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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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I do not have anything to update it was cold as **** today so I did not even bother with the car, maybe tomorrow
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got a z32 maf the other week and mailed my ecu out to jwt

hopefully I can get to my buddies shop this week after work and install the feedpipe and make a pipe to connect the feed to the exhuast

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around what hp does the a32 MAF max out? if thats not a dumb question
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^Around 400whp (dynojet) depending on the maf location. This is based of my persnal reseach, not from my personal experience.
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I did not ask if they were talking about crank or wheel but jwt said around 500hp for the z maf and 350hp for maxima maf. I would guess it's to the wheels by looking at other org members setups

that's after the turbo
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^ Correct. There are a hand full of F/I guys in the low to mid 400's.
Hal made 476 on juice but I wasnt sure if he used the Emanage blue to make those #'s
http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-slips-...se-manual.html

http://www.dynomagic.com/images/HlH/...20Printout.jpg

Mardi clearly made over 500whp, but I never saw a dyno graph & I wasnt sure of his final maf location, I konw they both considered using the Blue/EU map option to make more power.


Jwt has a writeup (info) on the z32 & ford lightning maf but I lost the bookmark
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 03:52 AM
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^ Correct. There are a hand full of F/I guys in the low to mid 400's.
Hal made 476 on juice but I wasnt sure if he used the Emanage blue to make those #'s
http://forums.maxima.org/dyno-slips-...se-manual.html

http://www.dynomagic.com/images/HlH/...20Printout.jpg

Mardi clearly made over 500whp, but I never saw a dyno graph & I wasnt sure of his final maf location, I konw they both considered using the Blue/EU map option to make more power.


Jwt has a writeup (info) on the z32 & ford lightning maf but I lost the bookmark

there is a thread on my350 about the lighthing maf
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jwt statement about z maf good for 500hp might be correct, I am on 15psi on my 3.5 and its still not maxed out, my buttdyno estimate is low 400's. Actually I might do a quick log and see what the voltage is reading to see how close it is.
Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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jwt statement about z maf good for 500hp might be correct, I am on 15psi on my 3.5 and its still not maxed out, my buttdyno estimate is low 400's. Actually I might do a quick log and see what the voltage is reading to see how close it is.
your using a a32 maf or z32?
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
jwt statement about z maf good for 500hp might be correct, I am on 15psi on my 3.5 and its still not maxed out, my buttdyno estimate is low 400's. Actually I might do a quick log and see what the voltage is reading to see how close it is.
I'm going to have to sponser a dyno session for you lol.
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
jwt statement about z maf good for 500hp might be correct, I am on 15psi on my 3.5 and its still not maxed out, my buttdyno estimate is low 400's. Actually I might do a quick log and see what the voltage is reading to see how close it is.
yeah I would love to see what your maf voltage is at 5, 8, 10 and 12psi since these are what I plan to push
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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when ur installing u'll see that suprisingly enough there is a **** load of space there, my forward y pipe is completely 2.5" and couldve of went 2.75" and still cleared the mount with some modificaton to radiator fan shroud...
yeah I just installed the feedpipe and tucked in the notch of the front mount and your right there is alot of space. I going to see if a 3inch pipe will fit in there, if so that's where the down pipe is going so I do lose any ground clearance. If is doesn't I will run it under the tranny with 3inch oval pipe

will post pic's soon
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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new pic's added, hoping I have enough piping to finish today
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yeah I just installed the feedpipe and tucked in the notch of the front mount and your right there is alot of space. I going to see if a 3inch pipe will fit in there, if so that's where the down pipe is going so I do lose any ground clearance. If is doesn't I will run it under the tranny with 3inch oval pipe

will post pic's soon
told you man... and also before you go hacking at the maf wire to install the z32 maf, just splice the wire so both connectors are still installed, the z32 maf gives a really rough idle without a tune

i just switched back over to the a32 maf and there is a large difference... i kno your going for big whp but initally the a32 maf will get the job done before you decide to switch... just giving you the heads up...
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Old Jan 10, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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^Around 400whp (dynojet) depending on the maf location. This is based of my persnal reseach, not from my personal experience.
interesting, would your experience say suck through allows for the higher power range or push through??

im probably going to be going suck through if space allows so interested in topic, dont want to deal w a z32 maf.looking for 350-400 whp max
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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told you man... and also before you go hacking at the maf wire to install the z32 maf, just splice the wire so both connectors are still installed, the z32 maf gives a really rough idle without a tune

i just switched back over to the a32 maf and there is a large difference... i kno your going for big whp but initally the a32 maf will get the job done before you decide to switch... just giving you the heads up...
the ecu from jwt is going to be tuned for a z32 maf so ide will be fine. I am only looking for 400whp. I just would prefer not to drive around with maf voltage maxed out and the ecu unable to adjust

95blkmax maxed out his stock maf at around 375whp
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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I know I`m using my factory maf and hitting 395 whp. And hopefully going back to the dyno within two weeks after the IM swap. Looking to hit 425 whp on the factory maf.
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the ecu from jwt is going to be tuned for a z32 maf so ide will be fine. I am only looking for 400whp. I just would prefer not to drive around with maf voltage maxed out and the ecu unable to adjust

