VE technology vs. VQ technology
Originally posted by MaDMaX024
i have a deal to make with you.
you email me the secrets on how to get my car lighter, and i dont tell anyone
i have a deal to make with you.
you email me the secrets on how to get my car lighter, and i dont tell anyone
there is a lot of weight to be shaved from these cars, for being they started life as a luxo cruiser with some *****.
just remember don't go to far, if you get in a wreck, i can't be held respondsible
supposedly the ole ve supercar is forsale here in kc again. not sure where it is or for how much. i haven't seen the car in over a year.
some things were changed on it, the car needs help, serious help actually. thats why i will not buy it back.
this goes for everyone here.
everyone will not give out all their mods, no one ever does. racing is survival of the fittest. some don't survive, end up hitting walls and killing themselves. you get the idea. if you don't cheat you don't win. if you get caught, you're screwed
majority of my mods can be seen on here. i will say this, the car didn't make as much power as you might think. dave b actually made more hp then i did at the wheels, but i had more torque {thank you air tools and tb gods}
if the ve camp wants help, i'll be more then happy to help them, same with the vq guys, the rules are the same for each motor.
these motors can easily make 600 hp. just takes creativity and time. {no it won't do it on the bottom end}
if a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder can make 800 hp, just think, you have bigger motors.
OMG, this thread is pathetic....put it this way...why does the new Z have a VQ and not a VE35? Because the VQ is better. I've never seen a VE run a 15.3 stock. Wasn't this post really about stock for stock, is the VE better then the VQ?
My car is more than capable of hitting 15.0 maybe even 14.9xxin the 1/4 given the right driver. I can't launch and i get nervous and tend to grind 3rd down the track. and i have NO Power mods what so ever. Stock Intake, stock exhaust. I will say that i have free'd up power. but not much. If i wasnt' straped for cash i'd go Dyno tomorrow. maybe i will i dunno.
Bryan wanna come drive my car for me? just promise me that the car will be exiting the track under it's own power with all gears intact.
VQ, VE, VG, SR, KA, RB it's a Nissan engine. They are all different, they all have their advantages over the other, they are all great engines that all deserve respect. Who cares if the VQ makes more torque, who cares if the VE makes more top end. They are both bred from the same line. A line that i'm proud to be apart of and own.
-sheds a tear-
GO NISSAN !!
Bryan wanna come drive my car for me? just promise me that the car will be exiting the track under it's own power with all gears intact.
VQ, VE, VG, SR, KA, RB it's a Nissan engine. They are all different, they all have their advantages over the other, they are all great engines that all deserve respect. Who cares if the VQ makes more torque, who cares if the VE makes more top end. They are both bred from the same line. A line that i'm proud to be apart of and own.
-sheds a tear-
GO NISSAN !!
Originally posted by Slickismax
OMG, this thread is pathetic....put it this way...why does the new Z have a VQ and not a VE35? Because the VQ is better. I've never seen a VE run a 15.3 stock. Wasn't this post really about stock for stock, is the VE better then the VQ?
OMG, this thread is pathetic....put it this way...why does the new Z have a VQ and not a VE35? Because the VQ is better. I've never seen a VE run a 15.3 stock. Wasn't this post really about stock for stock, is the VE better then the VQ?
That doesnt make the VQ better, here we go again.
Originally posted by Bryan H
im not going to say where, but if you look at the honda camp on lightening you will see where i got the idea's from.
there is a lot of weight to be shaved from these cars, for being they started life as a luxo cruiser with some *****.
just remember don't go to far, if you get in a wreck, i can't be held respondsible
supposedly the ole ve supercar is forsale here in kc again. not sure where it is or for how much. i haven't seen the car in over a year.
some things were changed on it, the car needs help, serious help actually. thats why i will not buy it back.
this goes for everyone here.
everyone will not give out all their mods, no one ever does. racing is survival of the fittest. some don't survive, end up hitting walls and killing themselves. you get the idea. if you don't cheat you don't win. if you get caught, you're screwed
majority of my mods can be seen on here. i will say this, the car didn't make as much power as you might think. dave b actually made more hp then i did at the wheels, but i had more torque {thank you air tools and tb gods}
if the ve camp wants help, i'll be more then happy to help them, same with the vq guys, the rules are the same for each motor.
these motors can easily make 600 hp. just takes creativity and time. {no it won't do it on the bottom end}
if a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder can make 800 hp, just think, you have bigger motors.
im not going to say where, but if you look at the honda camp on lightening you will see where i got the idea's from.
there is a lot of weight to be shaved from these cars, for being they started life as a luxo cruiser with some *****.
