NWP Engineering Engine Torque Link Bracing Kit Installation and REVIEW!!!!!
#42
IF this kit came with 2 braces that would be a better deal. That way the braces "help" the motor mounts and prevent them from wearing out faster.
#43
There is a reason why we bought this car in the first place. Cheap, Reliable, cheap parts, Good support, quick enough to beat or keep up most cars in its class and lower, good looking and well luxary.
I mean these cars go for 2-3 grand. So why would someone pay say $1200-$1400 bucks for a say a limited slip Diff that will get you good performance but at the same time it is not really a necessities too have for a a car that does less then 15 secs? It is bad enough that people laugh at us for thinking are maximas are quick. When they are. Not too mention one of the best price/performance ratio cars out right now next too a Mustang and those are not even reliable as much.
#44
Well and the fact that the car is getting old and it is an inexpensive car right now used as it is. Why pay so much (like 7-8times the cost of the product) for an upgraded performance part for partial gains too medicre gains?
There is a reason why we bought this car in the first place. Cheap, Reliable, cheap parts, Good support, quick enough to beat or keep up most cars in its class and lower, good looking and well luxary.
I mean these cars go for 2-3 grand. So why would someone pay say $1200-$1400 bucks for a say a limited slip Diff that will get you good performance but at the same time it is not really a necessities too have for a a car that does less then 15 secs? It is bad enough that people laugh at us for thinking are maximas are quick. When they are. Not too mention one of the best price/performance ratio cars out right now next too a Mustang and those are not even reliable as much.
There is a reason why we bought this car in the first place. Cheap, Reliable, cheap parts, Good support, quick enough to beat or keep up most cars in its class and lower, good looking and well luxary.
I mean these cars go for 2-3 grand. So why would someone pay say $1200-$1400 bucks for a say a limited slip Diff that will get you good performance but at the same time it is not really a necessities too have for a a car that does less then 15 secs? It is bad enough that people laugh at us for thinking are maximas are quick. When they are. Not too mention one of the best price/performance ratio cars out right now next too a Mustang and those are not even reliable as much.
How do you know how much it actually cost him to produce this part? Please post the thread where he listed his production cost, or are you just ASSuming?
Having custom parts machined in small quantities is NOT cheap, but obviously you have some insider information, so please share.
Last edited by mtrai760; 07-20-2009 at 10:35 AM.
#45
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Wheel hop is reduced drastically. I will let you know more as soon as I go boost.
As far as this product. Go ahead and make it... I would love to see how it looks and functions for less than 50 bucks. You can't expect a SMALL company to offer CUSTOM parts for mass produced prices. We drive maximas.
As far as this product. Go ahead and make it... I would love to see how it looks and functions for less than 50 bucks. You can't expect a SMALL company to offer CUSTOM parts for mass produced prices. We drive maximas.
#46
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And the saying is true, you gotta PAY to PLAY. I have done plenty of mods cheap on my car and I have spent the money when needed. I already have poly filled mounts and this mod STILL made a difference to me. IMO it won't be as big of a difference in an automatic, but in a manual car I believe this is a must.
#50
I dunno, I'm all for supporting Aaron, don't get me wrong... and I certainly have no issue "paying to play"...but I only see this as a significant improvement if you've already got a weak link somewhere. When I re-did my suspension a couple years ago, installed coilovers, new ball joints and end links and put ES bushings everywhere, plus ES motor mounts, I had a rock solid TIGHT front end that I could not get to wheel hop even if I tried, and you know I put the car through some violent launches... In fact doing those improvements I even got rid of the J-bars I had with no decrease in traction at all.
#51
im grateful for the fact that Aaron makes parts for our cars that no one else makes, and they are very high quality. Im hoping to pick this up in another paycheck or two and try it out, especially since I always wanted the J-bars and I get pretty bad wheel hop.
And as far as the value of our maximas...my maxima is priceless to me. Plus, Id rather buy a cheaper car, and have money to mod it, than buy an expensive car and not have any money to mod.
And as far as the value of our maximas...my maxima is priceless to me. Plus, Id rather buy a cheaper car, and have money to mod it, than buy an expensive car and not have any money to mod.
#53
#54
Obviously, [COLOR="Magenta"]
How do you know how much it actually cost him to produce this part? Please post the thread where he listed his production cost, or are you just ASSuming?
Having custom parts machined in small quantities is NOT cheap, but obviously you have some insider information, so please share.
How do you know how much it actually cost him to produce this part? Please post the thread where he listed his production cost, or are you just ASSuming?
Having custom parts machined in small quantities is NOT cheap, but obviously you have some insider information, so please share.
but anyway.... my question is how much engine vibration is there after installing this??
Last edited by f550maranello2; 07-21-2009 at 05:11 PM.
#55
And what do you expect, some domestics have been using all but the same parts for the last 30 years. You can sell parts for cheap, because it's cheap to make cheap parts.
#57
I have ES & poly filled everything & You will be surprised how much the drivetrain still moves.
I can clearly see how this product will increase my performance(traction), & I am glad I dont have to weld up a ugly, home made brace anymore
I can clearly see how this product will increase my performance(traction), & I am glad I dont have to weld up a ugly, home made brace anymore
#58
Read my post. I said discuss the product all you want. I will ban people for excessive smack talking or going totally off on tangents like the posts which you can't see (but that moderators can) because they were deleted.
#59
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I dunno, I'm all for supporting Aaron, don't get me wrong... and I certainly have no issue "paying to play"...but I only see this as a significant improvement if you've already got a weak link somewhere. When I re-did my suspension a couple years ago, installed coilovers, new ball joints and end links and put ES bushings everywhere, plus ES motor mounts, I had a rock solid TIGHT front end that I could not get to wheel hop even if I tried, and you know I put the car through some violent launches... In fact doing those improvements I even got rid of the J-bars I had with no decrease in traction at all.
