THE NEW Let's sue nissan for our 15hp thread
Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
i wouldn't trust the results from a rented one.
and this will be done in front of professionals who are some of the best in their fields and will make sure that everything is put together better then it originally was.
i wouldn't trust the results from a rented one.
and this will be done in front of professionals who are some of the best in their fields and will make sure that everything is put together better then it originally was.
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get rid of this thread already!
John,
Steve,
If we want to keep this quiet from Nissan, why not delete this thread, and open up a new one w/sticky...
Then Close the thread. The only "post" would be the original Thread, asking for volunteers in or around the philly area...and giving contact info if you'd like information, or would like to offer up your car...
Nissan already knows that much, if they are watching (and why wouldn't they be?)
On the "closed/stickied" thread, we could have contact info for "Serious Inquiries" in the form of an email address, fax number...phone number wouldn't be worth posting...to many freaks out there...
if we don't want Nissan to know what we're doing behind the scenes...lets get rid of this thread...and close all future threads related to this...all contact should be via email with a few people in the know....with announcements/updates done by moderators...or the original poster of the closed/stickied thread...
It only makes sense...
-vq
Steve,
If we want to keep this quiet from Nissan, why not delete this thread, and open up a new one w/sticky...
Then Close the thread. The only "post" would be the original Thread, asking for volunteers in or around the philly area...and giving contact info if you'd like information, or would like to offer up your car...
Nissan already knows that much, if they are watching (and why wouldn't they be?)
On the "closed/stickied" thread, we could have contact info for "Serious Inquiries" in the form of an email address, fax number...phone number wouldn't be worth posting...to many freaks out there...
if we don't want Nissan to know what we're doing behind the scenes...lets get rid of this thread...and close all future threads related to this...all contact should be via email with a few people in the know....with announcements/updates done by moderators...or the original poster of the closed/stickied thread...
It only makes sense...
-vq
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Everyone has it backwards. All cars sold in the U.S. have their HP represented as SAE Net. SAE Gross hasn't been used since the muscle car days.
Originally posted by itdood
I've been searching for the standard applied in the US but can't find it. Is it Gross HP? If it's gross, then there goes the 15 HP because that's done without mufflers or any accessories being driven, the pullies aren't even installed, from what I've read, the alternator isn't even being driven.
Net HP, they install all the accessories / pulleys and go through the muffler(s).
If they mis-presresented HP according to standards they should be held accoutnable. I think some folks here got their panites in a bunch because I seemed ant-law suit. I'm just trying to be realistic. Sorry I'm in late, I just bought my '03 4 days ago.
Besides my thinking on Net v. Gross HP, what about tire size? The bigger ya go the less HP you are going to measure on a dyno. Perhaps because of the 17" rims, the gear ratio wasn't close enough to 1:1?
I've been searching for the standard applied in the US but can't find it. Is it Gross HP? If it's gross, then there goes the 15 HP because that's done without mufflers or any accessories being driven, the pullies aren't even installed, from what I've read, the alternator isn't even being driven.
Net HP, they install all the accessories / pulleys and go through the muffler(s).
If they mis-presresented HP according to standards they should be held accoutnable. I think some folks here got their panites in a bunch because I seemed ant-law suit. I'm just trying to be realistic. Sorry I'm in late, I just bought my '03 4 days ago.
Besides my thinking on Net v. Gross HP, what about tire size? The bigger ya go the less HP you are going to measure on a dyno. Perhaps because of the 17" rims, the gear ratio wasn't close enough to 1:1?
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Originally posted by johnvt1111
HAHA I asked the lawyer the same question the other day, and he was like "John what the **** you think we're gonna say in court, we went to the local AVIS and rented a max, pulled the engine out then dyno'd it and then took it back"....plus then he said AVIS would sue our asses then probably too. Whoever the guy is in philly why can't u do it, automotive engineers will be there, you will have guarentees and it will just take a few hours of your time. Everything will be put back perfectly, and will be in writing......the other guy talking about how we should keep this low, your a brilliant man, i wish you were on this thread the whole time, some people just don't understand and u sum'd it up totally, but don't say too much because nissan is watching this thread
HAHA I asked the lawyer the same question the other day, and he was like "John what the **** you think we're gonna say in court, we went to the local AVIS and rented a max, pulled the engine out then dyno'd it and then took it back"....plus then he said AVIS would sue our asses then probably too. Whoever the guy is in philly why can't u do it, automotive engineers will be there, you will have guarentees and it will just take a few hours of your time. Everything will be put back perfectly, and will be in writing......the other guy talking about how we should keep this low, your a brilliant man, i wish you were on this thread the whole time, some people just don't understand and u sum'd it up totally, but don't say too much because nissan is watching this thread
Simply put: All you have to state is the VIN# of the vehicle dynoed. Who cares who the owner is?...
