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Old May 10, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Old May 11, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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As far as I know Toyota/Lexus are not part of GM. GM is the #1 automaker nthe world, Toyota is #3, they are not the same. Yes, they have made cooperative efforts to build cars in the past Prizm/Corolla for example, but they are two totally different companies. GM has no influence on how Toyota builds cars and if you haven't noticed, GM's cars are horribly unreliable and Toyota's cars are extremely reliable. If they were the same company how would this be the case? If anything Toyota is is the largest foreign THREAT to GM.
Don't quote me on this, but I think Renaut is the largest automaker worldwide, then VW then GM.
Old May 11, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Good, I'm not the only one who think Audi's are pretty much overpriced and overrated cars.

Hmmmmmm....

Audi S4 2.7L AWD bi-turbo 6 speed making ~250 HP 0-60 mid 5's
320HP+ with about $1500 in it making it probably a high 12's - low 13's car doing 0-60 in low 5's - high 4's.
Audo A6 2.7L AWD bi-turbo 6 speed - same mod numbers, bigger car, a little slower in the 1/4, but you get more room

Both can be had for ~$37,000 with 5000 miles on them or a smidge over $40k new and all the trimmin's.

BMW 330ci (not EVEN real competition for the S4) 3.0L 225 HP I-6 N/A 0-60 in low 6's
34,990 BASE MODEL
BMW M3 (definitely competition) 3.2 I-6 333 HP @7900 RPM 0-60 4.8 secs
$45,900 Base, used can be MORE expensive with low miles

All these cars have EXCELLENT German build quality, tight suspensions, etc. All said and done, I'd rather have an M3 that would cost ~$55,000 after options and such, but that Audi S4 is a GREAT value. If you want pimp luxury and blazing speed while having a quiet comfy cabin and impeccable handling, then the S4 has it all - at about the same price as an optioned out 330 which won't be NEARLY as fast or have the special interior woodgrain that S4 comes with. For speed, the WRX can be totally tricked out for $5000 plus base price putting it under $30k, but c'mon, that's not pimp, that's just cool

I know everyone's different with different tastes but saying Audi is overpriced and overrated is just NOT true at all. Saying you don't prefer Audi's is another thing.

(Can't wait to get my NEW S4 when the v8 version comes out )
Old May 11, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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Hmmmmmm....

Audi S4 2.7L AWD bi-turbo 6 speed making ~250 HP 0-60 mid 5's
320HP+ with about $1500 in it making it probably a high 12's - low 13's car doing 0-60 in low 5's - high 4's.
Audo A6 2.7L AWD bi-turbo 6 speed - same mod numbers, bigger car, a little slower in the 1/4, but you get more room

Both can be had for ~$37,000 with 5000 miles on them or a smidge over $40k new and all the trimmin's.

BMW 330ci (not EVEN real competition for the S4) 3.0L 225 HP I-6 N/A 0-60 in low 6's
34,990 BASE MODEL
BMW M3 (definitely competition) 3.2 I-6 333 HP @7900 RPM 0-60 4.8 secs
$45,900 Base, used can be MORE expensive with low miles

All these cars have EXCELLENT German build quality, tight suspensions, etc. All said and done, I'd rather have an M3 that would cost ~$55,000 after options and such, but that Audi S4 is a GREAT value. If you want pimp luxury and blazing speed while having a quiet comfy cabin and impeccable handling, then the S4 has it all - at about the same price as an optioned out 330 which won't be NEARLY as fast or have the special interior woodgrain that S4 comes with. For speed, the WRX can be totally tricked out for $5000 plus base price putting it under $30k, but c'mon, that's not pimp, that's just cool

I know everyone's different with different tastes but saying Audi is overpriced and overrated is just NOT true at all. Saying you don't prefer Audi's is another thing.
(Can't wait to get my NEW S4 when the v8 version comes out )

German cars do rock, but who has an extra 20000 to blow... Stick with a max..... bang for the buck and all.
Old May 11, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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This is impossible

Some decisions you just have to get out and make yourself. First of all, dont lock yourself into Max v IS300. Their not even the same class of cars. My recomendation, get out there and test drive. Each of these cars have a half-dozen worthy competitors in there class. Take your time and look whats on the horizon. There are lots of new cars coming soon and you might want to see whats coming so your not lusting after a new car 6 months later. But most of all test drive

My vote G35 Sport Coupe

But you should make up your mind by experiencing these cars in person; everyone has a bias.
Old May 11, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by 97GLE
This is impossible

