t6378tp

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try 3
I am pricing the parts and drawing up plans for my buddy who works at a muffler shop to start bending up some piping, I also plan to finally use my injen. Right now I am trying to get some more info and specs on turbo's I would like the boost to kick in lower around 3k but a 3.5swap it still not out of the question

can not wait to see your dyno results

maxgtr2000

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Man dude, props on your setup, thank you for actually doing this THEN posting it and not talk about doing it and disappear. So are you the first rear mounted turbo 4th gen? Either way, congrats.

MDeezy

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I'm still a little shaking on the idea of the turbo being so close to the ground. Certainly many of us have ran over something we didnt want to, hit a pot hole that we didnt expect to, etc. This for a normal person driving would make them cringe for a second then keep driving. A Rear mounted turbo could get slapped off, and become a nightmare in seconds.

Tatanko

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It's not like your car would shut off. You'd still have an air source and have a place for exhaust to come out I do see your point, though. As I stated in an earlier post, mine will def. have some sort of skid plate or something protecting it at least from scraping. My filter will also have a shield on it, at least where it faces the ground.

Also, good excuse to lower the front of the car but not the rear

streetzlegend

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It is impossible for the turbo to get hit by something. in order for that too happen, the gas tank would hit as well. and thats very very hard to do. unless your going off roading or fulll speed over a little hill, going airborne n slamming on the ground.

streetzlegend

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as for updates, I might hold off on the dyno a bit. My plans right now are as follows:

- set up water injection (might buy it on ebay, 190shipped, or build my own)

- change the reference hose of the wastegate to the front by the TB, because right now the WG is getting its reference signal from a barb i put right after the turbos outlet. the WG has a 7.25psi spring, but im only showing about slightly over 5psi on my gauge. so if i run the hose of the WG to the front of the TB, then the WG will keep opening till i am actually getting 7.25psi. JStutter suggested that. Since pressure leaving the turbo is greater than the pressure reaching the engine probably due to the distance.

- finally install walbro 255 i have sitting in my room. (even though the stock fuel pump is holding up fine, i dont wanna risk it dying one day on me while im going for a run)

- Tune to about mid 11's a/f

- THEN dyno, because dynoing now is just going to be a waste of money since i really dont have it set up 100%. im still running pig rich, but i dont wanna tune till i get water injection (very hot in miami, and i am paranoid i might detonate at leaner mixture). Hopefully by this time, ill be showing a higher boost closer to 7.25psi (which is the spring i have in the WG).

Fr33way™

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Very cool, I think holding off on the dyno is a good idea as well. It will be crucial to those going for this setup.

Nealoc187

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I swear I posted this last night but I don't see my post, anyways...

What are you doing for an air filter? Are you just sticking one on the turbo or are you making an intake of sorts to move the filter up away from all the road dirt and crap?

Aaron92SE

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I like beer too!

streetzlegend

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For now, im goign to stick it on the turbo, and put one of these shield things to cover the filter from road debri and water coming off the ground

t6378tp

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I was looking on the sts site and guys there were using a k/n sock to over the filter in rainy weather

http://www.ststurbo.com/air_filter_water_concerns

streetzlegend

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damn i wonder where i can purchase flexible snorkel like that: http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/i/misc/snorkel-kit_ezr.jpg

MDeezy

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i know autozone has one, ~$40 for it. Not sure if its as flexible as the one you posted but its the same accordian like style.

grey99max

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Maybe a hardware store? Flexible aluminum dryer vent pipe...... Tough and Cheap....

streetzlegend

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Well, i just put in the filter. i put it right at the turbo for now. eventually im going to either put shield or sock over it, or use the flexible piping to move it somewhere else. but for now. this is how i have it. btw notice how high the turbo is off the ground for those concernd with it hitting something. the lowest point now is the filter.

MDeezy

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I worry about that filter and water.

maxgtr2000

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You could add a 90 degree silicone elbow then the filter and have it facing up toward the oil feed (referring to your pic). But I really don't think the way you have it now is that much lower than a cai intake, mine was about that low when I had one. As long as you avoid floods you are alright; florida tho... hurricane central. Still looks good tho, you inspired alot of people.

Tatanko

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That's still not that high up or protected at all, but it's at least only as low as, say, a muffler. I would still be putting on some kind of shield and relocating the filter, though.

96blkonblkse

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yeah id be worried about that filter, its going to get pretty damn wet when your driving in the rain, from all the mist and when the tires go through a puddle. Id re-route it somewhere higher up with one of those waterproof covers. crazy project man, id really be into trying this out, really saves the trouble of designing a new exhaust setup and to try make everything fit under the hood. congrats man!!

