92 SE or 96 SE?
05-08-2002, 06:08 PM
#3
Re: 92 SE or 96 SE?
go with the '96....less miles(and no VTCs 
) = less worries right VE guys! ;P
) = less worries right VE guys! ;P
Originally posted by jw2
Help! I'm in the market for a Maxima. Any words of wisdom would help...
92 SE 130K miles new transmision 130K miles $5K
or
96 SE 100K miles (fwy miles) $8K:
rolleyes:
Help! I'm in the market for a Maxima. Any words of wisdom would help...
92 SE 130K miles new transmision 130K miles $5K
or
96 SE 100K miles (fwy miles) $8K:
rolleyes:
05-08-2002, 06:21 PM
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of course us 3rd gen guys would say get the 3g, cause everyone in their right mind knows thay look much better than the 4th gens, but consider the factors....
a 92 VE with 130k and possible VTC problems(add on anohter ~$1k)...or a 4th gen with 100k miles and a relatively clean track record
I love 3rd gens but seriously.....
a 92 VE with 130k and possible VTC problems(add on anohter ~$1k)...or a 4th gen with 100k miles and a relatively clean track record
I love 3rd gens but seriously.....
05-08-2002, 06:22 PM
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Originally posted by jw2
But you yourself drive the '93?!?!?
THe 96 looks like an egg! Do you have any problems with your 93?
But you yourself drive the '93?!?!?
THe 96 looks like an egg! Do you have any problems with your 93?
But most people on the .org would say get the '96 so I aint arguing
As for my '93 it's in mint condition. NO bad vtc's, exhaust studs whatever.
05-08-2002, 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Maximan190
well said
whats the further specs on both cars...5 spd/auto, features etc
well said
whats the further specs on both cars...5 spd/auto, features etc
The 96 is a white egg, but it runs as new. All fwy miles used to commute to SF. 1st owner but it's 3k over the '92.
I need to decide today! I'm tired of being carless!!!!
05-08-2002, 06:28 PM
#10
if its an auto I'd go with the '96!!! if speed is your thing they seem to be a few tenths faster than the auto VE...mid/high 15's compared to low 16's) probably becasue of age, but if its an auto go for the '96! but I have to agree the 3g will look much better!
05-08-2002, 06:28 PM
#11
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
05-08-2002, 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by jim90gxe
Glad you finally noticed.
Glad you finally noticed.
...get whichever one you feel better in, both financially and what your taste is...i would say get the 92 i guess...i'm not a big fan of the 95/96 design, i like the 97-99 better, a lot cooler
05-08-2002, 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by dmontzmax
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
05-08-2002, 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by jw2
call me what you will but what is a VTC, DIY, and VE?
call me what you will but what is a VTC, DIY, and VE?
VE= engine code for the 92-94 SEs
DIY= do it yourslef
....not too sure about the VTC repair being the "average" do it yourslef job though! unless your are Jeff92se's illegitimate child! :luagh:
05-08-2002, 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by 97BlackMax
I forgot what VTC was, but DIY = Do It Yourself, and VE was the 3rd Gen engine, similar to VQ for 4th gen
I forgot what VTC was, but DIY = Do It Yourself, and VE was the 3rd Gen engine, similar to VQ for 4th gen
Ok. Going for the 92SE. The guy just spent $2400 on a new tranny and axles. Hopefully I won't have any VTC problems. Maybe I'll move up to the 97+ models later.
Besides I work for HP and the company is real shaky about now, so I'll pocket the 3k+ I'll save from avoiding the '96.
Thanks to all for your input.
05-08-2002, 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by jim90gxe
Glad you finally noticed.
Glad you finally noticed.
well the fronts of the 95/96s are not too bad but the rear is scary 
Originally posted by dmontzmax
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
05-08-2002, 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Maximan190
i see your point on the cost of the 3rd gens but why if nissan was on the brink of bankruptcy would they go and introduce a totally different generation right then
i see your point on the cost of the 3rd gens but why if nissan was on the brink of bankruptcy would they go and introduce a totally different generation right then
05-08-2002, 08:33 PM
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Actually here is a little inside. But, it was due to the 3rd gen VE beind soooooo expensive to make. In 96 everything went downhill loss of sales, etc...(Due to them getting rid of the 3rd gen). But the altima sort of kept them alive. Then in 99 Carlos Gohsn came in the picture, and renault loaned Nissan $5 billion dollars, renault helped them, because they are a master and money management. This is what led to the newer better Max's we see now 2k+, but they still dont have the stuff the 3rd gen did, the 3rd gen is waaaaaaaay ahead of its time, trust me
05-09-2002, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by jw2
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Ok. Going for the 92SE. The guy just spent $2400 on a new tranny and axles. Hopefully I won't have any VTC problems. Maybe I'll move up to the 97+ models later.
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Ok. Going for the 92SE. The guy just spent $2400 on a new tranny and axles. Hopefully I won't have any VTC problems. Maybe I'll move up to the 97+ models later.
05-09-2002, 12:51 PM
#27
The 4th gen has front and rear sway bars. STOCK. The aftermarket ones are just way beefier.
3rd gens are way better built, have VLSD, VTCs (well, when they don't tick) I concede that. Nissan skimped with the 4th gen, but they still kept the heart of the 4DSC in it, too. The 4th gen is definitely worthy of the Maxima name.
The VQ motor is amazing. Makes you forgive the other faults or grievances. Hey, I even like my beam I feel great when I blow by alot of cars that have an independent rears, but don't have all the goods to get past my VQ. If I've lost a race, I never come out wondering, damn beam!