Some decisions you just have to get out and make yourself. First of all, dont lock yourself into Max v IS300. Their not even the same class of cars. My recomendation, get out there and test drive. Each of these cars have a half-dozen worthy competitors in there class. Take your time and look whats on the horizon. There are lots of new cars coming soon and you might want to see whats coming so your not lusting after a new car 6 months later. But most of all test drive

My vote G35 Sport Coupe

But you should make up your mind by experiencing these cars in person; everyone has a bias.
yeah i guess i shouldnt have narrowed my choices down that much....but the thing is...my 95 maxima is my FIRST car i have had it for 3 years now and i have not had one problem with it...i like how the max looks with all the mods and i like the 02 alot i jus cant get away from nissan....i dont really knwo too much about cars so i think nissan is stuck with me just cuz it was my first car and thats y i like the 02 maximas a lot....not to mention the touch screen navigation system....i donno maybe i am just a maxima freak or something....the only reason that i was considering the lexus is because i wont be putting too many mods on my new car once/if i get it soon...ill prolly wait a year or so jsut to save money and what not and i figured that the lexus already lookes kinda sport plus the tail lgihts look good i think and it has navigation which i want a lot......but i really do appreciate all of the advice you guys have been giving me and i am looking at ALL the cars that you guys have mentioned and i learned a lot more about they types of cars that are actually out there....so again i thank you guys a lot as i feel this was a good thread i started and very helpful to anyone who wants to decide between a 02 max and another type of car!!!! keep it up guys! thanx, Tom
Old May 11, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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Yeah, GM and Toyota have entered on ventures. but im pretty sure that the lexus cars are all toyota, as they are just JDM toyotas with new badging, and i think some are made in the US. The IS300 would be good, but the IS430 would be the best choice. in superstreet magazine there is an IS300 with a widebody kit, 19" rims with huge lips , and hes gonna but a supra turbo motor and a 6 speed. Id take that over the max. sorry to say it but there is so much more u can do with an altezza than a maxima. I dont think its a chick car. girls just like them. and if u dont want a car that girls like, then you are unfortunately married or not into girls. lol. but it would be easier if u were comparing cars that we fairly similar. but get the altezza
Old May 11, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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Re: Re: Lexus is nice but don't forget

Originally posted by Paradoxish


I still think you should really look into the G35. It'd only be a few thousand more expensive than the Maxima...
I agree, either Maxima or G35

But I'd go full route w/ the Maxima since the G35 is an all-new model and as always 1st yr productions are prone to having recalls (like the '02 Altima), but to each his own
Old May 11, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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I understand what you're saying, but I did say I THINK they are overpriced and overrated. You're right though, I should have just said I don't like Audi's and left it at that. By the way, has the build quality improved on them in recent years? I remember when the build quality on them wasn't so hot a few years ago. Where I live there are MANY BMWs around. I don't even notice them anymore, even the M3's. At the local car shows, I always see lots of men in the 40s with their M3s and M5s with aftermarket rims that they dropped alot of cash on and no other mods at all. I just yawn and pass them by. Half of them don't even know what kind of rims and tires they have on their car, they just know they paid $1500 a piece for them. I KNOW thats not you and you know a lot about cars, I'm just generalizing. When I turn 25, I'm gonna get something like a 350z, RX8, or a Skyline if they are out and not too pricey and trick it out completely. Its very rewarding beating a car that costs 10k to 30k more than yours did.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Big_Ham
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Hmmmmmm....

Audi S4 2.7L AWD bi-turbo 6 speed making ~250 HP 0-60 mid 5's
320HP+ with about $1500 in it making it probably a high 12's - low 13's car doing 0-60 in low 5's - high 4's.
Audo A6 2.7L AWD bi-turbo 6 speed - same mod numbers, bigger car, a little slower in the 1/4, but you get more room

Both can be had for ~$37,000 with 5000 miles on them or a smidge over $40k new and all the trimmin's.