And by the time you present the argument to court, AVIS would have already sold that car to some poor soul.
And does their rental agreement really say: I HEREBY AGREE NOT TO PULL THE ENGINE APART & DYNO IT FOR ANY REASON
...just asking... maybe it does say that
You wouldn't want to dyno my car, cause I pamper it with $7/qt synthetic oil, Injector cleaner every 7K, and 94 octane gas all the way. Plus I had a 2500mi break-in-period, and always let my car warm up before driving.
BTW: How long will it take?... do I hear "free motor mounts"?...
G
Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE
If we rent a car...
Simply put: All you have to state is the VIN# of the vehicle dynoed. Who cares who the owner is?...
And by the time you present the argument to court, AVIS would have already sold that car to some poor soul.
And does their rental agreement really say: I HEREBY AGREE NOT TO PULL THE ENGINE APART & DYNO IT FOR ANY REASON
...just asking... maybe it does say that
You wouldn't want to dyno my car, cause I pamper it with $7/qt synthetic oil, Injector cleaner every 7K, and 94 octane gas all the way. Plus I had a 2500mi break-in-period, and always let my car warm up before driving.
BTW: How long will it take?... do I hear "free motor mounts"?...
G
If we rent a car...
Simply put: All you have to state is the VIN# of the vehicle dynoed. Who cares who the owner is?...
And by the time you present the argument to court, AVIS would have already sold that car to some poor soul.
And does their rental agreement really say: I HEREBY AGREE NOT TO PULL THE ENGINE APART & DYNO IT FOR ANY REASON
...just asking... maybe it does say that
You wouldn't want to dyno my car, cause I pamper it with $7/qt synthetic oil, Injector cleaner every 7K, and 94 octane gas all the way. Plus I had a 2500mi break-in-period, and always let my car warm up before driving.
BTW: How long will it take?... do I hear "free motor mounts"?...
G
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This is off topic, but why haven't the TL-S guys started a lawsuit too? TL-S's claim 260 HP, but most dyno at 200 - 205 HP at the wheels which is a 21 - 22% drivetrain loss! I beleive that we are in the same boat as you are. The new 240 HP accord dynoe at 195 HP. That's 5 - 10 HP less than the TL-S and the Accord has 20 less HP at the crank then the TL-S. The times 0-60 and 1/4 as well as MPH are the same too. I know they are diferent engines, but still, what gives?
I too feel robbed as a TL-S owner!!!
I too feel robbed as a TL-S owner!!!
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Originally posted by MB-Telecom
This is off topic, but why haven't the TL-S guys started a lawsuit too? TL-S's claim 260 HP, but most dyno at 200 - 205 HP at the wheels which is a 21 - 22% drivetrain loss! I beleive that we are in the same boat as you are. The new 240 HP accord dynoe at 195 HP. That's 5 - 10 HP less than the TL-S and the Accord has 20 less HP at the crank then the TL-S. The times 0-60 and 1/4 as well as MPH are the same too. I know they are diferent engines, but still, what gives?
I too feel robbed as a TL-S owner!!!
This is off topic, but why haven't the TL-S guys started a lawsuit too? TL-S's claim 260 HP, but most dyno at 200 - 205 HP at the wheels which is a 21 - 22% drivetrain loss! I beleive that we are in the same boat as you are. The new 240 HP accord dynoe at 195 HP. That's 5 - 10 HP less than the TL-S and the Accord has 20 less HP at the crank then the TL-S. The times 0-60 and 1/4 as well as MPH are the same too. I know they are diferent engines, but still, what gives?
I too feel robbed as a TL-S owner!!!
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yeah, the Altima is bigger, that's why Nissan had to lie about the Maxima's horsepower rating to justify it's higher price...for a smaller car with a sh!ttier rear suspension, and worse resale value...
get in an altima, and your surrounded by luptuous cheap plastic...but it's new style and large size tends to keep resale value up...compared with Maxima...
