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Old Sep 29, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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having your tail whip behind you take a corner...
Or even better, "lift throttle oversteer." It works wonders.
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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its called e-brake on a front wheel drive car works especially well with a lot of wheel hp
and a lot of rain
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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if ur going fast enough, u dont need it
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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its called e-brake on a front wheel drive car works especially well with a lot of wheel hp
E-brake compared to the real thing is not the same thing. Don't even compare the two...
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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u didnt say drifting or a huge slide, u just said the rear coming out in a turn, e-brake will do that, whether you like it or not ive driven plenty of rear happy cars and of course its different, u make do with what u have
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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rear wheel drive mildly affects handling and stuff. a rear sway bar would make more handling difference than making your max RWD...only other cool thing i can think of is less torque steer and rear wheel burn outs

thats bs, the car being rwd would improve the handling ALOT, an rsb doesnt make quite the difference as the car being rwd, i guess also alot of it has to do with the way the car is driven, if you don't know how to handle a RWD or how IT handles its pointless .
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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thats bs, the car being rwd would improve the handling ALOT, an rsb doesnt make quite the difference as the car being rwd, i guess also alot of it has to do with the way the car is driven, if you don't know how to handle a RWD or how IT handles its pointless .
the simple fact of putting power to the rear (no suspension difference etc) would not imporve the handling that much. You need to drive the car entirely different to get the performance. Whats your defintion of better handling? like i said, just putting power to the rear without changing anything else, changes the handling, massive improvements? arguable... not saying ur wrong
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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the weight transfer would be right near 55/45 in the max with a rwd platform, that balance alone would account for amazing handling. im not arguing with u i think ur points are valid too, but i definately disagree about an rsb making more of a difference than converting to rwd. also "just putting power to the rear wheels" involves so much fabrication and changing alot of things, so i guess we're both right lol
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
To keep this post going, WTF is the point of making a Maxima RWD.
sorry for massively cutting your post dave, but what i was responding to was the idea of MAKING a maxima RWD, not the RWD platforms. So if your just running a custom fabbed totally home built RWD maxima with the same suspension you had before (the horrible rear maxima suspension especially) the simple change of power from front to rear would account for little of the handling change... taking advantage of a independant rear suspension, new shocks, struts, rear sway bar etc would create better handling than a FWD maxima could ever have.... we ARE both right
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SXN
we ARE both right
naturally and i definatetly don't doubt ur automotive intelligence, i've seen many of ur threads and have agreed whole heartedly on many of them, as well as made my opinion known if i didnt agree
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Dave... i believe it would cost a lot of money... possibly more than $20k

we are both right!
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Dave... i believe it would cost a lot of money... possibly more than $20k

we are both right!
i see u were feelin a lil left out
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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Well now that the RWD thing is resolved can we keep this thread on the main focus... HEADERS!!!
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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i see u were feelin a lil left out
lol max002 just stepped in to say ":attention"
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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lol max002 just stepped in to say ":attention"
haha so what do u think about the headers?
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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well so small, nothing to REALLy change to get too much of a gain, not to mention people have already tried to bore out their headers and stuff. the real power comes from removing cats, and straightening everything out. the guy who got the set makes it sound like the set made really noticeable changes, throughout the powerband. i dont think it will make much power...and just because someone did the butt test, im not convinced yet. i need dyno results
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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Basically we just need dyno results. I hope he just starts a new thread with the dyno results. This thread is long and drawn out. Also I'm trying to convince the guy who got the Cattman headers to do a before and after dyno also.
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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yup i agree with u. i wonder what the dyno will show. i really wish our exhaust didnt have so many curves in it, i truelly believe that would free up quite a few horsepower
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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One thing i dont think we know yet is the diameter of all the pipings for the headers. You want the final collector to equal the area of all the original pipes...key to making power, that with smooth bends. the y pipe taking out a cat is also important. my problem is i need mods i can remove to pass california visual tests and emissions... Y pipe, intake, cat back has to come off every time i get smog checked, and well in advance to clear all the CEL codes or else i will fail... i dunno about headers even if i do get gains.
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Where's the dyno, it's Tuesday...
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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Where's the dyno, it's Tuesday...

haha someones anxious
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RastaManMax
Where's the dyno, it's Tuesday...
its still monday somewhere...
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nismos14
haha someones anxious
Yeah, to say it nicely, they are playing with us! Tomorrow if nothing happens, this thread is going down in flames, straight to hell.
Old Sep 29, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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they have until midnite tomorrow their time zone
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MAX95RUS
Actually when I was talking about small companies with BS tuning parts, that hit Maxima market and run, I did not have Cattman in mind. I know that your company has been manufacturing quality-tuning parts for our cars for years, more expensive parts, but usually quality products cost more. Here is what I meant … After you announced here, about a week ago, that headers have been delivered to you and are ready for shipment, I’ve been checking with your website the whole week, and did not find any info regarding new headers. I think that I was not the only one who wondered what was the deal with new headers and deserved to get some answers. Just keep us updated. That is all.

Well, your comments relative to the website are sadly valid. I've got the coolest site about 95% ready, and so I'm in that limbo where I don't want to invest anything in the old one, and the new isn't quite ready...

There's a fair number of parts at this point that aren't on the old one, which isn't too bright, I'll admit, but there's only so much time in a day.

Anyhow, I'll be posting the picture below in its own thread, but since the guys that started this one stepped on mine earlier, its only fair to put it here first. Yeah, ours is $750, but just look at what you're getting... One-piece primary runners, equal length secondaries, the highest quality welding and great attention to detail.



