for those looking for turbo piping
11-17-2005, 03:07 AM
#324
so far still on schedule. 11 t3/t4 universal flanges have been CNC'ed, 6 sets (12) flanges for the manifold have been CNC'ed, i ran out of material so the manufacture ordered some more. and i'll cut 5 more sets of manifold flanges. i'm currently there operating the CNC machine to speed up the process (someone has to be watching it making sure the bit doesn't snap), and also making sure that the pipes fit on the welding/bending jig perfectly. there are some tight areas, one of the pipes shifted a bit because we changed the collector from one of those slip collectors into a mider cut merge collector for better flow. 5 sets of 3" v-band clamps have arrived and 5 sets of 3" v-band flanges will be arriving tomorrow.
11-17-2005, 06:43 AM
#326
Sounds good! What material is everything going to be? Stainless steel for the pipes and mild steel for the flanges?
Also, I believe that I have a T4 inlet flange, will you be able to make one of those or should I send you one. Im not too sure even if its T4, do you have any measurements so I can check, I searched google and came up with nothing. Im using a Precision GT40 turbo.
Also, I believe that I have a T4 inlet flange, will you be able to make one of those or should I send you one. Im not too sure even if its T4, do you have any measurements so I can check, I searched google and came up with nothing. Im using a Precision GT40 turbo.
11-17-2005, 10:27 AM
#327
Originally Posted by spanishrice
its so weird, why do you have to do the work?
so mingo has to go in there and do his good work on their machines to get good product out to us in time for xmas
11-17-2005, 11:47 AM
#329
Originally Posted by JeEvE
Sounds good! What material is everything going to be? Stainless steel for the pipes and mild steel for the flanges?
Also, I believe that I have a T4 inlet flange, will you be able to make one of those or should I send you one. Im not too sure even if its T4, do you have any measurements so I can check, I searched google and came up with nothing. Im using a Precision GT40 turbo.
Also, I believe that I have a T4 inlet flange, will you be able to make one of those or should I send you one. Im not too sure even if its T4, do you have any measurements so I can check, I searched google and came up with nothing. Im using a Precision GT40 turbo.
PM me a pic I can tell you what flange it is.
11-17-2005, 02:24 PM
#331
Originally Posted by Y2KevSE
Even the owner of a Taiwanese sweatshop has to sometimes work too. O rearry?!?! 
^_^
^_^i only have the flange type for the t4 and t3. i think some of the GT series use that flange too..
11-17-2005, 02:44 PM
#332
Originally Posted by mingo
that is collect i learry have to do what evel it takes to speed up the proccess
i only have the flange type for the t4 and t3. i think some of the GT series use that flange too..
i only have the flange type for the t4 and t3. i think some of the GT series use that flange too..
11-17-2005, 06:54 PM
#333
Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
I measured my T4, its approx. 3.250" x 2.750" from the center of each holes.
Mingo, since I need the T4 flange, would it be okay if that was mailed to you and it is welded on instead of the T3/T4? Also, you said you have 3" V-Band couplers, you will also be selling these with the pipes? Just want to make sure what I need when gathering all my stuff togher.
11-17-2005, 06:58 PM
#334
the flange that was CNC'ed has two bolt patterns, it fits both turbo's. so i don't need flanges from anyone. unless you guys have some odd downpipe flange, but either way if you guys don't want to wait, you can just cut off the flange that is welded on the downpipe and reweld the one on there. but just make sure it's at least tac welded with the turbo sitting on the car to insure proper fitment.
