qaulity radar detector
04-09-2006, 07:42 AM
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Hey guys im thinkin of gettin a redar detector cuz i recently got really dark tint and it would be helpful to know where the po-po is so i can crack the windows a bit. Any of u guys have know of any good ones or are they all crap, i guess they go off like all the time?
04-09-2006, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by NewEngSurf
Hey guys im thinkin of gettin a redar detector cuz i recently got really dark tint and it would be helpful to know where the po-po is so i can crack the windows a bit. Any of u guys have know of any good ones or are they all crap, i guess they go off like all the time?
Overall I'd go with the Beltronics Pro RX65.
http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=9090
04-09-2006, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LTU_max
04-09-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NewEngSurf
Hey guys im thinkin of gettin a redar detector cuz i recently got really dark tint and it would be helpful to know where the po-po is so i can crack the windows a bit. Any of u guys have know of any good ones or are they all crap, i guess they go off like all the time?
04-09-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
I find it interesting that his results totally conflict with those published by several magazine tests, including Car & Driver's annual radar detector shoot out........................seems rather biased against one manufacturer rather than towards another........................
The only big difference with the V1 is the arrows and slighty better laser than the other two.
Also buying them on ebay can be a gamble, alot of them are usually refurbished and the sellers wont hold up to their warranties. You also cant get a factory warranty from Valentine, Beltronics, or Escort if you buy them from ebay
04-09-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rsly33
What tests does it conflict with? That is what most tests have to say about the big 3. Valentine 1 always winning in Car and Driver might have something to do with the full page ad they run in every single issue...
The only big difference with the V1 is the arrows and slighty better laser than the other two.
Also buying them on ebay can be a gamble, alot of them are usually refurbished and the sellers wont hold up to their warranties. You also cant get a factory warranty from Valentine, Beltronics, or Escort if you buy them from ebay
The only big difference with the V1 is the arrows and slighty better laser than the other two.
Also buying them on ebay can be a gamble, alot of them are usually refurbished and the sellers wont hold up to their warranties. You also cant get a factory warranty from Valentine, Beltronics, or Escort if you buy them from ebay
04-09-2006, 11:17 AM
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Well, before getting V1 i read on different forums and from what i saw, websites favor Escort and Beltronics, but 'users' always give thumbs up to V1. Also, i dont remember many people going from V1 to Escort or Beltronics, but the opposite.
04-09-2006, 11:44 AM
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I disagree with a few things here...one, the money you are paying for a detector is basically for brand name here, i have done my own research and for being an owner of a detector for 3 years i have found that range is determined on the police vehicle's angles and range in which he is directing. I own an earlier model cobra (an average detector at best) and have a windshield tint. In contrary about range with tints, i sometimes pick up Kband radars from 100 ft to a mile. I have picked them up so far away i thought it was interference cuz it stayed on so long. Bottom line, i have known people with valentines and passports that go off just as much as $100 ones. I have learned to live with beeps and flashing lights and all that cuz it saves my a$$ when i need it too, and annoys me when i dont.
04-09-2006, 12:56 PM
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have u seen the date on that Car & Driver comparison they use in ad's?? its pretty old and since then, the Escort 8500 is now the 8500 X50...which is a great unit that i have used on many roadtrips. Also, the beltronics rx65 is a great unit and is the same unit as the escort 8500 X50, only the Rx65 version offers voice mode and has KU band detection. I opted for the Beltronics RX65 b/c of this. Also note that beltronics and Escort are the same company! and if you purchase on ebay or any other non-official site...there is no warranty!
-Walter
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04-09-2006, 01:10 PM
#20
Originally Posted by kormax97
v1 is better because it works better. who cares about little features like "multi-step dim/dark control"
And lots of people like the dimming features so their car isnt glowing red at 2AM
Who cares about little features like arrows?
04-09-2006, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by James007
Really, i didnt know you could do that... is that a special type of radar detector or just any model.. please get back with me!!!!!
Its not a special type of detector, you can use anyone. What happens is its installed after market. There's brackets that can be installed behind the grill where the detector fits between them. Then u can run a switch to the dash.
I know Range Rover come with them factory installed
04-09-2006, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rsly33
No, it does not work better. They all work about the same, especially the RX65 and X50 since they are owned by the same company. Tons and tons of comparisons have been done and have shown this. A bunch of these tests even show the X50 and RX65 outperforming the V1
Originally Posted by rsly33
And lots of people like the dimming features so their car isnt glowing red at 2AM
Who cares about little features like arrows?
Who cares about little features like arrows?
