Streetzlegend goes to the darkside (3.5!)
My bad fellas, Ill be taking some video clips soon, probably today.
Right now I have 1,300 miles on the engine, everything is perfect, Emanage Ultimate is installed!!!!!!!!!, i am holding in my hand a new greddy map sensor that im going to change with my GM one (since EU dosnt properly read it), oh, and boost is up! its at 8psi right now. dont worry, video footage will be in soon!
Right now I have 1,300 miles on the engine, everything is perfect, Emanage Ultimate is installed!!!!!!!!!, i am holding in my hand a new greddy map sensor that im going to change with my GM one (since EU dosnt properly read it), oh, and boost is up! its at 8psi right now. dont worry, video footage will be in soon!
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,451
From: Near Archer High School, Ga
Quick update with pics:
Put in new ACL bearings and lubed them up with fresh new oil.
micropolished stock crank installed
Torqued main bolts, put oil on threads and seat surface (important)
Sexy picture, with pistons in, Rods ends/bearings were triple checked, then torqued down to 43ft-lb's (ARP 3/8" 2000 bolts).
Put in new ACL bearings and lubed them up with fresh new oil.
micropolished stock crank installed
Torqued main bolts, put oil on threads and seat surface (important)
Sexy picture, with pistons in, Rods ends/bearings were triple checked, then torqued down to 43ft-lb's (ARP 3/8" 2000 bolts).
VID UPDATE:
This is a clip trying out my new camera and also showing you guys how the car runs. PUT UP THE VOLUME! and click HD for better pic.
As you can see the boost is at about 7.5ish. a/f is in the mid/low 11's, timing is in the high teens, im pulling about 4 degree's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7igFuZtkLdk
This is a clip trying out my new camera and also showing you guys how the car runs. PUT UP THE VOLUME! and click HD for better pic.
As you can see the boost is at about 7.5ish. a/f is in the mid/low 11's, timing is in the high teens, im pulling about 4 degree's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7igFuZtkLdk
I have put up the pressure now to 10psi. it pulls insane. Pulls harder then my 3.0 at 15psi. so this should be at high 300 almost 400 possibly. It was kinda scary lol.
Now the problem im facing is probably the same problem 96sleeper was having, which is leaning up at higher rpms. I am adding ALOT of fuel just to maintain low 11s yet it still starts climbing up to high 11s and occasionally touches 12.0. this is WITH meth, which means without the meth it would be in the mid/high 12's. no good!!
Possible solutions: I have my fuel pressure set at 47psi constant, will raising it to 55psi still give me give me the same leaning conditions?
Or, I would have to go with wat 96sleeper did and do a real return style (instead of the rig us 3.5 swaps do), I have a DEK fuel rail I might use for this, I just need to weld the mounting brackets to the proper location since they dont line up, OR someone can give me a pre 2004 3.5 fuel rail I can use lol.
Now the problem im facing is probably the same problem 96sleeper was having, which is leaning up at higher rpms. I am adding ALOT of fuel just to maintain low 11s yet it still starts climbing up to high 11s and occasionally touches 12.0. this is WITH meth, which means without the meth it would be in the mid/high 12's. no good!!
Possible solutions: I have my fuel pressure set at 47psi constant, will raising it to 55psi still give me give me the same leaning conditions?
Or, I would have to go with wat 96sleeper did and do a real return style (instead of the rig us 3.5 swaps do), I have a DEK fuel rail I might use for this, I just need to weld the mounting brackets to the proper location since they dont line up, OR someone can give me a pre 2004 3.5 fuel rail I can use lol.
So iv been driving around, and yea its richer now at high 10s, you can tell theres a loss in power, perhaps because im being very very conservative, low timing, meth, and rich mixture = uber loss in power but extremely safe, and its been hot as hell this summer so better safe than sorry. Tomorrow I am going to put up the boost a pound or two.
Nah, im done with the break in process. I just wanna have the safest tune possible and make up the power with boost. Some like to lean it out or up the timing to make power, I like to make the power with boost instead. (safer). I wonder what Mexima's tune is like as far as a/f.
