supply.
Best of luck!
Ayway, I've got 4 or 5 people who know VQ's like they know their girlfriends helping me with it, so that should work out fine.
As far as the group deal, it all depends on supply/demand. This guy I'm dealing with doesn't speak English well, and rarely answers my secondary questions. I have asked 3 times how many he has in stock, and he only answers the first part of my E-Mail, and not the secondary questions.
I tried sending him just the questions, but he started getting impatient with me and said only "Plz wait, back we will".
So depending on how many they have, and how easy I can deal with them, is how many I'll be selling.
I think in his garbled English he did try to say he is a direct supplier from Nissan, so I think he can get an unlimited amount. But it was badly garbled and hard to understand.
He said:
"we are supplying these parts regularly.So,first will have to make sure parts."
IanS
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Ian
First I would like to thank you for all the work you are putting into this!!!! Assuming everything works out this will be one of the most anticipated group buys ever!
In the calm before the storm I would like to ask a few questions.
1. You have given a price of $469 + domestic shipping. Does this price include your profit and shipping from the ME?
2. How will you accept payment for the group deal i.e. paypal, credit card, check/money order?
First I would like to thank you for all the work you are putting into this!!!! Assuming everything works out this will be one of the most anticipated group buys ever!
In the calm before the storm I would like to ask a few questions.
1. You have given a price of $469 + domestic shipping. Does this price include your profit and shipping from the ME?
2. How will you accept payment for the group deal i.e. paypal, credit card, check/money order?