Have to say, the photographer did well on this. If anyone wants a more detailed image, feel free to contact me directly.

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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best set of chromed out new zealand headers I have seen in a good while. lol

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Well, your comments relative to the website are sadly valid. I've got the coolest site about 95% ready, and so I'm in that limbo where I don't want to invest anything in the old one, and the new isn't quite ready...

There's a fair number of parts at this point that aren't on the old one, which isn't too bright, I'll admit, but there's only so much time in a day.

Anyhow, I'll be posting the picture below in its own thread, but since the guys that started this one stepped on mine earlier, its only fair to put it here first. Yeah, ours is $750, but just look at what you're getting... One-piece primary runners, equal length secondaries, the highest quality welding and great attention to detail.



Have to say, the photographer did well on this. If anyone wants a more detailed image, feel free to contact me directly.

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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holy hell batman, i've been blinded by the chrome AMAZING! they look great

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Well, your comments relative to the website are sadly valid. I've got the coolest site about 95% ready, and so I'm in that limbo where I don't want to invest anything in the old one, and the new isn't quite ready...

There's a fair number of parts at this point that aren't on the old one, which isn't too bright, I'll admit, but there's only so much time in a day.

Anyhow, I'll be posting the picture below in its own thread, but since the guys that started this one stepped on mine earlier, its only fair to put it here first. Yeah, ours is $750, but just look at what you're getting... One-piece primary runners, equal length secondaries, the highest quality welding and great attention to detail.



Have to say, the photographer did well on this. If anyone wants a more detailed image, feel free to contact me directly.

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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got my car dyno'd today...i cant release the numbers. its not mny fault. talk to stone racing.
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:10 PM
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don't tease us. you could have atleast said if it you think we'll be pleasantly suprised or we should stay closely tuned to see what all the hype was about. preview......?
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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did you sign a contract, pete?
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Hmmm... well are you happy or sad?

If the dyno indicated a billion hp, I don't see the problem with saying what the results were. If the dyno indicated minor to neg hp gains, then

Originally Posted by xloki77x
got my car dyno'd today...i cant release the numbers. its not mny fault. talk to stone racing.
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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guys, I myself did not get a copy yet of the runs. Wait till Thursday when I meet Pete to get the dyno graphs.

Nashua.
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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guys, I myself did not get a copy yet of the runs. Wait till Thursday when I meet Pete to get the dyno graphs.

Nashua.




first tuesday, now thursday.....
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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The second dyno is coming tuesday :in thought: but actually they will have to wait until thursday, little do they know! MUWAHAHA :end thought:

Nashua (Mike).
ok so i changed that a little...
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitiblast
best set of chromed out new zealand headers I have seen in a good while. lol

First of all, they're ceramic coated inside and out, and not chromed. Chrome is for show -- we don't do that -- and HPC coatings are for go.

Second, what the hell is wrong with New Zealand racing parts? L-o-l at yourself. Their racing and performance scene is one of the most dynamic and innovative in the world and involves about 90% less BS than what I see in the US.

In NZ and Oz you either make a good part and survive or you don't and you fail, no one survives on empty marketing crap. I've made it clear that these parts came from that part of the world from the beginning, and I'm proud of it.

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:32 PM
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In NZ and Oz you either make a good part and survive or you don't and you fail, no one survives on empty marketing crap. I've made it clear that these parts came from that part of the world from the beginning, and I'm proud of it.

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new zealand....where the REAL men are born
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattman
First of all, they're ceramic coated inside and out, and not chromed. Chrome is for show -- we don't do that -- and HPC coatings are for go.

Second, what the hell is wrong with New Zealand racing parts? L-o-l at yourself. Their racing and performance scene is one of the most dynamic and innovative in the world and involves about 90% less BS than what I see in the US.

In NZ and Oz you either make a good part and survive or you don't and you fail, no one survives on empty marketing crap. I've made it clear that these parts came from that part of the world from the beginning, and I'm proud of it.

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hey brian you should ignore peoples comments, by far whatever cattman has released for us vq owners is not only high quality but has performance to back it up, personally looking at those stone headers or watever thei called, the cattmn set looks 100* better and he actually has a dyno to back it up,brian i have my credit card out and ready to order these right this second, but honestly when is the ca/nlev batch coming, im patiently waiting and it would be nice if you can give some of us an expected time of when we will see the next batch,ill pay now and go on a special order list for them or something, hell ill pay extra to get a custom ca/nlev by next week, somethin!!
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by amaxeatinvtecs
hey brian you should ignore peoples comments, by far whatever cattman has released for us vq owners is not only high quality but has performance to back it up, personally looking at those stone headers or watever thei called, the cattmn set looks 100* better and he actually has a dyno to back it up,brian i have my credit card out and ready to order these right this second, but honestly when is the ca/nlev batch coming, im patiently waiting and it would be nice if you can give some of us an expected time of when we will see the next batch,ill pay now and go on a special order list for them or something, hell ill pay extra to get a custom ca/nlev by next week, somethin!!
you may want to read this thread
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guys, I myself did not get a copy yet of the runs. Wait till Thursday when I meet Pete to get the dyno graphs.

Nashua.
He says as he sits down to change the disappointing dyno graph...
Old Sep 30, 2003 | 07:29 PM
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He says as he sits down to change the disappointing dyno graph...
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