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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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I'm in a predicament, help a brother out. =)

I kinda have two choices here:
1. Keep my fully loaded Maxima, manual convert it, and save up for an S/C

or

2. Search for a manual 300ZX NA w/ T-Tops , and save up money for a TT conversion

I really like the ZX with it's FR engine, and T-Tops (gotta love the T-Tops). But the conversion will be a lot more. (Around $3960 in parts alone + labor) On the other hand, I can get a manual conversion (Don't know exactly the price on this conversion) + a used S/C for around $2600-$3300 + labor.

Hm... which option would you guys lean towards? And oh btw, which setup will be faster?
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 1NICEMAX
I kinda have two choices here:
1. Keep my fully loaded Maxima, manual convert it, and save up for an S/C

or

2. Search for a manual 300ZX NA w/ T-Tops , and save up money for a TT conversion

I really like the ZX with it's FR engine, and T-Tops (gotta love the T-Tops). But the conversion will be a lot more. (Around $3960 in parts alone + labor) On the other hand, I can get a manual conversion (Don't know exactly the price on this conversion) + a used S/C for around $2600-$3300 + labor.

Hm... which option would you guys lean towards? And oh btw, which setup will be faster?
How many miles you got on the max? If a lot, you may wanna choose 2.
If few and the car is in very good shape, stick with what you got. You forgot to include a price difference between the same mileage/condition Maxima and 300ZX (if you find one reasonably priced). Are you mechanically inclined or you got a hook up at a garage?
Conversion-wise alone it would be cheaper with 300zx. But overall with selling the current one and finding a 300 you would spend more on option #2
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Why not just find a ZX with TT to start with? I mean, that way you can just spend the money to recondition it.

The 300ZX would be way faster if it was TT than a maxima SC. I know the maxima would be running near 300hp, and depending on what else you did to it, you could get it up above 300hp, but the Z will still be faster. I mean, with those twin turbo, they are ridiculous.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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save yourself some time and buy a 300zx TT to begin with,
your going to run into countless problems/issue with the conversion.

I would also give the same advice for the maxima 5spd conv. but thats just my opinion and many others would disagree.

....i would think the max would be faster, i came upon a 300zx TT and it didnt get me by much and im a stock 99se auto. I am an excellent driver and gave it all she had. it was very close in the beginning with my car ahead a bit but then around 40-60mph the fairlady began to show its worth.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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In a race I would put my money on a 5psd SC max at 10psi vs. a stock TT Z.

If you plan on modding the Z even after the engine swap then go for the Z. If all you wanted to do was drive a stock TT Z then go for the SC max.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Brudaddy
Why not just find a ZX with TT to start with? I mean, that way you can just spend the money to recondition it.

The 300ZX would be way faster if it was TT than a maxima SC. I know the maxima would be running near 300hp, and depending on what else you did to it, you could get it up above 300hp, but the Z will still be faster. I mean, with those twin turbo, they are ridiculous.
thats not true brudaddy. maybe a few yrs ago, but with the technology of today that is becoming a myth..the s/c is now capable of producing 20lbs compared to 6lbs . i beat a stock twin turbo with 9lbs of boost
in a short run, but honestly i had to zap em when he got to close.
i was running 9lbs at the time and i had the edge until we reached higher speeds thats when that sec turbo kicked in i guess..
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Brudaddy
Why not just find a ZX with TT to start with? I mean, that way you can just spend the money to recondition it.

The 300ZX would be way faster if it was TT than a maxima SC. I know the maxima would be running near 300hp, and depending on what else you did to it, you could get it up above 300hp, but the Z will still be faster. I mean, with those twin turbo, they are ridiculous.
Do you know what your talking about or do you just think "Twin Turbo, it must be fast". A stock TT Z is good for low 14's.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Sorry Maciek, I have 88k miles on my 99 Max in very good condition. The thing is I'm not gonna sell the Maxima, my dad's gonna keep it while I search for a ZX for around less than 7 grand. And with that money I can't get a TT. I actually have 3 grand on me to spend. If I find a 300ZX around 7 Grand, my dad's going to give me 4 grand to buy the car along with my 3 grand. So either spend 3 grand on Maxima, or drive an NA ZX for a while until I have money to spend on it. Get my drift? Sorry for the confusion.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
Do you know what your talking about or do you just think "Twin Turbo, it must be fast". A stock TT Z is good for low 14's.
Actually, I think they are mid-13's. How fast are the S/C'ed Maxima's with no other mods on it?
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
Do you know what your talking about or do you just think "Twin Turbo, it must be fast". A stock TT Z is good for low 14's.
I agree... With a S/C max with a smaller pully and mevi, it would pull quite hard up top... Would most likely destroy the stock/lightly modded TT.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1NICEMAX
Actually, I think they are mid-13's. How fast are the S/C'ed Maxima's with no other mods on it?
No...........
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Buy a 240sx and do the sr20 swap with the left-over money.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1NICEMAX
I kinda have two choices here:
1. Keep my fully loaded Maxima, manual convert it, and save up for an S/C

