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Old 01-12-2009, 04:49 PM
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I am currently wating for my new JWT chip. They can sometimes take forever. They wanted my injectors claiming deatschwerks injectors never flow what their charts say and I told them to make the program off of the flow chart anyways. I did finally get the 3 inch exhaust on and the car feels MUCH faster but it sounds like crap. I guess thats the hit I have to take. As soon as the chip is installed I will redyno; provided the chip works correctly without them testing my injectors.
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Gotcha. Looking forward to the new numbers.

Maybe I missed this, but who made your 3" exhaust? Resonated?
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Its Iansw's original 3 inch exhaust. I believe the b pipe is custom (mandrel bent) and the muffler is a dynomax super turbo. I hate the sound, but love the power. I just leave my music up and then I can't hear it lol
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Originally Posted by mastercater7
Its Iansw's original 3 inch exhaust. I believe the b pipe is custom (mandrel bent) and the muffler is a dynomax super turbo. I hate the sound, but love the power. I just leave my music up and then I can't hear it lol
You should add a resonator, like a 24" magnaflow, that will make it sound alot nicer, get rid of the raspy sound, wont hurt airflow since its straight through. Goodluck
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Originally Posted by mastercater7
Its Iansw's original 3 inch exhaust. I believe the b pipe is custom (mandrel bent) and the muffler is a dynomax super turbo. I hate the sound, but love the power. I just leave my music up and then I can't hear it lol
Get in on Cattman's 3" exhaust! and choose the resonator option (can be swapped out with straight pipe for dyno days/track nights) Upon delivery, sell your old setup. Done deal. No more crappy sound, and maybe it will flow better too.
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The Dynomax Superturbo is the reason why it sounds crappy. Seriously i had one, and it made my exaust sound terrible. Just get a good 3" Vibrant muffler, IMO sounds wayyyy better..

Nice setup man! Im definately waiting for updated numbers!
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in for dyno results should get a 2.70 antislip pulley if you dont already have one
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Originally Posted by JonBlz
in for dyno results should get a 2.70 antislip pulley if you dont already have one
Not sure how that would fair on a stock block.
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Originally Posted by JonBlz
in for dyno results should get a 2.70 antislip pulley if you dont already have one
Playing with fire on stock rods
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Originally Posted by JonBlz
in for dyno results should get a 2.70 antislip pulley if you dont already have one
Where does one get a "2.70" pulley?? I know of 2.62 and 2.85 and up, but not 2.70.
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Originally Posted by 98MaXeDouT
Not sure how that would fair on a stock block.
Originally Posted by PharoNDmist
Playing with fire on stock rods
Wussies. It's all in the tuning anyway.
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Trust me, the 2.87 is PLENTY of power. When you can lose the tires in third gear theres no need for more power.
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Where does one get a "2.70" pulley?? I know of 2.62 and 2.85 and up, but not 2.70.
Reichard sells a 2.7 antislip: http://www.reichardracing.com/pulleys.php

Trust me, the 2.87 is PLENTY of power. When you can lose the tires in third gear theres no need for more power.
Time for some drag radials. Some 275 Nittos should help a lot.
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Originally Posted by tsaulz
Reichard sells a 2.7 antislip: http://www.reichardracing.com/pulleys.php
Thank you tsaulz.
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Originally Posted by 96blkonblkse
The Dynomax Superturbo is the reason why it sounds crappy. Seriously i had one, and it made my exaust sound terrible. Just get a good 3" Vibrant muffler, IMO sounds wayyyy better..

Nice setup man! Im definately waiting for updated numbers!
you're wrong for that sig. LOL
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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Wussies. It's all in the tuning anyway.
Just for peace of mind I would do rods. Eagles preferably, because they come with ARP rod bolts. But yea, you're right. The tuning is very very vital. You could be leaving anywhere from 15-50whp hidden without a good tune.
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Originally Posted by tsaulz
Reichard sells a 2.7 antislip: http://www.reichardracing.com/pulleys.php



Time for some drag radials. Some 275 Nittos should help a lot.
Is there anything smaller than the 2.62 pulley?? I thought I heard of a 2.4?? or something floating around a while ago. I could be wrong.
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I already did the ARP rod bolts and I have the rev limiter extended to 7200. However, I have yet to find a race where I needed the extra rpms. The car sounds great and runs great when the a/f is right. I am still waiting to hear back from Jim Wolf
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Originally Posted by PharoNDmist
Is there anything smaller than the 2.62 pulley?? I thought I heard of a 2.4?? or something floating around a while ago. I could be wrong.
Here is a better question...why the hell would you want to running smaller than a 2.62 pulley? A 3.0 with a 2.87 and extended rev-limiter is already starting to over-rev the S/C. To be honest, if you want more than 13-14psi...you gonna have to start looking down the turbo road...

