should I spend money which I have right now for a nitrous kit or should I save the money for a while longer and get a S/C kit?

 

the questions is do you want power for a few seconds or do you want it all the time?

 

Nitrous Kills engines...Supercharger you will have bragging rights

-matt

 

How does nitrous kill your engine exactly?? :|

 

Supercharge it! Nitrous is

 

personally, id save up the money and s/c it. thats what i plan on doing in about a year or so. your engine will suffer with the s/c more than it would with nitrous, but having the power all the time would be great.

 

Exactly how does nitrous kill the engine? If you can't install or use nitrous properly, yeah the engine will probably go. But nitrous isn't any worse for the motor than SC or turbo.

It all depends on what you're going for. With nitrous, you'll probably get better times in the 1/4 mile, much wider powerband. With the SC, the power is always there (or as there as that 1000 rpm band where the SC actuall makes power can be.) If you get the SC, make sure to get it installed properly or else you will regret it.

 

Is that right? Because I could've sworn making excessive power all the time creates more stress on a motor than making it only at certain times.

Both of them are bad for your car, in a sense that your engine will be making more power than it was designed to. However that is a tradeoff you have to make for 270+ hp. You may encounter a few problems, however there have been very, very few major problems resulting from moderate (company recommended) boost.

If I was you, I would save up and buy the S/C (this is coming from a guy using nitrous-oxide). Coining off an old phrase: 80hp at the pedal is worth 100 in the bottle. It's just nicer to have the power on tap, and knowing you'll never have to refill a bottle.
-Cyrus

 

nitrous is
only babies are on bottles.

save up for a real mod that you can actually brag about. S/C it !

 

I agree S/C it!

 

Is there a reason why you wanted to super charge or Nitrious? What about a Turbo kit? or is that more expensive or is there a reason why you left it off.

Thay way you can use the turbos when you want, they kick it around 3RPM, and you can keep your good gas milage under that, plus dont have to worry about a supercharger belt snapping ( as I've heard stories about).

Also dont supercharges drain more energy (electrically)? some guy at work with a super charged Integra told me that ( dont think I believe him)

correct me if I'm wrong about anything.

 

save up for both

 

werd

 

love the sound a sc makes. i would save it up.

 

you've been pondering a nitrous setup for the past 6 months now, and you put up a poll? still something you haven't figured out about n20 vs other forms of fi?

 

what things should id do to my engine, before i install a SC. (to let the engine lest longer.
just basic tune up.
my car has 180000 miles.

 

no...all i am saying is should I use up few hundred dollars and spray or should I keep that few hundred and put it towards a S/C fund?

turbo is out of the question.....too expensive.....why would my 1/4 times be better on the bottle then S/C'ed?

 

most of my racing takes place while rolling.....

 

If you are thinking only dragging (i.e. at the track), you should opt for nitrous. Not only is it cheaper (considering you use it track only as I said), but much easier to obtain better times.

If you want everyday driving power, S/C hands down. Nitrous is a PITA to turn on, refill bottle, check pressure, etc. But if you're only using it on the track, it's fine.

My $.02.
-Cyrus

 

supercharger hands down. but turbo is better.

 

Torque and powerband. Look at dyno plots of nitrous maximas compared to SC'd maximas. The SC has a rather narrow powerband, so while the peak numbers may be high, you're only making that much power for a very short time. With nitrous, you're powerband is much more broad.

Example, Jay25 ran like 13.4-13.6 on his SC setup that made ~320 hp at the wheels. JaimeCBR had an auto nitrous Maxima that ran 13.2's w/ probably 70 less horsepower. It's all about the area under the hp curve.

 

Actually it just depends on what you want in your car. Speed that lasts for seconds or power that is on all the time. If I were you just get the s/c, it would be worth so much more when it came in the mail after so many months of waiting.

 

From what I've read, if you want power all the time, a custom turbo kit would be better than a supercharger. Unless you could find a positive displacement supercharger vs. the Stillen/Vortech centrifigal unit. Then again, I may be a total retard when it comes to FI and regurgitated incorrect posts.

