Darned O' unreliable VE's...;-)
12-12-2008, 07:08 AM
#42
12-12-2008, 07:55 AM
#43
Well then under that logic, the space shuttle is just as reliable as Boeing 737. Only difference is a 737 can fly cross country several times in a day opposed to months of downtime between flights to replace everything that broke during its last mission (if it didn't explode all together).
There's way too much emphasis on performance here. Both cars are slow, both are old as hell, only problem is one engine requires extensive work to keep from being an embarrassment when parked at a red light.
So what if I DELETE POSTS
that would most likely start arguments? I have better things to do than have to spend my life arguing about some old *** engines, and if I post something that I think is going to make some VE fanboys poop their pants, I delete it so I don't have to write **** like this.
Anyhow, all I said here was the truth, I didn't bash anything. So chill out, smoke a cigarette, ban someone, or do whatever you do to relax. Maybe play around with that die cast model I was nice enough to send you as a bonus.
There's way too much emphasis on performance here. Both cars are slow, both are old as hell, only problem is one engine requires extensive work to keep from being an embarrassment when parked at a red light.
So what if I DELETE POSTS
that would most likely start arguments? I have better things to do than have to spend my life arguing about some old *** engines, and if I post something that I think is going to make some VE fanboys poop their pants, I delete it so I don't have to write **** like this.Anyhow, all I said here was the truth, I didn't bash anything. So chill out, smoke a cigarette, ban someone, or do whatever you do to relax. Maybe play around with that die cast model I was nice enough to send you as a bonus.
Look man, we all know your hate for the ve engine(me more than most, from all your deleted posts talking sheit about the ve) but the point pearl and i are making is the ve is just as a reliable engine as the vg, as long as you know how to diagnose and fix it's issues.
BTW, what the hell is the vg so freaking great for anyway?..virtually inaccessible timing belt, which if it breaks will destroy the engine, crappy oem injectors that fail well before a ve injector even gets broke in.
, yeah, we all love replacing injectors @ $100 bucks a pop X6..Yet my first injector to go out was at over 300k(btw, the same injector was used in the vq series engine)..here, let me go on some more...75% of the vg's out there are mated to the exclusive vg crapomatic autofailic transmission. We all love to replace/rebuild these @ $1200 bucks a pop, yet the ve auto is good for well over 200k without any problems. 
Then lets talk about the ve vs.vg from a performance standpoint...yeah, we all know where this will go..
Then we talk about $100+ tune up costs on a vg ( plug wires $50<--if you get the cheap crap/ plugs $20/ Rotor cap $25/button $5-10) Yet the ve just needs plugs.
Filter location? c'mon dude, i am so low i can literally push a aluminum drink can on it's side around with my control arms, yet i have never dented a oil filter.
Don't start no sheit about the ve by comparing it to the vg..
BTW, what the hell is the vg so freaking great for anyway?..virtually inaccessible timing belt, which if it breaks will destroy the engine, crappy oem injectors that fail well before a ve injector even gets broke in.
, yeah, we all love replacing injectors @ $100 bucks a pop X6..Yet my first injector to go out was at over 300k(btw, the same injector was used in the vq series engine)..here, let me go on some more...75% of the vg's out there are mated to the exclusive vg crapomatic autofailic transmission. We all love to replace/rebuild these @ $1200 bucks a pop, yet the ve auto is good for well over 200k without any problems. Then lets talk about the ve vs.vg from a performance standpoint...yeah, we all know where this will go..Then we talk about $100+ tune up costs on a vg ( plug wires $50<--if you get the cheap crap/ plugs $20/ Rotor cap $25/button $5-10) Yet the ve just needs plugs.
Filter location? c'mon dude, i am so low i can literally push a aluminum drink can on it's side around with my control arms, yet i have never dented a oil filter.
Don't start no sheit about the ve by comparing it to the vg..
12-12-2008, 07:58 AM
#44
What are you talking about man? Everybody realizes that. And yeah, swapping engines, rebuilding or grounding VTCs every 20k miles, replacing knock sensors, coil packs, buying toyota filters and worrying that you might hit a rock and smash that horribly located filter destroying the engine is a lot to worry and think about compared to waiting until it's time to throw another timing belt on the VG.
My VG has had more problems than I've ever had with my VE (This is from personal experience - my family has taken care of it since new). Injector after Injector, third transmission, second timing belt, third water pump, an unknown stumbling idle condition when wet, CTS, 2nd oxygen sensor, MAF, ECU, Cap, Rotor, plugs, wires, etc. Just DUMPING money into it trying to get it to run right. I'm not saying VG's aren't a GREAT engine, but they have their own share of gremlins, and talk about ****ty oil filter placement
12-12-2008, 08:07 AM
#45
So what if I DELETE POSTS that would most likely start arguments? I have better things to do than have to spend my life arguing about some old *** engines, and if I post something that I think is going to make some VE fanboys poop their pants, I delete it so I don't have to write **** like this.
that would most likely start arguments? I have better things to do than have to spend my life arguing about some old *** engines, and if I post something that I think is going to make some VE fanboys poop their pants, I delete it so I don't have to write **** like this.
