Hopefully I can get the unit on the car, tune it up correctly, and fit some 15" wheels by then. lol

I might build another car though. Would keep the maxima as a daily driver. We'll see when I get back.

 

, I already talked to my buddy about couch arrangements, he said it's all good, so I have a place to stay, now all I need is time.

I still want another ride in the shark though...

 

Hmmmm....... maybe I should go to Tulsa? I was thinking about making that event if I get the Shark working before then.

 

Count me in! I might be watching, but hopefully my car will be good to go by then too.

 

Some odds and ends - re-plumbed the forward fuel rail, 'cause the ID nozzles won't clear the right side of the return hose - so now it's better. While I was under the hood, I took off the KramRam/MAF and put back the HotAirRam/MAF. Funny - the KramRam only had a few small buglets in the screen, after driving around hard for a couple of weeks. Blew them out w/Electronic cleaner.








New mini-battery waiting installation - hope this works.

 

I'm re-thinking using hard lines for direct port nitrous, mostly because I don't have much room, so I got an idea while at the ADRL 1/8 mile monster show on Saturday - nylon lines.





Both of these cars have two stages plumbed with nylon lines - the upper banks. I looked up using nylon lines online and find that nitrous bikes use 1/8" nylon and compression fittings on funnel jets.. I found where to get 3/16" nylon line w/960psi strength, and have a couple of funnel jets on order to test the concept. Anyone else tried nylon lines on the car or bike? It looks quite common at the big-boy level.

Speaking of them guys, here's a couple of big-boy CNC heads and flow numbers.








These guys are insane! Speaking of, here's a monster truck and it's reverse-mounted engine.

 

615 cfm........ 0_0

 

If anyone knows nitrous, it's those guys!

615cfm on the intake side!!!!
That's the potential for huge amounts of power.

Like a lot of the top guys say, the power is in the head.

 

Engines are just air pumps - the better they breathe, the more power they can make. But dang, those heads were big in all dimensions - a pair of them have more aluminum than my entire engine.

I've been conversing with IPT - the Jersey boys that build transmissions - and they can make me a 4000-4500 stall torque converter! "Sure, just ship us a stock converter, and we'll set it up as loose as possible". If I can launch at 4500, I'll be on the cams and spraying when I launch - that makes me sweat and shake just thinking about it. The 2800-stall Edge worked great with the previous engine, but the new engine doesn't start making power until 4500, so this could be a perfect match. I've gotta go see if I still have a stock converter in storage - if so, it's going to Jersey.

 

I hear rumors of someone with a 6k stall for our cars??? This possible or is it just a silly rumor?

 

Thats awesome! Hopefully you can find a stock converter.
It's possible, don't think anyones had a converter made to stall that high yet.

 

I'll check my warehouse tomorrow - I think there's one in there with the last Edge converter, but I can always buy one for cheap.

A 6K TC? Haven't heard anything.... and driving it would be very interesting.

 

I wanna send my tranny to IPT for da manwel.

4000-4500 should be plenty stall even if you dont start making power till 4500.

 

They have a good sale going on right now - for automatics... Check in "Specials". http://www.importperformancetrans.com/

I think I'd be happier with a 4K stall. With the Alty IM, there's better power at 4K - and with spray, it should be good to launch on. I gotta build one direct port stage to test that, though.

 

The 4k should work pretty well for your car!

 

Here's my idea for direct port injection. Instead of hard lines, use semi-rigid high pressure nylon lines for fuel and nitrous. I have two 50' rolls on order, one red and one blue. For the first stage, I have 4 4-port NOS distribution blocks(and four more in the mail), and a set of Induction Performance nozzles and several sets of solenoids and funnel jets. What I don't have is the right length of compression nut to couple the nylon line and ferrule to a funnel jet into the nozzles. The standard 3/16" compression nut is 3/8" long, and I need one 1/2" long to draw down on the ferrule. Example of a motorcycle wet kit with long nuts:



I have a message in to this company to see if I can buy 25 of these nuts or at least where I can find some. Six nozzles per stage, two stages, 2 lines per nozzle = 24 lines total, plus the eight total NOS distribution blocks and four solenoids - plus one for purge - adds up to a bunch of stuff to mount on top of a valve cover. I would really prefer that I don't have to take off all 24 hard lines to change jets on one stage.