11-19-2005, 12:19 AM
#336
i finished cutting all the flanges today, and picked up the stainless steel pipes. bought 60ft of 2" and 60ft of 2.5" and the manufacture already has 3". someone (not me) dropped the welding fixture so it got a bit bent so we have to fix that before we can bend the new pipes. (should be real fast)
the owner has a wedding to attend tomorrow so all that can be done tomorrow is the pipes can be bent. and then after that, hopefully we can get everything welded together on sunday or monday and hopefully make the tuesday deadline (i'm leaving on wednesday for turkey day).
i need to have an idea of what turbo's you guys are running so i can have a rough estimate as to what flanges to weld onto the downpipe.
the owner has a wedding to attend tomorrow so all that can be done tomorrow is the pipes can be bent. and then after that, hopefully we can get everything welded together on sunday or monday and hopefully make the tuesday deadline (i'm leaving on wednesday for turkey day).
i need to have an idea of what turbo's you guys are running so i can have a rough estimate as to what flanges to weld onto the downpipe.
11-19-2005, 12:24 AM
#338
if the owner comes in on sunday, then sunday it is. if not then monday.. i dont' know how to tig weld, but he will teach me soon, so once i get good, i might be the one welding all the pipes too (highly unlikely).
11-19-2005, 12:32 AM
#339
Originally Posted by mingo
if the owner comes in on sunday, then sunday it is. if not then monday.. i dont' know how to tig weld, but he will teach me soon, so once i get good, i might be the one welding all the pipes too (highly unlikely).
Can't wait for the pics and prices.
11-19-2005, 12:36 AM
#340
Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
Yea if you weld them too then you'll really be the only one whose work on the this project the most as oppose just giving the manufacturer the design and having them come up with the prototype and the final piece. It feels like you just paid the manu. for the space shop, materials, equipment and very little labor. I hope you have a profitable agreement with them that they won't cost you a lot of the well deserved earnings.
Can't wait for the pics and prices.
Can't wait for the pics and prices.
11-20-2005, 12:58 AM
#343
Originally Posted by chilled
Can you give us a ballpark estimate on time Mingo? Im waiting to see your design before I decide if I will be going with your forward y setup, or a local shop's.
11-22-2005, 03:10 AM
#345
cnc machine is leaking coolant all over the place. but the first pieces came off the jig.. keep in mind that more welds will be reduced. but this is pretty much what you guys will be getting, that's stage two right there. all IC pipes are bead rolled. because of the lack of interest in IC piping, they will be built to order unlike the exhaust pipes where i will build batches at a time.
11-22-2005, 05:11 AM
#347
Pipes are a forward Y-pipe and it will bolt to stock manifolds.
Mingo, do you have it setup so the wastegate dumps back into the downpipe? How will that exactly work because different turbine housings would misalign the downpipe. Is there different options with this?
Mingo, pipes are looking good. By any chance do you think you can get any higher res. pictures? Sorry to hear about CNC machine screwing up.
Didnt want to ask you this because you get asked ever other post, but do you have an estimated time where you will have feed pipes made, ready to sell? and anything on the price?
Mingo, do you have it setup so the wastegate dumps back into the downpipe? How will that exactly work because different turbine housings would misalign the downpipe. Is there different options with this?
Mingo, pipes are looking good. By any chance do you think you can get any higher res. pictures? Sorry to hear about CNC machine screwing up.
Didnt want to ask you this because you get asked ever other post, but do you have an estimated time where you will have feed pipes made, ready to sell? and anything on the price?
11-22-2005, 07:06 AM
#350
Originally Posted by stephenlc
im scared, all the pipes look like different diameters.
Looks like a 2 piece feed pipe? Downpipe like splits into 2 little pipes than back to a 3 inch pipe? Looks kinda weird.
Looks like a 2 piece feed pipe? Downpipe like splits into 2 little pipes than back to a 3 inch pipe? Looks kinda weird.
11-22-2005, 07:58 AM
#351
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Originally Posted by mingo
cnc machine is leaking coolant all over the place. but the first pieces came off the jig.. keep in mind that more welds will be reduced. but this is pretty much what you guys will be getting, that's stage two right there. all IC pipes are bead rolled. because of the lack of interest in IC piping, they will be built to order unlike the exhaust pipes where i will build batches at a time.