12-12-2008, 09:34 AM
#46
Pearl, sounds to me like you're the one getting your Manties in a wad. everyone else is just talking.
and umm yeah. my VG and VE both have been extremely reliable. I put 60k on my VG before I totalled the car and did nothing to it but put oil in it and drive.
I put 70k on my first VE over 6 years before I blew that engine. (spun a bearing and threw a rod at 7000rpm in 4th gear on the race track....).
Since rebuilding another VE 40k miles ago, I've done nothing but put oil in it and drive. and I drive the BEJEEZUS out of that car.
the second VE still has my original injectors, which now have 265,000 miles on them. Only once have I had issues with them and that's from using cheap gas. dumped a bottle of injector cleaner in it and it's been fine ever since.
Both engines are extremely reliable, given proper regular maintenance.
and umm yeah. my VG and VE both have been extremely reliable. I put 60k on my VG before I totalled the car and did nothing to it but put oil in it and drive.
I put 70k on my first VE over 6 years before I blew that engine. (spun a bearing and threw a rod at 7000rpm in 4th gear on the race track....).
Since rebuilding another VE 40k miles ago, I've done nothing but put oil in it and drive. and I drive the BEJEEZUS out of that car.
the second VE still has my original injectors, which now have 265,000 miles on them. Only once have I had issues with them and that's from using cheap gas. dumped a bottle of injector cleaner in it and it's been fine ever since.
Both engines are extremely reliable, given proper regular maintenance.
12-12-2008, 10:36 AM
#47
All it does is make him look bitter and cranky.
12-13-2008, 02:56 PM
#50
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Having owned both, I tend to refer to the VG as my workhorse. It was far less quirky as an engine, but the tranny was a ****inabox.
The VE I find requires more attention overall, but it has rewarded me with a driving experience the VG didn't and couldn't.
Whatev. I appreciate(d) them both for different reasons.
The VE I find requires more attention overall, but it has rewarded me with a driving experience the VG didn't and couldn't.
Whatev. I appreciate(d) them both for different reasons.
12-13-2008, 05:08 PM
#51
Having owned both, I tend to refer to the VG as my workhorse. It was far less quirky as an engine, but the tranny was a ****inabox.
The VE I find requires more attention overall, but it has rewarded me with a driving experience the VG didn't and couldn't.
Whatev. I appreciate(d) them both for different reasons.
The VE I find requires more attention overall, but it has rewarded me with a driving experience the VG didn't and couldn't.
Whatev. I appreciate(d) them both for different reasons.
But the wifes vg has been "less" of a workhorse, and more of "work on" horse I've had nothing but one issue after another since i bought the pos, i hate it. While the ole ve just keeps on running.
05-10-2010, 12:13 PM
#54
05-10-2010, 04:31 PM
#55
07-02-2010, 06:07 PM
#59
Here's a short video I took after installing my y pipe, some members on the 4th gen section wanted a video to see what it sounded like in real life driving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxZrOK_oYWg
07-02-2010, 06:09 PM
#60
Yea the car runs surprisingly well for for the miles. I've addressed all maintenance issues up to date and so far love to drive it everyday
Here's a short video I took after installing my y pipe, some members on the 4th gen section wanted a video to see what it sounded like in real life driving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxZrOK_oYWg
Here's a short video I took after installing my y pipe, some members on the 4th gen section wanted a video to see what it sounded like in real life driving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxZrOK_oYWg
but i was referring to this thread still ticking along..
07-02-2010, 06:16 PM
#62
07-02-2010, 07:19 PM
#64
07-03-2010, 12:26 AM
#66
Alot of VG's that are used and problems showing up is what's up.....I doubt if anyone on here is still driving one (VG) they originally owned from day 1......I'm an owner of a VG that was owned by 1 previous owner and it's been a fun car to drive so far even though it's modded quite alot....I really believe those injectors really did evolve into the bulletproof injector of today due to the VG shortcomings....But buying a new set @ $128 ea will solve most of our issues for a longtime if you're willing too spend that kind of money on a 20 yr old car (mine's a 1990)....
07-03-2010, 11:07 AM
#67
Alot of VG's that are used and problems showing up is what's up.....I doubt if anyone on here is still driving one (VG) they originally owned from day 1......I'm an owner of a VG that was owned by 1 previous owner and it's been a fun car to drive so far even though it's modded quite alot....I really believe those injectors really did evolve into the bulletproof injector of today due to the VG shortcomings....But buying a new set @ $128 ea will solve most of our issues for a longtime if you're willing too spend that kind of money on a 20 yr old car (mine's a 1990)....
Last edited by Augustus Maximus; 07-04-2010 at 12:15 AM.
07-03-2010, 01:24 PM
#68
4th gen gheyness? :matt93se:
07-04-2010, 01:09 AM
#72
... the car is in shambles mang. more problems than i can possibly list.. some related to the wreck it was in before i bought it, some developed after i got it. But either way, no FWD car is worth the amount of money I'd have to dump into this thing to get it right. At least the Z will have twice as much tq and will hold the road farther than most drivers will be brave enough to push it, so the expense is justified with it. And that's before the engine swap...
Last edited by CapedCadaver; 07-04-2010 at 01:11 AM.
07-04-2010, 09:22 AM
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