Something I'm thinking about doing...
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Somebody used to make an aluminum pulley for the FWD 95-2001 Maxima that had a ring with the four timing tabs for the 3.0. There were both an undersize and regular size pulley available. Seems like this pulley had a nice smooth front area where a timing wheel could be attached, but I need to search for it.
Anyone know if the stock damper has a rubber ring inside? I think it does, but... ?
Anyone know if the stock damper has a rubber ring inside? I think it does, but... ?
http://www.cosmoracing.com/productlist.asp?cid=199
Ralco?
http://www.ralcorz.com/customer_make...hp?mode=search
I remember reading a while back.. somebody made an aluminum pulley that was stock diameter... just can't remember.. Been suffering from CRS (can't remember shyte)
EDIT :
RalcoRZ
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...ock_Size/15295
and Stillen
http://www.stillen.com/product/pulle...0337-8102.html
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Cosmo?
http://www.cosmoracing.com/productlist.asp?cid=199
Ralco?
http://www.ralcorz.com/customer_make...hp?mode=search
I remember reading a while back.. somebody made an aluminum pulley that was stock diameter... just can't remember.. Been suffering from CRS (can't remember shyte)
EDIT :
RalcoRZ
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...ock_Size/15295
and Stillen
http://www.stillen.com/product/pulle...0337-8102.html
http://www.cosmoracing.com/productlist.asp?cid=199
Ralco?
http://www.ralcorz.com/customer_make...hp?mode=search
I remember reading a while back.. somebody made an aluminum pulley that was stock diameter... just can't remember.. Been suffering from CRS (can't remember shyte)
EDIT :
RalcoRZ
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...ock_Size/15295
and Stillen
http://www.stillen.com/product/pulle...0337-8102.html
Thanks...
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I have two different 36-1 trigger wheels on order now - one's 7 1/4" in diameter and the other is 8 1/4". I'll need to come up with some way to mount one of them once I have parts-in-hand. I think the 8 1/4" wheel may hit the oil filter, but that's what parts are for. I'm tempted to mount a 7" 1/4" steel round plate on the pulley with a MIG weld then drill holes to mount one of the trigger wheels on it.
I also still need to find a 2002-2008 Maxima engine harness section that has the two cam sensor plugs attached. It's a small piece of cable but I haven't found one for sale anywhere - yet.
I also still need to find a 2002-2008 Maxima engine harness section that has the two cam sensor plugs attached. It's a small piece of cable but I haven't found one for sale anywhere - yet.
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The two are different, looking at the cam sensors themselves. Got connectors?
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Sweet news on the transmission!
I would run the stock balancer and try to work out a way to mount the wheel to it.
Seems like the aftermarket balancers aren't the greatest quality and that's an important piece to keep a motor happy.
I would run the stock balancer and try to work out a way to mount the wheel to it.
Seems like the aftermarket balancers aren't the greatest quality and that's an important piece to keep a motor happy.
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It is my understanding that VQ's are all internally balanced.... what we have on the crank snout is just a belt pulley with timing tabs. I believe calling it a "balancer" is in error. I think the crank pulleys I linked Harold to are all quality pieces.
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I just need the two cam sensor connectors with wire pigtails - with the small harness would be OK too. At least I think that's how it comes from the factory, as a short cable with the two cam sensor connectors and one other connector for the main harness.
The two are different, looking at the cam sensors themselves. Got connectors?
The two are different, looking at the cam sensors themselves. Got connectors?
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Looking at an OEM pulley, there is a nice flat ring on the inside, toward the front, that measures 114 mm diameter. (that's about 4 1/2") If I had a piece of steel tubing with 114 mm O,D. , that would fit inside that ring, perhaps as a press fit. If that tube was cut off to match the front of the pulley, then a steel disc could be welded on the tube to provide a flat mounting surface for a trigger wheel.
Or - going one step further, first machining out most of the inside of a trigger wheel to be just smaller than the 114 mm tube, then centering the trigger wheel to the tube and welding the two together would make something that would press into the pulley and support the trigger wheel. One the wheel is indexed to the right position, I think a MIG welder could reach inside the trigger wheel so you could spot-weld the 114 mm tube to the pulley. Not a long nasty weld, but just 3 or 4 quick spot welds so no rubber is cooked.
That sounds like it might even work. Hmmm... gotta think about this one.