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Originally posted by vandy786
MB, I see what you are trying to say, but it makes zero sense. Your argument is lost when we consider that the Accord and the TL engines are different as is each car's gearing. In addition, you are comparing a Honda to an Acura, not a Nissan to a Nissan. Even if the cars had identical engines and transmission, consider that you are still paying for what is perceived as a "higher class" model. The Maxima guys are ****ed for good reason. I quote VQMAN from another thread:
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yeah, the Altima is bigger, that's why Nissan had to lie about the Maxima's horsepower rating to justify it's higher price...for a smaller car with a sh!ttier rear suspension, and worse resale value...
get in an altima, and your surrounded by luptuous cheap plastic...but it's new style and large size tends to keep resale value up...compared with Maxima...
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MB, I see what you are trying to say, but it makes zero sense. Your argument is lost when we consider that the Accord and the TL engines are different as is each car's gearing. In addition, you are comparing a Honda to an Acura, not a Nissan to a Nissan. Even if the cars had identical engines and transmission, consider that you are still paying for what is perceived as a "higher class" model. The Maxima guys are ****ed for good reason. I quote VQMAN from another thread:
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yeah, the Altima is bigger, that's why Nissan had to lie about the Maxima's horsepower rating to justify it's higher price...for a smaller car with a sh!ttier rear suspension, and worse resale value...
get in an altima, and your surrounded by luptuous cheap plastic...but it's new style and large size tends to keep resale value up...compared with Maxima...
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hey i havent been in this thread lately but from what im reading is you need a car that needs a motor pulled?im in richmond va but if someone has a shop in mind ill do it as long as it is paid for and put back and gaurenteed.....mine is a 03 but the 03 is a complete cary over from 02 except for a couple of colors added and dropped.....got a 03 se 6spd car
if you want to use mine email me at
tonylittel@aol.com
as i dont get into the thread much
if you want to use mine email me at
tonylittel@aol.com
as i dont get into the thread much
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Oxidizer,
Lets keep the focus on the Maxima as this is a Max forum. But while I'm at it, let me just say that no car puts out the full advertised horsepower to the wheels. A significant amount of the horsepower is lost along the way in the transmission in the form of heat, say 15-25 percent. Hondas, Acuras, Nissans, Infinitis, among some other manufacturers, are known to have more power loss than the average car, although as of late it seems that even their transmissions are becoming more and more efficient in newer models. As far as the TL-S is concerned, it usually dynoes at 200-205 range (please correct me if I am mistaken). This was a significant improvement over the pre-260 horsepower days so there is no issue of TL owners being cheated out of horsepower. All that matters is that I knew my car would put out a maximum of 205 hp to the wheels before I bought the car.
On a side note, I applaud those of you willing to dyno your car. What little I know has come from other people in forums and I didn't know until today that an engine has to be removed for a dyno. I hope it's all worth it in the end.
Lets keep the focus on the Maxima as this is a Max forum. But while I'm at it, let me just say that no car puts out the full advertised horsepower to the wheels. A significant amount of the horsepower is lost along the way in the transmission in the form of heat, say 15-25 percent. Hondas, Acuras, Nissans, Infinitis, among some other manufacturers, are known to have more power loss than the average car, although as of late it seems that even their transmissions are becoming more and more efficient in newer models. As far as the TL-S is concerned, it usually dynoes at 200-205 range (please correct me if I am mistaken). This was a significant improvement over the pre-260 horsepower days so there is no issue of TL owners being cheated out of horsepower. All that matters is that I knew my car would put out a maximum of 205 hp to the wheels before I bought the car.
On a side note, I applaud those of you willing to dyno your car. What little I know has come from other people in forums and I didn't know until today that an engine has to be removed for a dyno. I hope it's all worth it in the end.