just remember don't go to far, if you get in a wreck, i can't be held respondsible
supposedly the ole ve supercar is forsale here in kc again. not sure where it is or for how much. i haven't seen the car in over a year.
some things were changed on it, the car needs help, serious help actually. thats why i will not buy it back.
this goes for everyone here.
everyone will not give out all their mods, no one ever does. racing is survival of the fittest. some don't survive, end up hitting walls and killing themselves. you get the idea. if you don't cheat you don't win. if you get caught, you're screwed
majority of my mods can be seen on here. i will say this, the car didn't make as much power as you might think. dave b actually made more hp then i did at the wheels, but i had more torque {thank you air tools and tb gods}
if the ve camp wants help, i'll be more then happy to help them, same with the vq guys, the rules are the same for each motor.
these motors can easily make 600 hp. just takes creativity and time. {no it won't do it on the bottom end}
if a 2.0 liter 4 cylinder can make 800 hp, just think, you have bigger motors.
Originally posted by Slickismax
OMG, this thread is pathetic....put it this way...why does the new Z have a VQ and not a VE35? Because the VQ is better. I've never seen a VE run a 15.3 stock. Wasn't this post really about stock for stock, is the VE better then the VQ?
OMG, this thread is pathetic....put it this way...why does the new Z have a VQ and not a VE35? Because the VQ is better. I've never seen a VE run a 15.3 stock. Wasn't this post really about stock for stock, is the VE better then the VQ?
i have seen it run a 15.0 or 15.1, but no 15.3
the vq is a good motor, i wouldn't consider it to be the best one. the VE lent its technology for the vq.
the ve was thrown together and never refind. the vq was refind for a couple years before it was put into anything
as for saving weight kids.
bumpers, door beams, trunk, and other places.
Originally posted by Sith
My car is more than capable of hitting 15.0 maybe even 14.9xxin the 1/4 given the right driver. I can't launch and i get nervous and tend to grind 3rd down the track. and i have NO Power mods what so ever. Stock Intake, stock exhaust. I will say that i have free'd up power. but not much. If i wasnt' straped for cash i'd go Dyno tomorrow. maybe i will i dunno.
Bryan wanna come drive my car for me? just promise me that the car will be exiting the track under it's own power with all gears intact.
My car is more than capable of hitting 15.0 maybe even 14.9xxin the 1/4 given the right driver. I can't launch and i get nervous and tend to grind 3rd down the track. and i have NO Power mods what so ever. Stock Intake, stock exhaust. I will say that i have free'd up power. but not much. If i wasnt' straped for cash i'd go Dyno tomorrow. maybe i will i dunno.
Bryan wanna come drive my car for me? just promise me that the car will be exiting the track under it's own power with all gears intact.
You haven't run a 15.0 or any kind of 14-second pass so let's not argue about the could've/should've/would've. It would be like me saying that my Max can run 13s. 98mph trap speeds are easy 13s, the problem is traction and I don't see myself hitting a 1.90 60 foot without slicks. People would slap me around if I said I "could" run 13s.Dave
Originally posted by MaDMaX024
i dont have a chance right now, but later after i get home from work i'll search clubsi.com for tips...before i do that, just one question, are these weight shaving mods free?(i.e. DIY with home grown stuff..i dont know)
i dont have a chance right now, but later after i get home from work i'll search clubsi.com for tips...before i do that, just one question, are these weight shaving mods free?(i.e. DIY with home grown stuff..i dont know)
well lets see.
89.50 MPH is what i finished at
wanna know the E/T?
17.09
don't ask what happen. Lets just say i rolled off the line about 20 feet before i even started going again. And it's now woulda shoulda coulda, it's i can't drive and anyone that knows the VE knows that it is capable to run 15.0 with the mods i have and power free up's. Don't blame the machine blame the person behind the wheel. Matt's seen some of my runs and all my timeslips. But i've compared my times to others timeslips and it's very well capable of 15.0
14.9 is pushing it.
15.1? definetly.
I'll put some1 in it that can drive next time at the track and we'll see what it runs.
And what happen when i ran was when i shot off the line i yanked it out of 1st.
89.50 MPH is what i finished at
wanna know the E/T?
17.09
don't ask what happen. Lets just say i rolled off the line about 20 feet before i even started going again. And it's now woulda shoulda coulda, it's i can't drive and anyone that knows the VE knows that it is capable to run 15.0 with the mods i have and power free up's. Don't blame the machine blame the person behind the wheel. Matt's seen some of my runs and all my timeslips. But i've compared my times to others timeslips and it's very well capable of 15.0
14.9 is pushing it.
15.1? definetly.
