Are we close enough to extend the GD or are we way short on the 50 people.

 

The problem with that, is that those of us who are interested now, may not be interested down the road. If this gets postponed, to say, late this year, I would probably no longer be interested. I am planning on a new car middle of next year. About when I will hit 100k miles.

I really want angel eyes, but not just for six months. But that is just me. Not sure where everyone else stands.

Jimmy

 

A few points on why I think it's a lack of interest right now:

1) Credit card bills from the holidays are arriving about now.
2) When W-2's come and members see/or get a refund many orders may come.
3) There are no current pictures of a Maxima(as far as my knowledge) with the lights. What may look good on IS300 & BMW may not look good on ours. I think the lights look way better on the IS300 than BMW.
4) Some are scared to open up the $1000+ HID's including myself.
5) Most important: It's too damn cold outside to be doing this. Its about 25 degrees outside in B'more right now with sleet/rain. Once it warms up more orders will come.

Have faith in the Org. After all of this, my payment was mailed out today.

 

1) I agree
2) I don't think that matters much
3) Also not true, we have one in this thread
4) Are you sure, even the HID ones from Lexus aren't that expensive. But we'll have pros do it and document it.
5) I agree, but not completely. How would you explain that my sales are equally steady now as in September (generally one of the more pleasant temperature months).

In any case, I completely appreciate your trust. It's ONLY 50, you won't have to pay the additional fee for the kit until at least a month goes by.

 

5) Most important: It's too damn cold outside to be doing this. Its about 25 degrees outside in B'more right now with sleet/rain. Once it warms up more orders will come.

well think of it liket his. you deposit now, they get made, figure about a month. deposit, then sent out, gives about mid march at most, which is when the warm weather comes around

or

wait till march or april, month for production, mid may to mid june arrival.

so waht if it gets done now. we won't be gtting them till the warm weather arrives. plus, i know a good amount of people who buy things over the winter just to have them in their hand so that when the warm weather comes around, they're ready to install.

 

exactly!

We are still where we were.
I'm going to wait until 20 days from the first payment. Why? Because then I can just refund you the money via paypal automatically.

Hurry up guys

 

I've stated before that I am very interested in this GD. Can one of you gusy finally post how close we are to 50 deposits? That way we can see whether or not we will actually make it or if we are just extending the inevitable failure of this GD!! Number please!

Deac

 

we have 12

 

you have truly got to be kidding
what kinda bul**** is that
this is just ****ing great
i really like how people beg for this **** and then don't do anything to purchase it. then you whine about how hard it is to do. or what else, complain cause one hastn' been done yet. how do you think one gets done. when people like us assist in getting it made. do you think the IS300 would have angel eyes if it werent' for the first 50 to put money ahead, or m3 style mirrors on 4th gens.

i think he's already said he's got peoplet hat are willing to do the install. hell, i'm in NY and i'm willing to open up the headlights for anyone. but grown some ***** and help in the development of these.

i'm really heated if after 3000+ views, 12 people spotted out money. how many ****in posts did we get on angel eyes, and i finally get it all set up, all for nothing....

 

I feel your pain. I know because I have about 5 things to install once it warms up. The crazy part is a lot of these same guys and girls will complain about how much aftermarket stuff is out there for Honda and say that Nissan doesn't get any respect.

 

But you Maxima Enthusiasts should make em yourself.

Me and My friend make em on countless hours with the dremel on some local hondas, its really not that hard with cylindar CURTAIN rods and some time.
Oh, you cant find the write up. Search.

Or> you all could pass out some flyers at the bar to get 50 people for this so called $5500.00 mold

Think: they made it from a perfect curtain rod design. put it in a casting mix, waited took it out, and now pours a clear plastic acrylic in_side the mold. But the Mold Costs $5500.00

I wish i would have though of this last Month when the first angel eye post was released on the honda forum.

 

The funny thing is that I wasn't even one who posted when you were initially gauging interest because obviously there was tremendous spark. This is truely unbelievable. I would not blame Matt <UmNitza> one bit if he decided not to mess with this in the future, although I believe he really wants to. All of your and Matts' time/effort is greatly appreciated! (at least by 12 of us)

Todd

 

thanks for your opinion but we are trying to get this going and dont need your sarcastic responses. Come on guys, its only $50 geesh.