I got a question for everyone, I know for n/a 3.5 swaps, we leave the FPR with no vacuum so it has constant pressure. but for boosted application, is it a good idea to have vacuum line hooked up to the FPR so that pressure can raise 1:1?
at 10psi, raising about 5psi in fuel pressure dropped my a/f from high 11s to mid 10s, I am adding alot of fuel on the emanage. Now I am at 12.5psi, and a/f is in the low 12's, think I should raise fuel a few psi more? or just hook up the vac line to it? that way I dont have a constant high pressure (when out of boost).
at 10psi, raising about 5psi in fuel pressure dropped my a/f from high 11s to mid 10s, I am adding alot of fuel on the emanage. Now I am at 12.5psi, and a/f is in the low 12's, think I should raise fuel a few psi more? or just hook up the vac line to it? that way I dont have a constant high pressure (when out of boost).
I got a question for everyone, I know for n/a 3.5 swaps, we leave the FPR with no vacuum so it has constant pressure. but for boosted application, is it a good idea to have vacuum line hooked up to the FPR so that pressure can raise 1:1?
at 10psi, raising about 5psi in fuel pressure dropped my a/f from high 11s to mid 10s, I am adding alot of fuel on the emanage. Now I am at 12.5psi, and a/f is in the low 12's, think I should raise fuel a few psi more? or just hook up the vac line to it? that way I dont have a constant high pressure (when out of boost).
at 10psi, raising about 5psi in fuel pressure dropped my a/f from high 11s to mid 10s, I am adding alot of fuel on the emanage. Now I am at 12.5psi, and a/f is in the low 12's, think I should raise fuel a few psi more? or just hook up the vac line to it? that way I dont have a constant high pressure (when out of boost).
my car is set to 35 at idle and 45 and wot just like factory
VID UPDATE:
This is a clip trying out my new camera and also showing you guys how the car runs. PUT UP THE VOLUME! and click HD for better pic.
As you can see the boost is at about 7.5ish. a/f is in the mid/low 11's, timing is in the high teens, im pulling about 4 degree's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7igFuZtkLdk
This is a clip trying out my new camera and also showing you guys how the car runs. PUT UP THE VOLUME! and click HD for better pic.
As you can see the boost is at about 7.5ish. a/f is in the mid/low 11's, timing is in the high teens, im pulling about 4 degree's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7igFuZtkLdk
I just realized that I don't have an up to date video on what my car does when I go WOT in the top of 1st gear on street tires. haha I shift around 50mph and the tires keep spinning until about 55-60 into 2nd gear. I just don't have that awesome sound your car makes. Whistler tips might help?
Do your tires break lose everytime you go WOT in the top of 1st gear? I'm itching to come down to Florida real soon. I'd love to check out your car. Mini-meet anybody?
I just realized that I don't have an up to date video on what my car does when I go WOT in the top of 1st gear on street tires. haha I shift around 50mph and the tires keep spinning until about 55-60 into 2nd gear. I just don't have that awesome sound your car makes. Whistler tips might help?
I just realized that I don't have an up to date video on what my car does when I go WOT in the top of 1st gear on street tires. haha I shift around 50mph and the tires keep spinning until about 55-60 into 2nd gear. I just don't have that awesome sound your car makes. Whistler tips might help?
on top of 1st gear it does start to loosen up the tires a little bit, not full spinning, but once it shifts into 2nd gear, it completely spins freely (like if the road was wet) the first half of 2nd gear, eventually it catches and then pulls hard to 3rd. this was today, I was adding a couple of degrees on my timing since i had it really low at 16. The car is feeling very very strong, and its also 101degree's outside!!! hot as shet!! I cant imagine this thing in the winter when it drops to 80s lol
Last edited by streetzlegend; Jul 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM.
lol whistler tips lol..