Oh, and IPT will take my used Edge converter and modify it for me - I think 4000 stall is best for me. Stalling up to 4000 and going right into spray will be - interesting.....

 

Hopefully it hooks on the 24.5's.

 

They probably won't well on launch - so these are next:


http://www.mandhtires.com/store.php?...on=show_detail

At least these still mount on 8" rims...

 

Nice, those should work well!

 

No answer from the Cold xxxxx shop .... now I gotta figure it out! Bummer...

 

Hey Harold!

The shark is looking great man! As always, i'm very impressed with this!! I can't wait to see those hp and track numbers soon

 

Well, look at you - a 3.5 swap and EU and respectable track times. It's been a while. This car has been a while in the making, too.....

 

Figure out what you're gonna do with the lines?

 

Working on it..... I've got some samples of parts on order - ferrules, tube nuts, nylon hose, other stuff, trying to find a combination that will work on the nozzles using flare jets. I need a good plumber.

I drilled and tapped a couple of holes for IS nozzles in a strip of Kydex, after it was marked for the spacing of the UIM port runners. Installing two nozzles per runner is going to be tight, but I think it will work. I'm still working on the last piece of the puzzle - figuring out the way to connect the lines to the nozzle.

Oh - the Edge torque converter is on the way to IPT for an upgrade in stall speed.....

 

I'm sure you'll be able to figure it out!

The new converter is gonna be awesome. As long as you can get the tires to hold, your car should be able to pull some nasty 60fts.

 

Actually, I did figure out the whole setup using nylon lines and funnel jets this morning. I took a couple of pix to post later, but I discovered what tube nuts and sleeves can do for you. I found a 50%-off bargain on four more new NOS distribution blocks, that showed up last night, so when the red and blue 960psi tubing arrives, along with another bucket of nuts and sleeves and "olives" I might have enough parts to install two stages....

I had contractors here again today, repairing more of the house, and our Texans showed up last night, so not much progress on the car.

After thinking about it, I think 4000 is high enough stall to make full-power launches interesting, but the car will still be streetable, if a little weird just driving around. The converter will still lock when in 4th gear on the highway, so my goal of keeping the car intact and not gutting it like a fish can still be reached.

 

Whatchu talkin' bout willis?

 

Ha! That's our oldest daughter and grandson, living in Plano TX. Did you feel left out?

 

Here's how the nylon lines are going to work with the direct-port injection stages.

Two IS nozzles mocked up for the UIM strip:

 

Then some of the plumbing details, where the tube nuts and sleeves connect everything together to the funnel jets:




test assembly:



And how there will be six fuel hoses for every two NOS distribution blocks, and the same for nitrous hoses.



Of course, I don't have the final layout yet, but two distribution blocks tied to one fuel solenoid and two more tied to a nitrous solenoid and mounted on top of the first pair will make up one 6-nozzle stage, and another similar pile of parts will make up the second stage. All of this will mount on a 14" x 8" aluminum plate which will mount to the top bolts on the front valve cover with a hinge, and be secured to the bottom two bolts normally. Removing the bottom bolts will allow the entire assembly to swing upwards on the hinge and allow access to the coils and plugs. The nylon lines makes it much easier to change jets - no bending of hard lines or removing 24 hard lines to change six jets.

 

I'm really liking the nylon lines. Gonna make life so much easier!

Looking good!