04-09-2006, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by James007
Really, i didnt know you could do that... is that a special type of radar detector or just any model.. please get back with me!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VALEN...ayphotohosting
04-09-2006, 01:56 PM
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The most intelligent radar detector dissertation you'll ever read.
from studying this stuff quite a bit over the last several years, i've come to the following conclusion:
performance:
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Valentine One - 100 out of 100 points
Escort Passport 8500 x50 or Beltronics rx65 Pro - 95 out of 100 points
price (including case):
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V1 - $399 + $29 = $428. (only available online; never goes on sale)
Escort Passport 8500 x50 or Beltronics rx65 Pro - $299. (I got my x50 with BLUE display for $260 from an authorized-retailer brick-and-mortar store)
It's really a simple matter of comparing price to performance ratios. In my mind, the x50 and rx65 are a far better deal than the V1. Any real performance differences between them are marginal at best. Any reviews we read, whether online or in print, are bound to be biased one way or another because they're either selling something or raking in the advertising dollars. As far as the V1 arrows go, they're overrated. If any detector goes off, the only rational thing to do is to slow down (or at the least, stop accelerating), until you know what caused it, so I don't see how the arrows add any value.
In conclusion, people who buy the V1 do so for the brand name recognition and its "premium" status. No doubt, for many years it was the superior detector. But these days, it's simply not convincing that that is still the case.
Note that all of this is my opinion and you're more than welcome to disagree with it. Just don't expect me to listen!
performance:
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Valentine One - 100 out of 100 points
Escort Passport 8500 x50 or Beltronics rx65 Pro - 95 out of 100 points
price (including case):
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V1 - $399 + $29 = $428. (only available online; never goes on sale)
Escort Passport 8500 x50 or Beltronics rx65 Pro - $299. (I got my x50 with BLUE display for $260 from an authorized-retailer brick-and-mortar store)
It's really a simple matter of comparing price to performance ratios. In my mind, the x50 and rx65 are a far better deal than the V1. Any real performance differences between them are marginal at best. Any reviews we read, whether online or in print, are bound to be biased one way or another because they're either selling something or raking in the advertising dollars. As far as the V1 arrows go, they're overrated. If any detector goes off, the only rational thing to do is to slow down (or at the least, stop accelerating), until you know what caused it, so I don't see how the arrows add any value.
In conclusion, people who buy the V1 do so for the brand name recognition and its "premium" status. No doubt, for many years it was the superior detector. But these days, it's simply not convincing that that is still the case.
Note that all of this is my opinion and you're more than welcome to disagree with it. Just don't expect me to listen!
04-09-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kormax97
your telling me that x50 and rx65 have better range and picks up laser better than v1? show me... shouldn't be hard to find 1 independant study out of the tons and tons of comparasons.
wouldn't you want to know where the signal is comming from?
wouldn't you want to know where the signal is comming from?
I would like the arrows, I just dont think its worth the extra $100 for them
04-09-2006, 03:36 PM
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If you get hit with a Laser/Lidar......good luck having your detector pick it up. The Lidar sys is a very fine narrow beam...unlike radar. And since it is aimed at Front plate/headlights, the chances of your detector picking it up is very slim. I've used the Lidar Gun on cars B4..it is very precise 
and it is rarely aimed near the windshield.
and it is rarely aimed near the windshield.
04-09-2006, 03:37 PM
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If you get hit with a Laser/Lidar......good luck having your detector pick it up. The Lidar sys is a very fine narrow beam...unlike radar. And since it is aimed at Front plate/headlights, the chances of your detector picking it up is very slim. I've used the Lidar Gun on cars B4..it is very precise and it is rarely aimed near the windshield.
-Walter
and it is rarely aimed near the windshield.-Walter
04-09-2006, 04:44 PM
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04-09-2006, 05:17 PM
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i have a v1 and it has saved my *** many time, and as the adds say and the person above, those little arrows are awsome, i would not use another detector without them.
all those radar test site are often funded pretty heavily by radar detector companies theselves.
also you can always get you radar detector upgraded through Valentine, and they are exelent with warrenty, and custom service. my vote is for th v1 i love mine, and will buy nthing eles
all those radar test site are often funded pretty heavily by radar detector companies theselves.
also you can always get you radar detector upgraded through Valentine, and they are exelent with warrenty, and custom service. my vote is for th v1 i love mine, and will buy nthing eles
04-09-2006, 05:21 PM
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FINAL ANSWER-
If you have the $$ go V1, if you done go 8500 X50 or The bel one, all three are real good real solid choices, and you will be happy with all of them, just dont get a ****ty cobra like me im sellin it....
If you have the $$ go V1, if you done go 8500 X50 or The bel one, all three are real good real solid choices, and you will be happy with all of them, just dont get a ****ty cobra like me im sellin it....
04-09-2006, 07:15 PM
#33
Originally Posted by ManualMaxima
also you can always get you radar detector upgraded through Valentine, and they are exelent with warrenty, and custom service. my vote is for th v1 i love mine, and will buy nthing eles
Its all a matter of opinion for which one you prefer, but in reality, a V1 is $100 more expensive for arrows and slighty better laser.
If you are that concerned with laser, put that $100 towards a jammer
04-09-2006, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottV
The arrows make ALL the difference on the Valentine One. I've had the 8500 and got rid of it, then got the V1 and will never go back. It's worth the money.
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