95blkmax maxed out his stock maf at around 375whp
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I know I`m using my factory maf and hitting 395 whp. And hopefully going back to the dyno within two weeks after the IM swap. Looking to hit 425 whp on the factory maf.
If this is the case then we are all fine then... im personally not looking for anymore than maybe 350whp at the most until the end of summer...
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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I know I`m using my factory maf and hitting 395 whp. And hopefully going back to the dyno within two weeks after the IM swap. Looking to hit 425 whp on the factory maf.
yeah but your not using a 4gen maf, if I remember correctly your maf housing is also larger than stock which changes things also. Also I didn't say you can't continue to make more power just that when the maf voltage is maxed out the ecu can no longer adjust safely and I would rather let the ecu adjust for the extra airflow and not just dump more fuel with a fmu or etc

it's just like a exhaust, if said exhaust only supports 300hp you can push more power with it but you will have higher egt's

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interesting, would your experience say suck through allows for the higher power range or push through??

im probably going to be going suck through if space allows so interested in topic, dont want to deal w a z32 maf.looking for 350-400 whp max
I dont have any personal experience maxing out mafs, but I have read the draw through allows for more power to be made.I have a draw through setup(early pfi kit) with z32 maf & the only draw back I have is stalling since the bov (to atmosphere) is after the maf. Use a recirculaying bov/ kit if you can & to be honest, a z32 maf is not hard to install or tune with. It took me 15mins to install the maf, solder, & heat shrink the pig tail.
A z32 aslo leans out the afr which allows you to make less corrections especially with bigger inectors

I still have the a32 maf & if I have time to finish the car this year I will test the theory (a32 draw through max whp)
Keep in mind no dyno reads the same but I will be using a dynojet(know to read high)for all my pulls.
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I know I`m using my factory maf and hitting 395 whp. And hopefully going back to the dyno within two weeks after the IM swap. Looking to hit 425 whp on the factory maf.
are you still on stock internals?

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I dont have any personal experience maxing out mafs, but I have read the draw through allows for more power to be made.I have a draw through setup(early pfi kit) with z32 maf & the only draw back I have is stalling since the bov (to atmosphere) is after the maf. Use a recirculaying bov/ kit if you can & to be honest, a z32 maf is not hard to install or tune with. It took me 15mins to install the maf, solder, & heat shrink the pig tail.
A z32 aslo leans out the afr which allows you to make less corrections especially with bigger inectors

I still have the a32 maf & if I have time to finish the car this year I will test the theory (a32 draw through max whp)
Keep in mind no dyno reads the same but I will be using a dynojet(know to read high)for all my pulls.
when did u get a z32 maf?
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[QUOTE=93altima;7373438]are you still on stock internals?

Yes on stock internals. I plan on installing the IM and retune the car. I also plan on lowering my high boost setting to 9 psi instead of 10 psi where it is at now. So it should make more power at a lower psi. I have a electronic cutout also going in at the same time so should have less back pressure and should see a nice gain.
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yea, im low 400s now but my MAF is maxing out after 5200 so maybe im mid 400's now.lol, idk
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yea, im low 400s now but my MAF is maxing out after 5200 so maybe im mid 400's now.lol, idk
and your tranny is holding good? knock on wood....

u guys are temptin me to run double digit psi's on my little old 3.0
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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and your tranny is holding good? knock on wood....

u guys are temptin me to run double digit psi's on my little old 3.0
I am going to run 10psi spring no boost controller

btw jwt has my ecu and said it would be done and shipped in 2 weeks but thats what they say to everyone. I am shooting for mid to late Feb.
Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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yea, im low 400s now but my MAF is maxing out after 5200 so maybe im mid 400's now.lol, idk
what have you changed other then injectors, any chance we can see your graph
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are you still on stock internals?

Yes on stock internals. I plan on installing the IM and retune the car. I also plan on lowering my high boost setting to 9 psi instead of 10 psi where it is at now. So it should make more power at a lower psi. I have a electronic cutout also going in at the same time so should have less back pressure and should see a nice gain.
what size turbo and intercooler piping are you using if you dont mind me asking?

thanks
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yea, im low 400s now but my MAF is maxing out after 5200 so maybe im mid 400's now.lol, idk
are you talk about hp? did you dyno it after you replaced the motor?
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yea, im low 400s now but my MAF is maxing out after 5200 so maybe im mid 400's now.lol, idk
you refering to a stock maf? thats odd, mine was maxed out a little over 300 only
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you refering to a stock maf? thats odd, mine was maxed out a little over 300 only
that's more like it, imo.
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I am going to run 10psi spring no boost controller

btw jwt has my ecu and said it would be done and shipped in 2 weeks but thats what they say to everyone. I am shooting for mid to late Feb.
With a 10 psi spring you will be running about 12-14 psi.
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With a 10 psi spring you will be running about 12-14 psi.
ouch thanks for the heads up, the wastegate I trying to get is a tial 44mm with a 6lb spring anyway, so maybe I'll run that for awhile to make sure everythng is cool then get a 8lb spring
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Originally Posted by 1swtmax

what size turbo and intercooler piping are you using if you dont mind me asking?

thanks

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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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ouch thanks for the heads up, the wastegate I trying to get is a tial 44mm with a 6lb spring anyway, so maybe I'll run that for awhile to make sure everythng is cool then get a 8lb spring
Why don't you just get a boost controller? They are cheap as hell.
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Why don't you just get a boost controller? They are cheap as hell.
I may just do that depending, if boost is rock steady at 6lbs and 8lbs I will not get a controller but if it varies by 2-3psi then I leave it a 6lbs and get a controller
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Piping 2 1/2 in to intercooler and 3 out to IM
wow thats a big turbo thanks



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