MDeezy

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this is a sucessful project. Once the turbo is protected and guarded and the filter routed away from the elements, especially water I'd feel safe and more at ease when driving.

Jeff92se

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Just cut a hole in the truck sheet metal. Maybe take out the spare and hide it down there. You can patch it easy enough if it ever came to that.

streetzlegend

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Well yea. having the filter in the trunk is probably a good idea. BUT what about exhaust gasses coming in? for example when standing still with car on for long time.

streetzlegend

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I would like to get suggestion from everyone. Should I somehow mount an air temperature sensor to monitor the temp going into engine, this will tell me if having alot of piping coming from the back actually does cool down. but i dont kno if theres anything to compare too, has anyone ever put a temp sensor on turbo setup?

JClaw

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I would DEFINATELY get an elbow and mount that filter UP HIGH even if you have to cut into the car itself somewhat. Then I would get an aluminum sheet to make a shield. That shield will also help with smooth air flow under the car.

I would not drive it in the rain or wet as it is.

Jeff92se

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Just use a rubber seal around the pipe opening. Weather stripping or something similar.

grey99max

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Pick me, pick me !!!

Cut a hole in the trunk, run aluminum dryer vent flex tubing from the turbo intake into the trunk, seal with GE 100% silicone sealer, spend $20.00 - no exhaust fumes, 'cause it's sealed up! The tube can flex with turbo motion and will not break.

The filter can draw air from the trunk, it stays dry, the flex tubing won't melt because it's not plastic, and the silicone sealer is good for 25 years. If the aluminum flex is destroyed by road trash, replace for a few bucks or do a quick roadside repair with Gorilla tape until you get back to a hardware store.

Not that I've mentioned this before....

grey99max

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You can go to Radio Shack and buy an indoor/outdoor thermometer with a probe on a long cable, which can be inserted into the intake tract. The probes are about 1/16 " at the tip. Cheap, quick, effective - like a good girl friend...

You should monitor the External temperature reading when watching your intake air temperature.

glenmoormax

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or buy a 500 DD beater and drive this on sunny days.

congraats... I knew about this as well....

maxgtr2000

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I think you can get a cheap digital temperature gauge and sender from JCWhitney.com.
http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/P...al+temperature

The link for the sending unit is at the bottom of the page. I'm planning on getting ones of these as well. I didn't check but it would probably look better in green led.

Fr33way™

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There already is a drain hole in the spare tire well, it's maybe two inches in diameter. You can just open that up to slightly bigger than the filter neck and silicone the surrounding area which should be tight anyway. Pulling in air from the trunk still seems odd to me but that looks like the best option without using a whole lot of pipe to relocate it.

z32drifter

I was thinking sandwich a couple of cheap MAF addapters together so you would have something to clamp the tube on the outside and the filter on the inside. After some additional thought it would be cheaper and just as easy to use 2-3" of 3" pipe epoxied in the spare tire well. In theory the "trunk" air should be as cool as outside air, I doubt that the limited volume in the trunk will be an issue.

BTW congrats on the setup, it's got the wheels in my head turning. I'd be intrested in seeing the temps at the turbo, I'm curious if a self contained oil system might be a better option than running the oil lines to and from the eng.

Nealoc187

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You gotta do something with that filter there's no way that ish is gonna work... You are gonna be cleaning that filter 4 times a week. Trunk is what I was thinking.

ghostmax301

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samething I've been thinking.... But would the fresh, dense air make anykind of difference.



This setup would be nice on my soon to be 3.5 4thgen

Tatanko

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It's got to be better than water

Nealoc187

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a couple hp, that's it.

streetzlegend

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So i guess routing it to the trunk it is? hmmmmm

ajcool2

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Anyway you can get video your setup?

Tatanko

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I've already seen an amateur-ish video of it I have nowhere to host it, though, and it's his video anyway. Not that great of a video, more to prove it works than anything (you see the car and hear the noises).

t6378tp

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the cone on the turbo is no lower or exposed than some cai's if you take the splash guard off .. just put the sock on if the weather man says rain to be safe and watch out for puddles. I do not think it's a good idea to get alot of water on a hot turbo no-matter were the cone is mounted.

Tatanko

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But WHY RISK IT? I cannot understand how cheap some of you must be. You have like $1000 worth of parts, not to mention your engine, at risk here if water does get in. Why not spend the completely insignificant amount of money to protect all that?