#60
im grateful for the fact that Aaron makes parts for our cars that no one else makes, and they are very high quality. Im hoping to pick this up in another paycheck or two and try it out, especially since I always wanted the J-bars and I get pretty bad wheel hop.
And as far as the value of our maximas...my maxima is priceless to me. Plus, Id rather buy a cheaper car, and have money to mod it, than buy an expensive car and not have any money to mod.
And as far as the value of our maximas...my maxima is priceless to me. Plus, Id rather buy a cheaper car, and have money to mod it, than buy an expensive car and not have any money to mod.
#61
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I just ordered these from NWP. Kevlo's review was a big factor in deciding to unearth the wallet and wipe all the dust off.
I'm looking forward to this little mod, and will post a review once it's installed and some spirited miles are put on it. It will be put on a 4gen 5sp. w/coilovers, poly motor mounts, relatively new tie rods, raxles, and end link bushings; this should be a nice enhancement.
I'm looking forward to this little mod, and will post a review once it's installed and some spirited miles are put on it. It will be put on a 4gen 5sp. w/coilovers, poly motor mounts, relatively new tie rods, raxles, and end link bushings; this should be a nice enhancement.
#62
I just ordered these from NWP. Kevlo's review was a big factor in deciding to unearth the wallet and wipe all the dust off.
I'm looking forward to this little mod, and will post a review once it's installed and some spirited miles are put on it. It will be put on a 4gen 5sp. w/coilovers, poly motor mounts, relatively new tie rods, raxles, and end link bushings; this should be a nice enhancement.
I'm looking forward to this little mod, and will post a review once it's installed and some spirited miles are put on it. It will be put on a 4gen 5sp. w/coilovers, poly motor mounts, relatively new tie rods, raxles, and end link bushings; this should be a nice enhancement.
#64
I'm courious to know if this will stop front end vibration though. I just changed all of my mounts and bushing and I'm getting vibration when taking a right turn with hard acceleration. It's got to be the motor moving.
Last edited by deezo; 08-27-2009 at 07:52 AM.
#65
Less than 100 on ebay for all 4. Just had all of mine replaced and they came with the brackets.
I'm courious to know if this will stop front end vibration though. I just changed all of my mounts and bushing and I'm getting vibration when taking a right turn with hard acceleration. It's got to be the motor moving.
I'm courious to know if this will stop front end vibration though. I just changed all of my mounts and bushing and I'm getting vibration when taking a right turn with hard acceleration. It's got to be the motor moving.
I made some ULTRA-ghetto metal motormount braces on my 3rd gen (i say ghetto, because i made them with a hacksaw and a strip of metal which was WAAAAY too thin for the job) and for the day or two before the rear one broke, my manual car was SMOOTHER than ANY automatic you've EVER driven... guaranteed. If I had a 95-03 Maxima I would eat nothing but Ramen for a month straight if that's what I had to do to afford this product. It will literally change how you feel about your car (for the better). And you can bet your **** that Aaron's product won't break like mine did lol.
#67
#68
If you guys would have came to Maxus 09' it was available for $140...lol, I have had mine since Maxus and i love it, once i seen it available on the NWP site I was so excited I tracked Aaron down pulled him out of the bar and bought it immediately.
Buy it you will not regret it one bit, well worth the the asking price of $170.
Completely eliminated my Wheel hop, and yes i did have ES motor mounts and urethane diy filled Side motor mount and Tranny mount prior to installing this and still had wheel hop...I also leave it hooked up all the time
Buy it you will not regret it one bit, well worth the the asking price of $170.
Completely eliminated my Wheel hop, and yes i did have ES motor mounts and urethane diy filled Side motor mount and Tranny mount prior to installing this and still had wheel hop...I also leave it hooked up all the time
#71
THAT's what i like to hear.. that will probably make me buy this product.. that jerking is INCREDIBLY annoying
#72
Does this torque link help reduce wheel spin, especially on right turns? Really irritating when you have to make a quick right turn and the right front tire goes up in smoke and the transmission immediately shifts into 2nd. Or you have to hold the shifter in 1st and hope you don't smoke a $150 tire too badly.
#73
A 32 oz soda at a fast food place has a cost to the restaurant of 8-9 cents including the cost of the cup yet they charge $1.49. There are a lot more costs than just the base materials involved.
#74
My car definitely wheel hops in the rain.
Does this torque link help reduce wheel spin, especially on right turns? Really irritating when you have to make a quick right turn and the right front tire goes up in smoke and the transmission immediately shifts into 2nd. Or you have to hold the shifter in 1st and hope you don't smoke a $150 tire too badly.
Does this torque link help reduce wheel spin, especially on right turns? Really irritating when you have to make a quick right turn and the right front tire goes up in smoke and the transmission immediately shifts into 2nd. Or you have to hold the shifter in 1st and hope you don't smoke a $150 tire too badly.
#75
It's been half a year now... I know the OP is still psyched about this product. Any other comments from long-term, 4th genners running with the Torque Link?
Personally, I've always felt that the ES Torque Mount Bushings were one of the best mods I've ever done, so this feels like more of the same. I'm ordering this in 2 weeks for my '03 6MT, and am looking to get psyched with some positive feedback.
Personally, I've always felt that the ES Torque Mount Bushings were one of the best mods I've ever done, so this feels like more of the same. I'm ordering this in 2 weeks for my '03 6MT, and am looking to get psyched with some positive feedback.
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