on top of 1st gear it does start to loosen up the tires a little bit, not full spinning, but once it shifts into 2nd gear, it completely spins freely (like if the road was wet) the first half of 2nd gear, eventually it catches and then pulls hard to 3rd. this was today, I was adding a couple of degrees on my timing since i had it really low at 16. The car is feeling very very strong, and its also 101degree's outside!!! hot as shet!! I cant imagine this thing in the winter when it drops to 80s lol
on top of 1st gear it does start to loosen up the tires a little bit, not full spinning, but once it shifts into 2nd gear, it completely spins freely (like if the road was wet) the first half of 2nd gear, eventually it catches and then pulls hard to 3rd. this was today, I was adding a couple of degrees on my timing since i had it really low at 16. The car is feeling very very strong, and its also 101degree's outside!!! hot as shet!! I cant imagine this thing in the winter when it drops to 80s lol
Oh yeah. So 1st gear, you are able to barely go WOT since you aren't quite at full boost? I bet you are near or at full boost by the time 2nd gear hits. My powerband is way different since I'm All Motor. I make all my power between 5K and 7200rpm no matter the gear. I only spin the tires in the bottom of 2nd gear just b/c they were smoking so badly in the top of 1st and it carries that burnout deep into 2nd gear before it finally catches and the car takes off.
Well in 1st gear boost goes up to 8psi, then as SOON as 2nd gear engages i get an instant 12-13psi n spins like hell lol. from a stop if i go WOT, yea it will loose traction (out of boost, even though i got low compression its still pretty torquey), then catch and then loose traction when boost comes in, then 2nd comes and tires start dancing lol.
Streets, I know you like to keeo it safe, just as an FYI, I abused the crap out of my car, and it was always tuned with meth at about 12.3s afrs i never hurt anything, stock timing, i have the 392 whp dyno if you want to look at it lmk
thanx
As for a small update, I currently have 2,030 miles on the engine, its running great with no issues.
Boost is set at 15psi (14.8 to be exact), car feels awesome, 1st starts spinning once boost comes in, then shifts into 2nd and goes into burn out mode lol.
I am feeling that the methanol is coming up short with the engines demand, I feel power dropping off a little bit as rpm go up (when tires actually catch), I did some measuring of how much meth is being applied with my current nozzle and i think its way too small (4.8GPH of 50water/50meth). So I am going to put a second nozzle that flows about 2.35GPH(I might drill it out to be same size as the 4.8 one)
As for a small update, I currently have 2,030 miles on the engine, its running great with no issues.
Boost is set at 15psi (14.8 to be exact), car feels awesome, 1st starts spinning once boost comes in, then shifts into 2nd and goes into burn out mode lol.
I am feeling that the methanol is coming up short with the engines demand, I feel power dropping off a little bit as rpm go up (when tires actually catch), I did some measuring of how much meth is being applied with my current nozzle and i think its way too small (4.8GPH of 50water/50meth). So I am going to put a second nozzle that flows about 2.35GPH(I might drill it out to be same size as the 4.8 one)
Quick random update:
Boost is at 19-20psi, car feels pretty crazy lol, im getting some faint spark blowout, although I have plugs gapped at somewhere in .029, going to try slightly smaller. I just placed an order for the voltage booster. I havent had the chance to go on higher gear, so far only in 2nd and man it rev's out so quick, i one point i thought I had spark blow out and it was missing, when i look down it was boucing off the rev limiter lol. I didnt expect 2nd gear to be reving so damn fast.
Ill try and make a vid clip soon. and MAYBE dyno it eventually.
Boost is at 19-20psi, car feels pretty crazy lol, im getting some faint spark blowout, although I have plugs gapped at somewhere in .029, going to try slightly smaller. I just placed an order for the voltage booster. I havent had the chance to go on higher gear, so far only in 2nd and man it rev's out so quick, i one point i thought I had spark blow out and it was missing, when i look down it was boucing off the rev limiter lol. I didnt expect 2nd gear to be reving so damn fast.
Ill try and make a vid clip soon. and MAYBE dyno it eventually.