BMW 330ci (not EVEN real competition for the S4) 3.0L 225 HP I-6 N/A 0-60 in low 6's
34,990 BASE MODEL
BMW M3 (definitely competition) 3.2 I-6 333 HP @7900 RPM 0-60 4.8 secs
$45,900 Base, used can be MORE expensive with low miles

All these cars have EXCELLENT German build quality, tight suspensions, etc. All said and done, I'd rather have an M3 that would cost ~$55,000 after options and such, but that Audi S4 is a GREAT value. If you want pimp luxury and blazing speed while having a quiet comfy cabin and impeccable handling, then the S4 has it all - at about the same price as an optioned out 330 which won't be NEARLY as fast or have the special interior woodgrain that S4 comes with. For speed, the WRX can be totally tricked out for $5000 plus base price putting it under $30k, but c'mon, that's not pimp, that's just cool

I know everyone's different with different tastes but saying Audi is overpriced and overrated is just NOT true at all. Saying you don't prefer Audi's is another thing.
Old May 13, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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well i was looking at some more cars and i came to this one...

acura cl type s

what do you guys think???

http://acura.com/model_CL/cl_spec_results.asp
those r the specs..

thanx again...
Old May 13, 2002 | 09:33 AM
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hold out

i say hold out and get the 2k3 max but thats just me...
Old May 13, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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Re: hold out

Originally posted by caneyebus
i say hold out and get the 2k3 max but thats just me...
y is that???

does anyone know the specs on the 03 maxima???
Old May 13, 2002 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by hockeyghst
well i was looking at some more cars and i came to this one...

acura cl type s

what do you guys think???

http://acura.com/model_CL/cl_spec_results.asp
those r the specs..

thanx again...

I would wait for a few months because you'll be kicking yourself if you can get a real cheap '02 or an '03 of better quality. None of us really no what the '03 will actually be like but what do you have to loose if you wait....... The acura cl"s type" will still be around and look the same with the same spec. We all wish we had the same dilema you're having now
Old May 13, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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Get the IS 300.

If not, go for an Audi S4.
Old May 13, 2002 | 04:24 PM
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is there n e one with any suggestions about the acura cl type s???
Old May 13, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by hockeyghst
is there n e one with any suggestions about the acura cl type s???
I do and I'm not an acura fan. I don't like them and probably never will. If you want another 4 door go with another Max unless you can afford something better like a BMW or something. Maxima's are nicer then any acura and if they do have a v8 with all or rear wheel drive you'll probably be ****ed you didn't wit for 03. Still I say Z! Have fun makin your decision.
Old May 13, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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The CL-S is nice, but the G35 Coupe is better Yeah, I'd wait for the fall season to get it, too. That car is going to be such a head turner. A Japanese sport coupe that not only has the power and suspenion, but looks very good and is stylish to boot. That thing might even eclipse the 350Z.

Enuff about the G35 coupe. The CL-S is alright

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Originally posted by hockeyghst
is there n e one with any suggestions about the acura cl type s???
Old May 13, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
The CL-S is nice, but the G35 Coupe is better Yeah, I'd wait for the fall season to get it, too. That car is going to be such a head turner. A Japanese sport coupe that not only has the power and suspenion, but looks very good and is stylish to boot. That thing might even eclipse the 350Z.

Enuff about the G35 coupe. The CL-S is alright

DW


DW

ok i think im missing something here with the 03 maximas.....does anyone know of any specs on them???? what is going on wiht the 2003 model....i am clueless on it...someone please inform me....cuz i might have to wait now.....if i have to i will......besides the longer i wait the more money ill have saved up
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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I'd wait if I were you. 350z, G35 coupe, RX8, EVO IV will all be out or soon to be out. That boring Acura will still be there if you still want it then.

Originally posted by hockeyghst


ok i think im missing something here with the 03 maximas.....does anyone know of any specs on them???? what is going on wiht the 2003 model....i am clueless on it...someone please inform me....cuz i might have to wait now.....if i have to i will......besides the longer i wait the more money ill have saved up
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Get the IS. Two of my friends have them. They look good, are decently quick, awesome interior, awesome build quality...and the thing that suprised me the most? My friend Nikki took his IS to Lexus for scheduled maint. and they gave him a RX300 loaner for two days. That's pretty good customer service to me. He said he woulda been happier with a GS4, but anyways

LEXUS IS300 > 2k2 maxima
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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Bad thing about lexus service is you pay an arm and a leg for it. My friend pays about 150 bucks for an oil change. Ofcourse they do other stuff and routine checks... but $150 dollars???
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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the only thing i know about the 2k3 max is that it is a v8 with like 275 horses...aledgedly
Old May 15, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by caneyebus
the only thing i know about the 2k3 max is that it is a v8 with like 275 horses...aledgedly
275out of a V8 from Nissan seems a bit low to me... especially when you can get a 3.5 V6 with at least 260... I was expectin at least 300
Old May 15, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by hdortez

275out of a V8 from Nissan seems a bit low to me... especially when you can get a 3.5 V6 with at least 260... I was expectin at least 300
hmmm......that be nice.......300+ hp on a four door family sedan....YESSSSSSSSS
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