 

so where will the jets be located if not in the nozzles

 

The funnel jets will be in the nozzles - look at the first photo in post #390, up above. The funnel jet works just fine with the nylon line and tube nuts and sleeves. It just took me a while to figure this out. I haven't purchased the production nylon line for nitrous yet, since I need a line rated at a much higher pressure than the fuel lines. I did find one, that's clear, not blue, with 960PSI working pressure and 2500psi burst rating. That should do. I found an idea on how to dye the clear nylon, using RIT dye you get at local stores.

I'm tempted to convert the car over to E85 fuel right now, to see how it works, and maybe save the costs of race fuel. I already have everything in place to do that, I think.

EDIT: Anyone know what the A/F should be for E85?

 

You're gonna have to get the emanage working in order to run the car on E85. An extra step, but the car will run so much better if you can get it tuned.

I found this thread on honda-tech regarding E85 a/f ratios:
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2225545

 

You don't know the power of The TAPE! A/F tuning is simple, over a wide range.

I went out looking for E85 stations and found two fairly soon - both stated that the fuel contained "at least 70% ethanol" This is not good enough to race on. The web lists of stations selling E85 are obsolete as soon as they are posted, I think. All the local outlets are "Under New Management" and I can't find any with the programmable E85 pumps. Sigh....

I wanted to mix my own, but I couldn't find bulk ethanol at any reasonable price. Hardware stores prices for denatured are close to $20/gal - VP 109 is $12.50/gal. Any ideas? OBTW, nice link...

 

http://e85.drivealternatives.com/KS/Topeka

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/locator/stations/

http://www.ksgrains.com/ethanol/e85.html

Maybe that will help?

 

Thanks for the information, but....

1. I looked at that map earlier today before driving around tonight- all the stations have changed owners and pumps. Capital Oil is a private card station - I need to drive further to check it out. There is a Phillips 66 station with E85 that isn't on any list. There are two more stations on the east side of the county to check out.

2. Same.

3. Same.

 

Wack, I looked online but I didn't find much on buying in bulk. Might be easier to find the local distributor and see if they will sell you some drums of it(pretty sure they dont sell to the public but worth a shot).

 

Good point - all these stations must get it somewhere, right? I need an insider for this.

EDIT: I just found something that might help.. The problem is that I might buy E85 or E70 but I won't know the difference. If I could measure the actual percentage of ethanol in a load, then if it's low, I could add hardware store ethanol to push it up to 85%. How to measure it? turns out there is a way for E10:

http://www.fuel-testers.com/

Maybe there is something for testing E85 out there? EDIT: Why yes, there is:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/alterna...nalyzer-2.html

http://iqlearningsystems.com/ethanol...ds/E85test.pdf

 

Have you talked to Andre at Edge Racing about a higher stall than you currently have? Is IPT going to make a 4K stall with the stock 10.5" cover? Is that a 4K stall rating for NA or a nitrous launch? A 4K stall 10.5" TC under a nitrous launch should still be pretty efficient. But if you weren't spraying nitrous, building a 4K stall for NA purposes will hurt whp.

I currently have a 3500 stall from Edge Racing with the 10.5" cover. But it's not as efficient at laying down HP as the 3K that is so popular. But that is all motor. If I sprayed out of the hole, I'd flash to about 4K with this converter and my trap speed probably wouldn't have suffered so badly.

Right now, I am working with Andre at Edge Racing to build what we believe to be the world's first 9.5" torque converter for a Maxima. I am hoping to be able to have a much more efficient TC while being able to flash to 4500rpm all motor with only 275whp. But if you sprayed a little nitrous with this TC, it should flash well above 5K.

I really hope to have this 9.5" TC prototype installed and tested in my Maxima by this Fall. We hope it will flash to 4500 and be just as efficient as the 3K 10.5" TC from Edge Racing. Then, if I need a higher stall than 4500, it'll be easy to make it looser in exchange for trap speeds.

With my cams and gutted intake manifold, my engine doesn't wake up until 4100rpm. So I need to be able to launch at 4100+ to be happy.