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SWEET!! Are you planning on trying it out before the snow starts flying?
It is my understanding that VQ's are all internally balanced.... what we have on the crank snout is just a belt pulley with timing tabs. I believe calling it a "balancer" is in error. I think the crank pulleys I linked Harold to are all quality pieces.
It is my understanding that VQ's are all internally balanced.... what we have on the crank snout is just a belt pulley with timing tabs. I believe calling it a "balancer" is in error. I think the crank pulleys I linked Harold to are all quality pieces.
I'll need to tow the car to a Haltech dealer for "factory" installation anyway, so to have a warranty. Wichita KS, Tulsa and OKC in OK or Omaha NE are the closest dealers. Dallas has a few and they have Yellowbelly outlaw 1/8 mile drag strip (open all year) for "testing" how the Haltech works.
EDIT: I just ordered 2 ft of 4.5" OD steel tubing. Gotta have "parts in hand"...
EDIT #2: A more common term for the crank pulley is "harmonic balancer" - more than just a static balance is required here. The reason for the rubber...
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Transmission has been shipped
" Transmission was shipped last week, should be there this week ".
Time to collect the case of Amsoil SuperShift, the dipstick, driver's axle and misc belts together.
Time to collect the case of Amsoil SuperShift, the dipstick, driver's axle and misc belts together.
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You're going to make me buy one of those GoPro3 cameras, aren't you? It's probably time to do something about in-cabin recordings...
I asked John at IPT how the build went:
"Hi, Everything looked really good and I was happy with how it came out."
so there's hope.....
I asked John at IPT how the build went:
"Hi, Everything looked really good and I was happy with how it came out."
so there's hope.....
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Gaaa... I really don't need one more thing to do at the starting line. Now, I think the gopro3 or 3+ has a wireless remote so that maybe I could start and stop it from a wireless remote. If I even remembered to do it. Between the hurry-up-and-wait dance in staging, shutdowns for others blowing up during their run, and the do-just-one-thing focus you gotta have when staging yourself, (clear the transmission computer, check wideband, RPMs, nitrous systems enabled, fuel pressure up, three temps down) somehow taking videos of the back of my helmet just gets overlooked the few times I've tried it.
Yeah, I know, this is a no-whine-zone, so if I can find a video recorder than I can use, then maybe I will...
And No, the transmission isn't here yet.
Yeah, I know, this is a no-whine-zone, so if I can find a video recorder than I can use, then maybe I will...
And No, the transmission isn't here yet.
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Smarty - don't you wish??? It showed up Friday afternoon, at my shop. But, they won't be able to get to it until the week after Thanksgiving week. Oh well, at least this will happen.
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Where would be the best place to mount it for the Texas Mile?
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OK - that could work... unless that's too high to see what's going on past the hood. That seems a little high. Anyway, if I can control the camera with the remote, that would make it easier to manage... regardless of where it's mounted. Maybe on the passenger seat head rest?
This won't happen for a few weeks anyway. Most all track schedules are done by the end of November...
This won't happen for a few weeks anyway. Most all track schedules are done by the end of November...
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Torque converter info
Was doing some research on the RE4F04's today and came across some interesting info. Based on what I found, it seems that there are different diameter torque converters based upon what engine was being used. I admit I was kinda surprised (while at the same time i wasn't) that Nissan did this.
VQ30DE powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.75" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code GB, GD, GE.
QR25 Altima powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.0" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code HC, HE, HI.
I would be willing to bet that the Altima QR25 converter would probably stall a bit higher than a stock VQ converter when bolted up to a VQ motor.
Is this something that you can verify? Just the diameter of the converter casing itself, since you have both transmissions.
VQ30DE powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.75" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code GB, GD, GE.
QR25 Altima powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.0" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code HC, HE, HI.
I would be willing to bet that the Altima QR25 converter would probably stall a bit higher than a stock VQ converter when bolted up to a VQ motor.
Is this something that you can verify? Just the diameter of the converter casing itself, since you have both transmissions.
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OK - that could work... unless that's too high to see what's going on past the hood. That seems a little high. Anyway, if I can control the camera with the remote, that would make it easier to manage... regardless of where it's mounted. Maybe on the passenger seat head rest?