or

2. Search for a manual 300ZX NA w/ T-Tops , and save up money for a TT conversion

I really like the ZX with it's FR engine, and T-Tops (gotta love the T-Tops). But the conversion will be a lot more. (Around $3960 in parts alone + labor) On the other hand, I can get a manual conversion (Don't know exactly the price on this conversion) + a used S/C for around $2600-$3300 + labor.

Hm... which option would you guys lean towards? And oh btw, which setup will be faster?

u need to keep this in mind as well.

anyone who sees a souped up 300zx expects a turbo or something under the hood.

but rarely anyone expects a 300+ hp engine under the hood of a maxima that has rims and bodykits.

so what im trying to say is that the maxima can be an ultimate sleeper while the 300zx cant.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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i30mike, I really thought the TT ZX was faster than that. 14's stock?

C MAX, I didn't know that the maxima could beat a TT ZX with just 9psi boosted.

DoGGy, I agree with you on the sleeper, esp if the max can be made faster.

1. Everyone that runs boost is saying that the max is faster...so go with that for the reason of sheer speed.
2. For the reason of $$$$$....go with the max.
3. For sleeper status....go with the max.
4. For the max having four doors and is totally comfortable, while still being fast...go with the max.
5. Rather than trying to swap to a 5spd, just find another max cheap that is 5spd.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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C MAX, I didn't know that the maxima could beat a TT ZX with just 9psi boosted.
the 300 tt does the 1/4 mile the same as a s/c max. its in the mid 14
give or take. thats a stock s/c max. first let me explain some basics
everyone around me is race oriented pepper seed, vinny ten, turbo people everyday its a new story. anyway i might have the slowest of the bunch these guys are running 7 sec to 10 sec cars easy anybody
who knows me on the org can vouch. im basically fully equipped with every option for some serious a$$ whuppings. my boy who did
morpheus17 turbo has a tt zx.. we went out for a run and at least three quarter of a mile i pulled hard, but what i said is i had to juice him because
he started to creep on me, so yes the top end is higher than our cars
but with forced induction we are one tough cookie..and by the way
he is afraid to race me now, i wonder why
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by C MAX
the 300 tt does the 1/4 mile the same as a s/c max. its in the mid 14
give or take. thats a stock s/c max. first let me explain some basics
everyone around me is race oriented pepper seed, vinny ten, turbo people everyday its a new story. anyway i might have the slowest of the bunch these guys are running 7 sec to 10 sec cars easy anybody
who knows me on the org can vouch. im basically fully equipped with every option for some serious a$$ whuppings. my boy who did
morpheus17 turbo has a tt zx.. we went out for a run and at least three quarter of a mile i pulled hard, but what i said is i had to juice him because
he started to creep on me, so yes the top end is higher than our cars
but with forced induction we are one tough cookie..and by the way
he is afraid to race me now, i wonder why

Its probably mid to high 13s with the S/C if you have traction. That and you have to be 5 speed. Autos are considerably slower.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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ok lets see here....300ZX or Maxima.... well since I have both 94 300ZX slicktop (toy) runs 14.8 at 98mph at stage 3 intake/exhaust/ecu.... and a 96 Max SE daily driver....I'm torn....granted a TT swap is not an easy task.... but it has been done many times.... my Z will recive a TT motor in the next cpl of yrs and I plan on 550+ hp to the rear wheels... that will require upgraded turbos and intercoolers ect.... there are many lightly moded 300ZX TTs running 400rwhp... they are still heavy by a cpl hundred lbs compared to a Max... but the Zs will run 12s with bolt ons and a good driver... one slicktop conversion I know of has run 11's and laid 500+rwhp last time on the dyno...later
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