DW
3rd gens are way better built, have VLSD, VTCs (well, when they don't tick)
I concede that. Nissan skimped with the 4th gen, but they still kept the heart of the 4DSC in it, too. The 4th gen is definitely worthy of the Maxima name.The VQ motor is amazing. Makes you forgive the other faults or grievances. Hey, I even like my beam
I feel great when I blow by alot of cars that have an independent rears, but don't have all the goods to get past my VQ. If I've lost a race, I never come out wondering, damn beam!DW
Originally posted by dmontzmax
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
Actually the VTC's are not much to fix, if you DIY. And they do help a bunch, the VE has mad top end compared to the VQ. And dont just look at the factors, look at the car in general. Of course you will be told by the 4th gen owners to get the 96, but that is because they hate on the 3rd gen. And the majority of the owners have 4th gens. But think of this...Nissan was on the verge of bankruptcy when they were building the 4th gens, they made them cheap, to climb out of there pit. They have returned to VTC on the newer Maxima's and have skimped much less. 92 SE: Independent Rear, STOCK front sway bar, and rear sway bar, VLSD, pretty much variable everything, trust me, they stopped building the 3rd gen, because it costs soo much to build.
05-09-2002, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
get the 92.. anyone who is going to disrespect the looks of a 4th Gen needs to hang out in the 3rd Gen Forum.. go chill with your other slow buddies..
get the 92.. anyone who is going to disrespect the looks of a 4th Gen needs to hang out in the 3rd Gen Forum.. go chill with your other slow buddies..
If you feel hurt please seek help.. thats what they pay these people big money for.. to help you
05-09-2002, 01:22 PM
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Here is the rear of a 95-96 maxima:
VS.
The ALMIGHTLY 3rd gen:
The fact is that with clear/reds the 95-96 rear can look beautiful. I don't mean to hurt you 3rd genner's feelings but I can't let this smack talk go on..I have to put my foot down.
Now it's time for all the 3rd gens to go get some paxil, admit your denial, and go get yourself some real VQ power
VS.
The ALMIGHTLY 3rd gen:
The fact is that with clear/reds the 95-96 rear can look beautiful. I don't mean to hurt you 3rd genner's feelings but I can't let this smack talk go on..I have to put my foot down.
Now it's time for all the 3rd gens to go get some paxil, admit your denial, and go get yourself some real VQ power
05-09-2002, 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Nice try Craigy, but using a 4-gen w/ rims, springs and body kit is not quite the same and the stock 4x4 stock 4-gen that has all the gawdy chrome emblems.
Nice try Craigy, but using a 4-gen w/ rims, springs and body kit is not quite the same and the stock 4x4 stock 4-gen that has all the gawdy chrome emblems.
I would have never known
05-09-2002, 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Nice try Craigy, but using a 4-gen w/ rims, springs and body kit is not quite the same and the stock 4x4 stock 4-gen that has all the gawdy chrome emblems.
Nice try Craigy, but using a 4-gen w/ rims, springs and body kit is not quite the same and the stock 4x4 stock 4-gen that has all the gawdy chrome emblems.
Jeffrey, you are right in that fact..but they kept dissin the 4th gens so I had to rub it in even more...I will admit that with orange/red's and the stock 4x4 with certain rims/emblems the 95-96 can look rather ugly, but by the same token a 4th gen max has the right curves and features to make for a beautiful car with the right mods.
We used to have a '92-'94 maxima in the family..then got rid of it for a 1995 GXE in december of '94 the change in power, room, looks, technology....hmm I'll just stop here
05-09-2002, 01:38 PM
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Take a look at Jim's sig pic. Need we say more folk!?
Looks?
Room ? What?
Technology? Uh, what technology?? Like varible cam timing and varible volume intake manifolds? (like the 3.5vqs?) At least you guys have aluminum blocks. Should be great for boost! *nudge* hehe
Looks?
Room ? What?
Technology? Uh, what technology?? Like varible cam timing and varible volume intake manifolds? (like the 3.5vqs?) At least you guys have aluminum blocks. Should be great for boost! *nudge* hehe
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Damn! 3 reply's before I could even edit my post
Jeffrey, you are right in that fact..but they kept dissin the 4th gens so I had to rub it in even more...I will admit that with orange/red's and the stock 4x4 with certain rims/emblems the 95-96 can look rather ugly, but by the same token a 4th gen max has the right curves and features to make for a beautiful car with the right mods.
We used to have a '92-'94 maxima in the family..then got rid of it for a 1995 GXE in december of '94 the change in power, room, looks, technology....hmm I'll just stop here
Damn! 3 reply's before I could even edit my post
Jeffrey, you are right in that fact..but they kept dissin the 4th gens so I had to rub it in even more...I will admit that with orange/red's and the stock 4x4 with certain rims/emblems the 95-96 can look rather ugly, but by the same token a 4th gen max has the right curves and features to make for a beautiful car with the right mods.
We used to have a '92-'94 maxima in the family..then got rid of it for a 1995 GXE in december of '94 the change in power, room, looks, technology....hmm I'll just stop here
05-09-2002, 02:13 PM
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Both are nice. Still though, if you going to get one, don't get an auto.
I like the looks of the 4th gen. more and not because I have one. The 3rd gen. is too boxy IMO.
To be fair and honest, I don't think any gen. Maximas look very good. However, looks aren't that important. If it was, I think most of us wouldn't choose a Maxima in the first place right?
I like the looks of the 4th gen. more and not because I have one. The 3rd gen. is too boxy IMO.
To be fair and honest, I don't think any gen. Maximas look very good. However, looks aren't that important. If it was, I think most of us wouldn't choose a Maxima in the first place right?