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With a longer support rod pointing down from the suction cup you would be able to angle it in a way so that the rear view mirror is not in the way. You could even suction cup it on the inside of the rear window (as Aaron has done)
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Was doing some research on the RE4F04's today and came across some interesting info. Based on what I found, it seems that there are different diameter torque converters based upon what engine was being used. I admit I was kinda surprised (while at the same time i wasn't) that Nissan did this.
VQ30DE powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.75" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code GB, GD, GE.
QR25 Altima powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.0" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code HC, HE, HI.
I would be willing to bet that the Altima QR25 converter would probably stall a bit higher than a stock VQ converter when bolted up to a VQ motor.
Is this something that you can verify? Just the diameter of the converter casing itself, since you have both transmissions.
VQ30DE powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.75" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code GB, GD, GE.
QR25 Altima powered RE4F04's
Dia. 10.0" Pilot .785" Hub 1.730" slot, mount 4 pads, 20 spline, Code HC, HE, HI.
I would be willing to bet that the Altima QR25 converter would probably stall a bit higher than a stock VQ converter when bolted up to a VQ motor.
Is this something that you can verify? Just the diameter of the converter casing itself, since you have both transmissions.
I do have both converters sitting side by side on the garage floor. The outsides are different, but I didn't measure anything since I have a much-modified torque converter installed now. When do you find this stuff? not complaining, just wondering. I'll photograph and measure both of them, since you're curious.
Now I hope that the converters are interchangeable, since I'm hanging a Maxima converter on the Altima transmission...
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EDIT: I tried a cheapo Tony Hawke helmet camera from a biker buddy. It really wasn't up to the job, but I bet things have improved over the years.
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Pix of Maxima and Altima converters
Just took pix - quickly - it's 27* F in the garage tonight.
By my eyeball, the converters are the same diameter. I'd have to set up a measuring device to be sure. The major difference is that the 2001 Maxima converter has another row of bumps compared to the 2006 Altima converter. Maybe the Maxima converter is built to handle more torque ??
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By my eyeball, the converters are the same diameter. I'd have to set up a measuring device to be sure. The major difference is that the 2001 Maxima converter has another row of bumps compared to the 2006 Altima converter. Maybe the Maxima converter is built to handle more torque ??
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Thanks Harold for taking the time to go out and snap the photos in the cold. I can see from the photos that your Maxima converter does have the correct "GD" code on it. The Altima one is more difficult to see it's stamping. I can also tell from the photos that the Altime converter is indeed smaller in diameter (on the cover side and not the backside) than the Maxima one. As far as the VQ converter being "stronger" than the QR... I'm not thinking that's the case here. It is more likely a smaller size in order to get the stall up towards 2500RPM or so given that it is used on a lower powered 4 banger. In drag racing circles (as I am sure you are aware of) smaller sized converters will stall higher that larger diameter units with all other factors being equal.
Thanks again for doing the "dirty work" for me. I do appreciate it.
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Thanks again for doing the "dirty work" for me. I do appreciate it.
-Andy
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Thanks Harold for taking the time to go out and snap the photos in the cold. I can see from the photos that your Maxima converter does have the correct "GD" code on it. The Altima one is more difficult to see it's stamping. I can also tell from the photos that the Altime converter is indeed smaller in diameter (on the cover side and not the backside) than the Maxima one. As far as the VQ converter being "stronger" than the QR... I'm not thinking that's the case here. It is more likely a smaller size in order to get the stall up towards 2500RPM or so given that it is used on a lower powered 4 banger. In drag racing circles (as I am sure you are aware of) smaller sized converters will stall higher that larger diameter units with all other factors being equal.
Thanks again for doing the "dirty work" for me. I do appreciate it.
-Andy
Thanks again for doing the "dirty work" for me. I do appreciate it.
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We are having a "gathering of the clan" for Thanksgiving this year, and there will be one or two late-model 2.5 L Altimas here. I can test your stall theory very easily. If they have tachometers... hmmm.. We shall see. Happy T-day.
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Anyhoot, Have a great Thanksgiving and enjoy the turkey coma.
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I tried last night with my daughters 2003 2.5 S model. I powerbraked it up to 2400 rpm before the tires started spinning. Might go higher since the pads, rotors were wet and there was a 1 inch layer of hard packed snow on the driveway.
Anyhoot, Have a great Thanksgiving and enjoy the turkey coma.
Anyhoot, Have a great Thanksgiving and enjoy the turkey coma.