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Originally Posted by maximase86
Here is a better question...why the hell would you want to running smaller than a 2.62 pulley? A 3.0 with a 2.87 and extended rev-limiter is already starting to over-rev the S/C. To be honest, if you want more than 13-14psi...you gonna have to start looking down the turbo road...

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You should be able to make ~17 psi with a V1 t- or si-trim while only overspinning for a short duration near redline. Max RPM is 55000 and these blowers make 1-2 more psi than the s-trim with a given pulley .
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Well I finally got around to installing my boost gauge and the max I am seeing is 4-5 psi at redline. Do ya'll with superchargers have to tighten the belt every month or two? I am currently running this belt: 68.5" because this belt: 69" could not tighten enough to make 8 psi without rubbing. When I changed the belt I also cut off the post for the bracket directly under the blower pulley. We have had a lot of snow, maybe the belt has stretched from rough climate changes!? Oh, and when I see 13.5 psi on the boost gauge, I will take a little video from in cabin.
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Nah, I never ever have to tighten/readjust my belt. I set it, then forget it. Boost has always been consistent for me.
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Here is a better question...why the hell would you want to running smaller than a 2.62 pulley? A 3.0 with a 2.87 and extended rev-limiter is already starting to over-rev the S/C. To be honest, if you want more than 13-14psi...you gonna have to start looking down the turbo road...

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Not saying I want to run a smaller pulley than the 2.62, I was asking out of curiosity. I remember someone mentioning something ridiculously small as 2.4??. I had a turbo, but scrapped it. The s/c is good enough for me as a DD.
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Originally Posted by tsaulz
You should be able to make ~17 psi with a V1 t- or si-trim while only overspinning for a short duration near redline. Max RPM is 55000 and these blowers make 1-2 more psi than the s-trim with a given pulley .
I'll believe it when I see it. Then again, my s/c (the one mastercater has) is a V2 SC trim. When Ian originally did the math, the S/C was slighty over-spinning at 7200rpm. Always seeing the 13-14psi range.

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Nah, I never ever have to tighten/readjust my belt. I set it, then forget it. Boost has always been consistent for me.
Even when Ian has this S/C and had to do a belt change, we'd always seem to have some sort of tweaking to do with the belt to get things to stay consistent.

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Originally Posted by mastercater7
Well I finally got around to installing my boost gauge and the max I am seeing is 4-5 psi at redline. Do ya'll with superchargers have to tighten the belt every month or two? I am currently running this belt: 68.5" because this belt: 69" could not tighten enough to make 8 psi without rubbing. When I changed the belt I also cut off the post for the bracket directly under the blower pulley. We have had a lot of snow, maybe the belt has stretched from rough climate changes!? Oh, and when I see 13.5 psi on the boost gauge, I will take a little video from in cabin.
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You sure you don't have a boost leak? Especially from that section of pipe that is dented? Also you should verify you're taking the boost from a good source and that the fitting isn't leaking.

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Originally Posted by maximase86
Even when Ian has this S/C and had to do a belt chance, we'd always seem to have some sort of tweaking to do with the belt to get things to stay consistent.
Wasnt he using the V2 mounting plate? The only time Ive heard of people having belt issues was due to that plate. I only had to tighten my belt up once, and that was shortly after having a new belt go on. It seems that it streched a little after driving for a while. After that, havent had any more belt issues.
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Here is a better question...why the hell would you want to running smaller than a 2.62 pulley? A 3.0 with a 2.87 and extended rev-limiter is already starting to over-rev the S/C. To be honest, if you want more than 13-14psi...you gonna have to start looking down the turbo road...