11-22-2005, 08:13 AM
#352
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As far as having he piping in pieces, trust me that in the long run you will be happy it's in seperate pieces as long as the connections are good. My original piping was in seperate pieces held together with butt joints and getting the piping in place was not all that hard. I re-did the piping removing some of the butt joints. Had to remove all the piping last month to pull the tranny, and let me tell you how much of a PITA it was to do without any connections.
Question, where is the turbo supposed to be mounted with this set up? Battery location I imagine?
Question, where is the turbo supposed to be mounted with this set up? Battery location I imagine?
11-22-2005, 03:20 PM
#355
Originally Posted by stephenlc
im scared, all the pipes look like different diameters.
Looks like a 2 piece feed pipe? Downpipe like splits into 2 little pipes than back to a 3 inch pipe? Looks kinda weird.
Looks like a 2 piece feed pipe? Downpipe like splits into 2 little pipes than back to a 3 inch pipe? Looks kinda weird.
as far as the different sized turbo fitting. this kit was designed for flexibility, the downpipe is in two sections, the top half can be changed when you decide to switch turbos, the current set ups that has been fitted is the turbonetics to4e 3" vband downpipe flange, and the garret t3/t4 hybrid 4 bolt downpipe flange. the turbo bolts up to the second part of the feed pipe, and bolt patterns have been made so it can fit both the t3 and t4 turbos. if you have something other than what i have, you may have to fabricate just the top peice of the downpipe, but chances are, it'll fit.
realistically speaking, if everything were to be one peice, then you'de have to remove the radiator, and crossmember to install this kit, and shipping would cost way too much.
11-22-2005, 03:26 PM
#356
oh yeah, i forgot to add, the feed pipe is almost equal length, that's why i put that little u section in there. i couldn't get it to be exact equal length due to space constraints, either that or i could have made the other pipe even longer which would not help, having one pipe shorter and shooting straight into the merge collector will help "pull" the exhaust out of the other ports kind of like how X nad H pipes work on dual exhaust cars.
the wastegate dumps back into the top portion of the downpipe.
i didn't have my digicam on me so those pix were taken with my phone..
my car is currently being prepped for a 1000 mile test for this kit. (i'll have over 1000 miles by the end of the thanks giving weekend) if all checks out, then they go on sale right away on the following monday, and 10 peices will go into production right away. these peices have not been tested on the sponsored 4th gen yet, but will be shortly. i can only do so much with only me working on sponsor cars, the battery still has to be relocated on the 4th gen. both 5th gens are fully prepped and ready to go.
the wastegate dumps back into the top portion of the downpipe.
i didn't have my digicam on me so those pix were taken with my phone..
my car is currently being prepped for a 1000 mile test for this kit. (i'll have over 1000 miles by the end of the thanks giving weekend) if all checks out, then they go on sale right away on the following monday, and 10 peices will go into production right away. these peices have not been tested on the sponsored 4th gen yet, but will be shortly. i can only do so much with only me working on sponsor cars, the battery still has to be relocated on the 4th gen. both 5th gens are fully prepped and ready to go.
11-22-2005, 03:57 PM
#357
Great job Mingo! The pipes are looking good. Can't wait for better resolutions pictures, I think people are thrown off by the quality of the pic rather than the actual pipes. How are the pipes going to be connected?
When you take new pics, I think you should have a separate picture for both the feedpipe and downpipe so the people who are somewhat visually impaired can figure out what pipe is what.
When you take new pics, I think you should have a separate picture for both the feedpipe and downpipe so the people who are somewhat visually impaired can figure out what pipe is what.
11-22-2005, 05:09 PM
#359
Originally Posted by mingo
kinda did it that way so competitors can't copy it easily
for now, until everyone else starts putting it up on their sites.
for now, until everyone else starts putting it up on their sites.
Just my .02 cent.
Its a medium you have to deal with I guess and I'm sure there will be better pictures when the final product is ready to be sold, I'm gald we were able to see the pic finally its be long overdue.