~THT

 

What it comes down to is: What do you want it for?
For everyday driving, nitrous has the advantage of only being used when you want it. You Max runs and uses fuel like a stocker until you throw the switch. Initial cost is low, but bottle refills will add up over time.

With S/C's, or Turbo's, the power is alway's there, along with the potential problems associated with constant boost, fuel consumption, etc. Initial cost for either is high, but is a one shot deal. Also, consider the maintenance involved with each setup. FI requires frequent maintenance with more to check, then occasional N2O use does.

One isn't neccesarily better than the other, all of them have advantages and dis-advantages, you have to choose what's best for you.

Good Luck with whatever you choose.

 

if you have auto:
get nitrous, play around with it for awhile, 5spd swap, then add SC

if you have 5spd:
just get SC


just my .02

 

so a 3.125 pulley S/C kit and full bolt-ons except for headers and cams will net me what if I were tuned perfectly? hp and 1/4 estimates? I am a 5spd....so whatever that would approximate too...

if I were to get a 50 or 75 shot, with full-bolt ons as well excluding headers and cams (5 spd), what hp and 1/4 estimates should I expect?

this will basically determine my decision.....so the S/C dyno's have no "meat" under the curves and therefore feel slow?

 

in the long run they will cost the same. s/c biotch

 

not so worried about cost....but rather which one will ultimately make my car faster....does either make my car unreliable....i understand the idea of all the time stress and nitrous being just momentary stres....but I guess what I am asking is....how reliable is a high mileage S/C'ed max with all the bolt-ons and if properly maintained and installed? can it be an everyday driver?

I kinda want the S/C setup b/c it will be ultimately be more rewarding but then I can say bye bye to the famous intake sound of our cars....can never floor it in 1st again from a roll, and is a lot harder to install with potentially a lot more headaches and tuning involved....and nitrous is a lot easier to de-install for smog purposes....

i dunno this is a rather difficult choice especially cause people are saying how there is no power down low or under the curve anywhere below 5K rpm...but you do have to admit, having any flavor of a boosted max makes you wanna jiz just thinking about it! LOL

 

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nitrous isnt going to affect smog, they cant do anything to you about it. Cops on the other hand, just make shure the line is off the bottle

 

I have had my SC'er kit on for about 2 months now and have minimal headaches with it. Installation is not that tough because i did mine without any previous experience. You just have to be patient with waiting to get it tuned and installing guages ETC...... I can also say that although the peak power band is minimal, you can deffinitley feel the added power around 3k. Also since your car is most likely your daily driver like mine i would say that the supercharger is the safest choice for FI. Just make sure you have some extra money saved up for unexpected problems.

 

YOu will probably end up spending more money on the nitrous, because when you feel how much you like it when you spray, you will start spraying all the time.

Just get the SC and be done with it.

 

Just to clear up a misconception people seem to have. With a SC and especially with a turbo, the power is not always there. You can drive all day, or all year for that matter, without ever boosting. It all depends on how much throttle you give it. So if you drive in a normal fashion a FI engine is not going to suffer any more damage than a NA engine, and gas mileage will be only marginally affected.

 

i just called stillen and was asking them how i can get 350-400hp out my max and they said the supercharger,and y-pipe (stick only) will produce 300hp then you can go from that like lightened flywheel,and what ever then go to nos if u still feel the need for more crazy speed but just nos alone boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

go with a custom turbo kit.Rip out a turbo from the junkyard,crank it open,rebuild it,add some ceramic ball bearings,have someone make you the piping,and you should be happy.I have nitrous right now,but I'm doing all of the custom turbo work in my shop right now.So I'll soon get rid of nitrous.Its also a little easier for me since I work at a CNC Machining shop and can do most of this stuff there.

good luck with the decision!

 

There's only 1 or 2 people with FI that answered this thread. Wait for some others who actually know what they are talking about before listening to all the others.

 

Me being one of them:having an NX wet kit.

With having nitrous,I'm telling you go another way first.Nitrous ends up being about as much as a turbo or s/c with all the extra parts and each fill is about $50.Once you spray,you arent gonna wanna stop,so its about $50 every weekend.Do what I said before; custom turbo.