As I am looking at getting a SC in the future and was wondering if anybody has thought of intercooling there SC like the setup a turbo has.
If any turbo driven drivers could send or post some pics of there piping to and from the intercooler it would help just trying to see where you are running the pipe so I can get a jist of where I can run piping.

 

Search. I made a thread or two about this and there is a ton of info in there about FMIC's and AWIC's.

 

Yeah but reading them I got no info on weither or not you decided to get one or if you should get one. I am looking to find out if I can get one and would it work. If so I would like pics of like Y2Kevse car without bumper on so I can see piping and see where there going in relation on how to run from a SC. I want to get the stillen fascia and want to fill it with a intercooler that actually works.

 

I have detailed pics of the way we did the intercooler on my S/C'd GS400. I doubt it would help you any though.

If you need them, I can email them to you if it in anyway would help.

 

Go to Turbomaxima.com. There you find a lot of pictures of Kev's car with the bumper off and others that have an intercooler.

 

www.turbomaxima.com been down for who know's how long.

 

The IC setup for the SC would be very different from the IC setup for a turbo.

I've done 2 IC's for turbo setups now and a while back I almost put an IC on my SC before I sold it. Very different locations and very different piping needs. IMO, looking at the IC on a turbo won't show you much at all. In front of the bumper, it's obviously very simple. It's the part going to the SC outlet and then up to the TB that get more complex.

Here is a pic of Jason's car with the bumper off.

http://www.evolution-autodesign.com/projects/max2.htm

I'm not sure yet, but after I get the current turbo project done, we may build an IC setup for the SC. Since all 4th gens have the same SC setup, the IC would not be hard at all. Unlike a turbo where things get placed differently all the time.

 

Ok By looking at this pic you see where the pipe comes up and goes to the throttle body. That's almost where the SC piping would start. From SC goes down to the intercooler. Where the Exhaust from the turbo is is where the piping from the intercooler could come up to the throttle body. I did some marking to show what I mean. Jason hope you don't mind me using these pics. Do you see my point. From me looking at these pics I bet it could be done.

 

That is one way, to do it, but unnecessarily complex. There are other easier ways to run piping. The turbo piping is that way by necessity due to placement of components. PM me and I can help you get a better idea of the layout.

 

It's been done.


I did it.

 

And thanks for the help.

 

What is the lay out that you used? I am interested on some info also.

 

pics are on my website.

I'm not sure what info your looking for, so start there, and ask me anything.

 

website is your car audio and that's it.

 

I used a SC setup to help understand what I am talking about I shouldn't have used the turbo one. Here this is what I mean. I used Y2kevse's SC pics.





Do you see what I mean.

 

Hehehe, not bad, but you'll be feeding your engine radiator fluid or exhaust fumes with those tubes

Just kidding, I know what you mean. The evolution turbo with Jason Sadlers car is probably your best bet, since you can see most of the tubing, with the exception of the air output of the turbo. It can be done, has been done by several people (the only one that comes to mind is a 5th gen), and well ...

Results we're not sure of. It SHOULD make the air cooler, however the question is, is the amount of boost you're running compressing the air enough to generate a rediculous amount of heat?

 

Click on the right scroll arrow enough times and you'll get to them.

 

http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...issan%20Maxima

theres 8 pages of stuff, use the contents to see what your looking for.


Is an intercooler worth it on a s/c? Yes, the engine runs much smoother and alot less hot. You also get more tq outta of it, so you get more of a pulling feeling that seems to be why people think they are switching from s/c to turbo.

 

I follow what the young man is trying to accomplish. I too think is possible. The really hard part is not going to be the feed into the IC, it's going to be the outlet to the TB that's going to be difficult.

If you go the way you are thinking about going, you are going to have to find a place between the radiator and the headlight on the front clip that is not occupied already to drill a hole thru to get back into the engine compartment. You then are gonna have to "navigate" around already existing things to get up to the TB.