 

I just placed my deposit.

Hopefully this goes through...

 

Yes, done David A. to the list.

 

seriously..what the hell happened to the 24 ppl who were willing to pay at around $160+ Here

 

Eugene A.

14

 

so what is the number at now?? can we pay a bit extra to get this going?? Can everyone go to there local regional forums and start harassing others to do this?? come on guys. I for one have no idea how i will even install this but i will worry about that later but the important thing is that i will have it.

 

I'll give you til Feb 12th.
That's the last day we can easily refund all the money back to you without a headache.

That's 2 weeks.

 

bump,so you guys dont forget what a great thing we have going on here. Please take the time and read this thread, the price is not bad at all. I am sure that you could probably find some kit that does it for cheaper but not at this level of quality. Remember that you didnt follow the sheep and buy some crap civic, so why would you put some cheap civic quality angel eyes into you Max?? This kit i done right and if you are afraid to install it , i am sure that you could find someone in your area that would be willing to do it for you. DONT MISS THIS OPPORTUNITY.

 

These pics of the IS300 were taken just 2 hours ago.

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT right? Remember the pics in the beginning? Are these brighter...UH HUH!!!!

 

 

"Go Umnitza!!!" Let'em know whats up. BTW: What has become with this group deal??? Is it a no go??? This thread was supposed to be for "DEPOSITS ONLY" and not ask a zillion ?'s... "nice pics of them IS300's"

 

I am looking at refunding y'all the money.

This is not fun.

I'm not here to beg.

The product speaks for itself. It's HIGH quality, brighter than anything, and is backed by a quality company with quality employees.

I'll hope that once you've all paid off your cc's you'll realize that for your March shows, you want to buy these NOW, otherwise, you'll miss half the show season.

 

How soon will you be refunding deposits???

 

This is BS I agree with POLO…this never fails on the board. Everyone wants! But when time comes to come up with the money it’s a problem. I for one will be willing to pay more to see this kit go thought. Let me know!

 

same here, i am willing to pay more to be in a exclusive club, those who dont talk crap but actually put up. you guys are disappointing, i just got my max three weeks ago and i cant believe that for that small an amount of money that you guys wont jump on this deal.

 

is there any way the people interested could get these? Sorry to keep repeating the question, but if you could give a est. price on getting them made for the ~15 it'd be appreciated.

 

We NEED $5K to make a run of a minimum of 50 kits.

It's simple mathematics.

We are NOT a large company that can afford to take risks that equal great loss.

We can easily make these - but what this is proving to us is that while everyone says they want them, they are willing to try the "Home Depot Blinds" trick first wasting their money in the process.

That means that 25 people can each contribute $200.
As of now, I'm not sure why it's that hard to just "jump in".

So, on Feb 12th, we'll refund all the orders if we don't at least come "close".

BTW - if a supporting vendor would like to step up and do this - that's fine as well.

That is - you can pay for 10 kits that will be yours exclusively.

The other angle which is happening is that people that took the initiative to pay $50 on IS300.net and then received their kits and sold the car are actually selling their kits for MORE than they bought them.

 

I am willing to put another $200.

JimmyH

 

I sent you an e-mail but just in case you don't get it ... what alternatives beside PayPal & money order do I have? I hate PayPal and I don't have time to go to the bank to get a money order ... are you set up to take AMEX?

 

I'm sorry to see this deal is not going to happen, but I knew it wouldn't. I've been here long enough to know there was no way in hell you'd get 50-people together. 20-25 Max withOUT a full prototype version. I know a complete prototype is not possible due to the nature of how these are made. However, I think it would have gone a LONG way, if you would have simply siliconed the rings to your broken housing for demonstration purposes. The clips are the hold up, right?

Anyways, my question is why do you first of all want $50x50people= $2500, yet you say you need $5K? If all you needed was $2500 to get the mold made, then you could have EASILY collected $100 from 25-people to reach the same $2500. Hell I'd even say you could have asked for payment in full from the 12 or so people you have on your list and had the $2500.

The biggest problem on this board is that 99% of it's members are followers NOT pioneers. Most aren't willing to take a risk withOUT knowing what the final product looks like.