I'll put some1 in it that can drive next time at the track and we'll see what it runs.
And what happen when i ran was when i shot off the line i yanked it out of 1st.
Originally posted by Maximamike
Hmm.. if there are no dyno's, and you seem to have no experience with the VE, what are you basing your assumptions on? **** you've heard on the board? Doesn't matter to me, I can respect the pro's and cons of each engine, and at the end of the day, its only a car? Oh well, its must be nice to know that the fastest Maxima is nor a VQ, nor a VE. Must our loathing of high technology be used to make one self feel better? LOL.
Darkside of Maxima modding soon to be revealed to ya'll by me?
Don't count on it.
Hmm.. if there are no dyno's, and you seem to have no experience with the VE, what are you basing your assumptions on? **** you've heard on the board? Doesn't matter to me, I can respect the pro's and cons of each engine, and at the end of the day, its only a car? Oh well, its must be nice to know that the fastest Maxima is nor a VQ, nor a VE. Must our loathing of high technology be used to make one self feel better? LOL.
Darkside of Maxima modding soon to be revealed to ya'll by me?
Don't count on it.
If it made 190TQ@4000rpms and held it to redline, it would be making a heck of alot more peak HP than 190. I guess Nissan must have "underrated" the VE engine right

I'm going by what the post starter said.
Oh and VQ power

I AM A VE HATER BECAUSE I AM JUST STATING SOME FACTS...
dmontzmax...why is it that anytime anyone states a fact about the VQ, you reply and say, "thats a nice OPINION, but...". I don't know why those stupid engineers at Nissan didn't put the VE in the 4th gen. I guess the Nissan engineers were on crack because the VE is the best Nissan motor ever and will be until the next millenium. Forget it, I'm buying an S4. Does the VE have 5 valves per cylinder?
Originally posted by Slickismax
dmontzmax...why is it that anytime anyone states a fact about the VQ, you reply and say, "thats a nice OPINION, but...". I don't know why those stupid engineers at Nissan didn't put the VE in the 4th gen. I guess the Nissan engineers were on crack because the VE is the best Nissan motor ever and will be until the next millenium. Forget it, I'm buying an S4. Does the VE have 5 valves per cylinder?
dmontzmax...why is it that anytime anyone states a fact about the VQ, you reply and say, "thats a nice OPINION, but...". I don't know why those stupid engineers at Nissan didn't put the VE in the 4th gen. I guess the Nissan engineers were on crack because the VE is the best Nissan motor ever and will be until the next millenium. Forget it, I'm buying an S4. Does the VE have 5 valves per cylinder?
No his reply is always...
YOUR JUST A VE HATER
Wrong, with all the cutbacks, anyone could afford the 4th gen
Why do you think for a second car I looked for a 3rd gen??? If I get a new Max, I am skipping the 4th, and going for a 5th. Hate on the VE, I really dont give a ish, and I dont hate the VQ, ask any SoCal member that knows me(Which is atleast 30+) and they will tell you I do not hate on VQs. They know my point. And it started way back, from all of the 4th gen owners looking down. But when the facts are put in the spotlight, it turns into a fight. My view is this: I DONT HATE THE VQ, IT IS A GREAT ENGINE, But...
IT IS NOT SUPERIOR TO THE VE. THEY ARE PRETTY EQUAL AS YOU CAN SEE.
Why do you think for a second car I looked for a 3rd gen??? If I get a new Max, I am skipping the 4th, and going for a 5th. Hate on the VE, I really dont give a ish, and I dont hate the VQ, ask any SoCal member that knows me(Which is atleast 30+) and they will tell you I do not hate on VQs. They know my point. And it started way back, from all of the 4th gen owners looking down. But when the facts are put in the spotlight, it turns into a fight. My view is this: I DONT HATE THE VQ, IT IS A GREAT ENGINE, But...
IT IS NOT SUPERIOR TO THE VE. THEY ARE PRETTY EQUAL AS YOU CAN SEE.
this is the same argument that always happens
might as well be a chevy Vs ford debate.
a maxima is a maxima, all of them are great. weather or not it has a ve, vg, vq, L28, or a LT1{seen it done, its not pretty}
the basis of this argument absolutely screwy. my opinion, this thread was created to seperate both camps of maxima owners. which has been slowly been happening over the years.
granted back in my hay day of maxima modding the ve was one of the top dogs at the time. times change, technology gets better, but the physical theroy of making power will always be the same.
how about the VQ boys and the VE boys call a trouce. this thread will end up locked because someone will get ****ed off at someone else. and stupid crap will just stem from it, and another stupid "clique" will start like the other ones i have seen on here.