It can be done, just very intricate and elaborate piping has to be engineered. I think that if you are going to try it, more power to you. I think is a good idea and innovative. Good job.

 

Deac also had an IC SC, but he didn't get too many pics up:
http://www.cardomain.com/id/deacfrye

IIRC...Jer also had one.

 

Well I would say the first step is to get a battery relocation kit from a turbo setup so the piping will not be so difficult. Just my opinon.

 

It's not too difficult to put the IC in. It would turn down 90 degrees from the compressor and probably come up where all the other guys run their PR cold air intake. That would be the most direct path. Only question is where you would end up putting your MAF. I understand there's a x-over pipe on the 5th Gen supercharger to run the MAF on the uncharged side and I guess it could be reused. I can't see where max'n out put his MAF though since he has a cold air intake and the large plexi piece covering the left side of his engine bay.

It's also up to you how large of an IC you want to run. There's roughly enough room for a 6" x 3" x 20" intercooler + end tanks without any cutting of the bumper support (this is assuming it's similar to a 4th gen layout). You can actually go wider but I forget exactly how wide Sadler's IC was.

Basically you have to cut a hole in the sheetmetal below the frame rails if you don't want to run the pipe around the back of the tow hook. On the driver's side you can go up the CAI area for the most direct path.

 

Alright heres the deal, you making it out like it needs a new engine or somthing.


First the cold air intake is an option can do it or not either way it dont' matter.

Then out of the s/c pressure side you can use the stcok 90 degree bend or in my suggestion get a more rounded one, the the pipe roundedly bent goes right by the radiater through a hole cut in the fire wall. Then into the top of the intercooler end tank.

out of the intercooler, you have two choices, one run under the frame, or through it...then boom right back up to the throttlebody.

I dont' know what else you wanna know.


Another option, one I thought about doing is a air/water intercooler.


This does require the batter to go on back.

Outta the s/c like normal right on over to the air/water then boom right to the t.b...course the a/w would have to be custom.

 

I am talking just like you have it. By the SC how do you have it going around or above the lower radiator hose.

 

goes below it.

 

You would probably have more room to work with if you relocated the battery and used the space like any CAI would (as someone else mentioned earlier). You could go from the discharge side of the IC thru the fender well, just as the CAI does, and then up to the TB. As to placement of the MAF, I would place it as close to the TB as possible on the "charged" side.

 

On a 5th gen, I don't think they can run the MAF on the charged side. Lots of MAF failures from doing that I've heard. On a 4th gen, it's no problem though.

 

Just run it like Kev did his intercooler EXCEPT withOUT the crossover pipe and the feed/discharge ends are flopped.

Drill two holes for the feed/discharge piping to the intercooler. Feed side makes a 90 at the SC discharge and a 90 into the feed side of the IC. IC discharge has MILES of room for as smooth a route as you want to the TB.

Leave the battery alone and run the MAF on the CAI like always.

This is pretty simple really.

 

My plan was to do it just like max'n out except not putting my BOV where he put his.

 

I think people just like to think they know it all or somthing.

As for moving the battery, it's pointless.

 

It's not if you need the room to run piping up from the IC.

Who is it that you think knows it all?

 

Here you go...

http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/05.jpg
http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/06.jpg
http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/07.jpg
http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/08.jpg
http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/09.jpg
http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/10.jpg
http://boostedmaximas.com/y2kevse/images/turbo3/11.jpg

 

You don't need to move the battery to have room for the pipeing out of the intercooler...who you think would know better me who has it or sombody that dont'.

And it's no specific person, it's in generel people are speculating rather than listning to those that have acualy done somthing.

 

Thanks for the pics.

 

I'm not sure what other angle you need to look at, but you can sort of make out how the piping is routed with those pictures.

 

If you want take a pic looking down between the engine and radiator so I can see where your going from the intercooler. That would help.

 

Where are the pics of your setup?