Thank you very much for attempting to help out the Maxima community AGAIN with this, but until there is a working prototype it's not going to happen. Once people see these kits in action however, you'd be surprised how many would be jumping all over this. It's happened time and time again on this board.

 

i mentioned this before....him collecting the 2500 was just to be nice...he'd cover the other half to complete the $5k needed for the mold. in turn, he would make his half back when the 50 people paid the rest of the $130, and that would also cover for the rest of the pieces (brackets, light boxes, rings, bubls, fiber optics, etc...)

so yeah, 12 people could have paid up front, and we would have reached 2500, but then he loses out 2500 from his pocket with that other half, and on top of that he loses on the costs for the other pieces. this makes his loss shoot up to ~$7k. again, he COULD do that, but it's up to him whether he wants to risk that. and he doesn't and i don't blame him.

yeah, some pictures would have been nice, and i plan on continuing this project myself, although i see this costing me more than anything, but whatever, when it's all done, we'll have something.

i believe it's the money involved that is the big hold up, and he is not fully convinced of the true interest, especially from 1000 posts saying "that looks cool".

 

I see your point.

However, I feel it's all in the numbers. He can charge whatever he wants for these things and I'm sure people will pay it once they are completed. I'd easily pay $250 for the final product if the quality is what he claims.

So, again the 50-people($2500) was the problem that threw this deal away, when he could have asked for 25-people to put up $100 deposit. He could charge more for the final product, say $250, and still cover most of his costs.

Maybe that's asking too much here also, but I can't imagine 50-people going for this here. Just not likely.

 

There sure seemed to be interest a couple months ago when the thread started in the 5th gen forum. I guess everybody was just full of hot air

They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk. (Cheesy, I know.)

If this falls through, isnt there a place on the internet that sells the Hella kits from the 5-series? Maybe we could pool our ingenuity and come up with a way to mount them. Possibly get a group buy together there.

Not to rain on your parade, Umnitza, because I am sure I speak for all of us when I say we greatly appreciate your efforts. It is not your fault at all, and you are the one who is suffering from this. If it is worth anything, you can keep my $50 as compensation, however small it may be, for your efforts.

Jimmy

 

i plan on gettin a kit anyway and working with it to get it fitted, so for all it's worth, if anyone is planning on buying anything, let me see what i can do for now and as time progresses, i will update everyone on my status.

believe me, this will not get undone...i've waited long enough to get this far, and i'm not about to give up.

 

There still is interest, TRUST ME. However, you are not going to get 50-people HERE to do anything at once. Except, maybe b!tch and moan about Nissan paint or service of course. Most of those "full of hot air" members would jump on this in a heart beat if there was a completed set on a MAXIMA to view. However, that's apparently not possible, so you're asking 50-people to front money for a product that they have no idea what the end result would look like. I'd say from this post there are ~15-members that are willing to 'risk' it. However, the others that are willing are hesitant about installing the kit themselves withOUT anyone having tried it.

So, my advice is for umnitza is:
1)Figure out another approach that requires less than 50-people.
2)Silicone/super glue those bad boys to the headlamp for an approximate idea of what it looks like and show the required installation(ie drilling the housing, opening/sealing it, etc..).
3)Put together some kind of ghetto kit that allows people to install these withOUT the clips.
4)Head back to the IS3 or BMW forum where the members have some ballz.

 

This is a double-edged sword.

1) 50 people indicates a market. With only 20 people paying, that indicates enthusiasm. Which is nice, but it's not going to keep me in business to continue to support you.

2) 50 people indicates at or barely losing money for us. The assumption is that after the initial 50 - at least another 50 will want the kit.

Hope this video helps make up some more minds - I'm willing to do the following:

Allow a little longer for all the deposits to come in, IF, you all accept a refund (if it all falls through after a month) for $50-1.5%(from Paypal). See, when you pay $50, we actually get 2425 from 50 people.

10MB IS300 VIDEO CLICK HERE

 

I’m with Polo & JimmyH, I am willing do what it takes for this kit to be produced. If it’s exclusive to a few buyer then so be it.

 

even if it means $400 each for 20 participants?