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Well if your intercooled to get more boost back, also with a smaller pulley boost will come on sooner. No one is saying you have to take it to 7200. With a smaller pulley 6500 should be nice enough, especially with boost coming on sooner.
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Old 01-14-2009, 08:03 PM
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So I was able to tighten it up and the highest I saw was 9-10 psi. I could feel the belt slip and power going up and down until 6000rpms where it started to fall. I tightened it again and I dont know how it will do until I drive it tomorrow, but it should hit that 13 mark. Oh, and I spin third.......
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
Wasnt he using the V2 mounting plate? The only time Ive heard of people having belt issues was due to that plate. I only had to tighten my belt up once, and that was shortly after having a new belt go on. It seems that it streched a little after driving for a while. After that, havent had any more belt issues.
Nope, was using a V1 mounting plate. Never had a V2 plate.

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Originally Posted by maximase86
Nope, was using a V1 mounting plate. Never had a V2 plate.

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I was refering to Iansw, he didnt have a V2 blower with a V2 bracket?
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Originally Posted by Flava_24/7
I was refering to Iansw, he didnt have a V2 blower with a V2 bracket?
Nope. He originally had a V1. The S/C was leaking boost out the housing and had a busted oil fitting. Was going to get it rebuilt, but instead, traded up for the V2 directly with Vortech. Kept the V1 plate. So the car has never had the V2 plate.

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Originally Posted by maximase86
Nope. He originally had a V1. The S/C was leaking boost out the housing and had a busted oil fitting. Was going to get it rebuilt, but instead, traded up for the V2 directly with Vortech. Kept the V1 plate. So the car has never had the V2 plate.

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So I have been looking at methanol injection. Are any of you boosted guys running methanol/water injection? This is the kit I have been thinking about: AEM I am about to go drive the car and find out if I have finally got the boost/belt issue figured out. I also haven't heard anything from JWT yet.
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Are you getting any knock? If not, that will really only help you if you have a way to adjust your timing. Meth injection allows you to run more timing, but you have to have a way to adjust it. JWT = no go.
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Zack I'm not a fan of JWT because I think you can figure out how to do more with the car. I know JWT would be a set it and forget it, but you can't really tweak the car after that. I know you had a bad experience with the emanage, but I would just get a brand new one and go from there. Just about any modification you do will change the jwt tune. If you changed injectors or something just change the lag time and you're done, with JWT you would have to send the ecu back and let them figure it out without actually driving the car.
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Actually they will just send me an eprom so I just send back the core and its 100 bucks for it.
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So I just went out and took it for a spin. I am only making 10psi and thats around 5000-5500 rpms and it never goes above. The belt is really tight and I am afraid to tighten it any more than it already is. During the drive I found a new Saleen S281 Supercharged and we had some fun. He won but never put distance between us, his rear bumper was at my door. I had a 10.5 a/f in 2nd gear and a 9.5 in 3rd. Whats up with only hitting 10 psi with a 1 month old gatorback and a 2.87 pulley!?!? Should I get one from gates?
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So I just went out and took it for a spin. I am only making 10psi and thats around 5000-5500 rpms and it never goes above. The belt is really tight and I am afraid to tighten it any more than it already is. During the drive I found a new Saleen S281 Supercharged and we had some fun. He won but never put distance between us, his rear bumper was at my door. I had a 10.5 a/f in 2nd gear and a 9.5 in 3rd. Whats up with only hitting 10 psi with a 1 month old gatorback and a 2.87 pulley!?!? Should I get one from gates?
Dude thats embarssing!! lost to a 465 horsepower and 425 lb-ft of torque Mustang.... ull take em next time w the jwt in it

edit: I just looked dude, the thing only runs a mid 12, =/ might as well give me the 3.5 =]

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So I just went out and took it for a spin. I am only making 10psi and thats around 5000-5500 rpms and it never goes above. The belt is really tight and I am afraid to tighten it any more than it already is. During the drive I found a new Saleen S281 Supercharged and we had some fun. He won but never put distance between us, his rear bumper was at my door. I had a 10.5 a/f in 2nd gear and a 9.5 in 3rd. Whats up with only hitting 10 psi with a 1 month old gatorback and a 2.87 pulley!?!? Should I get one from gates?
Do any minor mods? Like change/adjust BOV? Any possibility of a boost leak?

IMO, I doubt the Gates will fare any better.
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