you all are on one board, you all have a collective interest. share it. stop being petty about motors.
and for those who think i am a VQ hater. try again, i drive a VQ on a daily basis, 98 se to be exact....
might as well be a chevy Vs ford debate.
a maxima is a maxima, all of them are great. weather or not it has a ve, vg, vq, L28, or a LT1{seen it done, its not pretty}
the basis of this argument absolutely screwy. my opinion, this thread was created to seperate both camps of maxima owners. which has been slowly been happening over the years.
granted back in my hay day of maxima modding the ve was one of the top dogs at the time. times change, technology gets better, but the physical theroy of making power will always be the same.
how about the VQ boys and the VE boys call a trouce. this thread will end up locked because someone will get ****ed off at someone else. and stupid crap will just stem from it, and another stupid "clique" will start like the other ones i have seen on here.
you all are on one board, you all have a collective interest. share it. stop being petty about motors.
and for those who think i am a VQ hater. try again, i drive a VQ on a daily basis, 98 se to be exact....
Bryan,
I would love to call a truce. All I want is for the 4th gen owners to respect the 3rd gen, and not look down on it, like it is an old POS. I am just fed up with the 3rd gen, not being able to compete on the same level. It would be like the 5th gen owners calling the 4th gen an old POS. I know there are a few 4th gen owners that now respect the VE, since this post. And a trip in it at Dromo 1. Truce? Respect?
I would love to call a truce. All I want is for the 4th gen owners to respect the 3rd gen, and not look down on it, like it is an old POS. I am just fed up with the 3rd gen, not being able to compete on the same level. It would be like the 5th gen owners calling the 4th gen an old POS. I know there are a few 4th gen owners that now respect the VE, since this post. And a trip in it at Dromo 1. Truce? Respect?
Donald, just let it go.
It's the freaking internet, where people pretend to be who they aren't, and they think everything they own is better than the other guy's toys. That will NEVER change. just deal with it and move on.
Frankly, you car is older and worth less than a 4th gen. It will be talked down as a POS. there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
Just put your ***** back in your pants, turn around, and walk away from the computer. There's no need to pretend they're bigger and hairier than anyone else's here.
It's the freaking internet, where people pretend to be who they aren't, and they think everything they own is better than the other guy's toys. That will NEVER change. just deal with it and move on.
Frankly, you car is older and worth less than a 4th gen. It will be talked down as a POS. there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
Just put your ***** back in your pants, turn around, and walk away from the computer. There's no need to pretend they're bigger and hairier than anyone else's here.
alright, the fastest all motor VQ i have seen is what? 14.2?
wowies
fastest all motor ve? 14.3
the point of this comparison is null and really has no freaking point at all.
some of you act like kids, "my cars better, you can't afford a 4th gen, the ve will never make the power a vq can"
the people who say this seem to be a little shallow and a wee bit stuck up for their own good.
get off the high horse.
you obviously know very little about the motors at question.
this topic started out very good, then went to crap.
wowies
fastest all motor ve? 14.3
the point of this comparison is null and really has no freaking point at all.
some of you act like kids, "my cars better, you can't afford a 4th gen, the ve will never make the power a vq can"
the people who say this seem to be a little shallow and a wee bit stuck up for their own good.
get off the high horse.
you obviously know very little about the motors at question.
this topic started out very good, then went to crap.
I got it, but don't have any real input on the subject. I've never done the job myself.
As for my stuff, it's still in process.. that's all I can really tell ya there. same as last time we talked.
As for my stuff, it's still in process.. that's all I can really tell ya there. same as last time we talked.
its not that they don't repect it, its just simply out with the old, in with the new....just look at the VE as being the stepping stone to Nissan's award winning VQ motor! just like as the VG is probably one of Nissan's most "used" and popular motors back in the late 80's and 90's, it has been replaced......and the only reason the VE gets no props is because majority of the board is VQ and VQ-K....Dmontz you're taking the whole "motor war" a little to much to the heart
...both sides will argue theirs is better, theres no way you're gonna get a guy who drives and loves his 4th gen as much as you love your 3rd gen to agreee that your motor is better than his!
so can't we just lock this, its going no where!
and all of you remember VG OWNZ ALL...without it you'd be driving a no torque having Accord cause there'd be no 4DSC
...both sides will argue theirs is better, theres no way you're gonna get a guy who drives and loves his 4th gen as much as you love your 3rd gen to agreee that your motor is better than his! so can't we just lock this, its going no where!
and all of you remember VG OWNZ ALL...without it you'd be driving a no torque having Accord cause there'd be no 4DSC





Bryan, email me your secrets as well, and I will email you mine.