4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

replaced ks but still have cel

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-20-2007, 10:12 AM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
replaced ks but still have cel

I just replaced it about 5 min ago but i still have a check engine light. I wrapped the ks in duct tape and had some gunk from the tape so i wiped it down with chorox wipes and installed. Did i ruin the ks but taping then cleaning it? It doesnt seem any faster with the adv timing so im guessing its not fixed.

Last edited by bigwee; 12-20-2007 at 10:15 AM.
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:18 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
bpk01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Posts: 104
Did you reset your ECU?
bpk01 is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:25 AM
  #3  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
I didnt think 4th gens needed that?
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:34 AM
  #4  
wants an I35
iTrader: (23)
 
ROCKART's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,284
the knock sensor will never cause a CEL. the cel is on from something else. that is why it didnt disappear when you replaced your KS.

and you didnt feel a difference after replacing it?
did you sand/clean the grounding points?

how did you know it was faulty to begin with?

and waht the hell is chrox? and why did you put duct tape around the KS?
ROCKART is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:36 AM
  #5  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
I had the codes scanned, it was the only code. Ill try the sanding...clorox and to keep the sensor from damaging.
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:39 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
91parkave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 177
WTF? reset your ECU drive for a little and see if it comes back read the stickies to follow the procedure of resseting the ECU
91parkave is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:41 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Snypa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: I-75 4th_Laud
Posts: 7,396
Originally Posted by ROCKART
the knock sensor will never cause a CEL. the cel is on from something else. that is why it didnt disappear when you replaced your KS.

and you didnt feel a difference after replacing it?
did you sand/clean the grounding points?

how did you know it was faulty to begin with?

and waht the hell is chrox? and why did you put duct tape around the KS?
are you +ive about the knock not causing cel?
Snypa is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:42 AM
  #8  
wants an I35
iTrader: (23)
 
ROCKART's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,284
yes. quite.
ROCKART is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:46 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
91parkave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 177
if the knock sensor dosent cause a code then why is there a knock sensor code in the ECU??
91parkave is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 10:51 AM
  #10  
wants an I35
iTrader: (23)
 
ROCKART's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,284
its called a ghost code. it piggybacks in on other codes. a dead KS alone will not trip the CEL. you only see it when something else triggers the ECU.
ROCKART is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 11:22 AM
  #11  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
well i reset the ecu and it stayed off the whole ride but turned on after i restarted the car.
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 11:27 AM
  #12  
wants an I35
iTrader: (23)
 
ROCKART's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,284
what other codes is it showing ?
ROCKART is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 11:50 AM
  #13  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
Dont know Im going to have to try reading the codes
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 11:53 AM
  #14  
wants an I35
iTrader: (23)
 
ROCKART's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,284
just go to autozone. 5 mins they will do it for free. i guarantee you have another code.
ROCKART is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 12:34 PM
  #15  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
oh ok i didnt know they did it for you. I sanded the grounds and took it back out and it gets up and goes a little better. So hopefully that was it. But i have to run out to autozone now.
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 01:49 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Double E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 350
It's going to be a little while till the car reacts to the new KS. Before I changed it, I even got the light reset and it came back after a week. Again, it only showed the KS code.

After changing it, mine took 2 weeks of routine driving for the light to go out.

I've mentioned this before and the results/knowledge of others appears contrary to this ...but the only code AutoZone gave was for the KS. As stated above , it cleared and a week later it came back, still was for the KS. Then I changed the KS. I suppose your results may vary.
Double E is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 01:54 PM
  #17  
wants an I35
iTrader: (23)
 
ROCKART's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Delray Beach, FL
Posts: 3,284
i felt the difference immediately after driving with the new knock sensor.
MAKE SURE YOU ARE USING PREMIUM GASOLINE. if that still doesnt fix ur lag, it could be several other things (fuel filter, throttle body/IACV, dead plugs, etc.)

and in the stickies for 4th gen it states clearly that the KS will not trip the CEL.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=385898
it starts on post #27
ROCKART is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 02:23 PM
  #18  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
It gave me codes 1302, 0707, 0201. On the 0201 says "ignitor circuit malfunction (No. 5)". Does that mean to check spark plug, harness, or ignition coil 5?
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 02:33 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Cdg2125's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 4,640
did you replace the ks harness? Nobody ever thinks to replace it. That was the problem for me. KS was fine. the harness was the issue.
Cdg2125 is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 02:34 PM
  #20  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
wouldnt the harness come on as a ks fault?
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 02:40 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
rxm6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 359
Do this:

Make sure you are running 91 and take the KS and touch it to the intake plenum and leave it there. It's now grounded/bypassed. Then start your car, wait for the idle to settle, put on your emergency brake, and put the car in drive (if you have an auto). If your Drive idle is 600 then your KS is working properly. If the Drive idle is 550 or lower than 600, then your KS is no good and you need a new one. Or, if you have you own code reader, once you bypass the KS, the code should either clear or on next startup clear (without and ECU reset).

If you bypass your knock sensor and you have a SES light, check to make sure all the connections you took off were put back. I once spent a whole day trying to figure out a SES light (which was an EGR code) and I even bought Seafoam to clean out the EGR from the plenum. Only to figure out later that I had unplugged the little green connecter right at the entrance to where the KS is and hadn't put it back together. It was a dark day in my mechanic history and I decided from then on to always have a cup of coffee right before attempting any mechanical operation.
rxm6 is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 02:41 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
rxm6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: San Jose, California
Posts: 359
Originally Posted by bigwee
wouldnt the harness come on as a ks fault?
Yes...that was my issue as well.
rxm6 is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 03:03 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
iTrader: (16)
 
kzoosho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Grand rapids Mi
Posts: 4,029
Where can you get the harness from.
kzoosho is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 03:56 PM
  #24  
Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
bigwee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 86
Originally Posted by kzoosho
Where can you get the harness from.
http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...Category_Code=
bigwee is offline  
Old 12-20-2007, 09:59 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Cdg2125's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CT
Posts: 4,640
Originally Posted by bigwee
wouldnt the harness come on as a ks fault?
thats what i said. the ks code is a ks code. It can be anything wrong with the ks or the harness or anything. Go to nissan its $15 dollars...
Cdg2125 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PH98I30
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
26
10-12-2015 05:01 AM
dvcamp
6th Generation Maxima (2004-2008)
7
09-18-2015 10:17 AM
dcam0326
General Maxima Discussion
4
09-08-2015 11:02 PM
Maxima30
5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003)
2
09-07-2015 06:13 PM
A32goldylocks
4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999)
2
09-02-2015 06:39 AM



Quick Reply: replaced ks but still have cel



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:26 PM.