Originally posted by tonylittell
hey i havent been in this thread lately but from what im reading is you need a car that needs a motor pulled?im in richmond va but if someone has a shop in mind ill do it as long as it is paid for and put back and gaurenteed.....mine is a 03 but the 03 is a complete cary over from 02 except for a couple of colors added and dropped.....got a 03 se 6spd car
if you want to use mine email me at
tonylittel@aol.com
as i dont get into the thread much
hey i havent been in this thread lately but from what im reading is you need a car that needs a motor pulled?im in richmond va but if someone has a shop in mind ill do it as long as it is paid for and put back and gaurenteed.....mine is a 03 but the 03 is a complete cary over from 02 except for a couple of colors added and dropped.....got a 03 se 6spd car
if you want to use mine email me at
tonylittel@aol.com
as i dont get into the thread much
Are you still working sales where you were? It might make a difference whether you're eligble. But myself and I'm sure the NC crew will vouch for you.
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Jesus Christ! Sorry for even making a post!
Most Tl-S's dyno around 192 - 200 HP.
I know this a max thread and a max forum. Since some of you are being unfriedly, ****-retentive *******s, I'll just leave...
Thanks for those that were willing to 'help' however.
Most Tl-S's dyno around 192 - 200 HP.
I know this a max thread and a max forum. Since some of you are being unfriedly, ****-retentive *******s, I'll just leave...
Thanks for those that were willing to 'help' however.
Re: Hey guys
Originally posted by Oxidizer2k
Hey, this is way off the topic, but i need to know something. I see a lot of maxima pics when some people post. My question is where do most of you get your Maxima accessories like cleared signals and ect. Thanks I appreciate it.
Hey, this is way off the topic, but i need to know something. I see a lot of maxima pics when some people post. My question is where do most of you get your Maxima accessories like cleared signals and ect. Thanks I appreciate it.
If there isn't enough OT crap in this thread. 
I'm going to have to stop getting e-mail updates on this topic.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and delete your post!!
Re: Re: Hey guys
Originally posted by MaxSE03
If there isn't enough OT crap in this thread.
I'm going to have to stop getting e-mail updates on this topic.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and delete your post!!
If there isn't enough OT crap in this thread. I'm going to have to stop getting e-mail updates on this topic.
Why don't you do everyone a favor and delete your post!!
yea i still sell them and would probobly lose my job if i was caught doing this....but i want my hp just like everyone else......might help the case more having nissan sales reps in the suit
also.....but i might have to end up selling honda when they find out...lol!yall let me know ill put mine up for testing.....got to do it soon though...ill be adding bolt ons soon.........
tony
also.....but i might have to end up selling honda when they find out...lol!yall let me know ill put mine up for testing.....got to do it soon though...ill be adding bolt ons soon.........
tony
Originally posted by Shaydz
Tony,
Are you still working sales where you were? It might make a difference whether you're eligble. But myself and I'm sure the NC crew will vouch for you.
Tony,
Are you still working sales where you were? It might make a difference whether you're eligble. But myself and I'm sure the NC crew will vouch for you.
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Originally posted by tonylittell
yea i still sell them and would probobly lose my job if i was caught doing this....but i want my hp just like everyone else......might help the case more having nissan sales reps in the suit
also.....but i might have to end up selling honda when they find out...lol!yall let me know ill put mine up for testing.....got to do it soon though...ill be adding bolt ons soon.........
tony
yea i still sell them and would probobly lose my job if i was caught doing this....but i want my hp just like everyone else......might help the case more having nissan sales reps in the suit
also.....but i might have to end up selling honda when they find out...lol!yall let me know ill put mine up for testing.....got to do it soon though...ill be adding bolt ons soon.........
tony
Originally posted by Lonz
I also offered in the "philly" thread to have the engine out of my car but it seems anyone employed at a Nissan dealership is one of the enemy and can't be trusted.
kinda funny there is a post in here every 30 minutes normally......yall are crying about needing a test car but dont have the ***** to step up....you got someone to step up to the plate , and may even lose his job for doing it if nissan finds out and you cant even give me the decency of a reply?.... see im doing this to help all max enthusists (myself included) but i wont be affected in the least really.....i can get out of my car at any time....when you get cars at 4.9% under invoice you dont have the equity problem alot of people face.....if i dont get the hp ill just trade it.....no big deal.......goodluck with the suit....ill benifit whether you guys talk to me or not and its less hassle for me too....just thought i would offer up my car.......good luck fellas and since you wont talk to anybody thats works for nissan (you know how us salesmen are one step from being a ceo)people really listen to us......but one of you guys needs to get some ***** and dyno the engine
tony
thanks shaydz for vouching for me but that doesnt meen anything to these guys...thy are trying to keep things hush hush and a secret......TO BAD THIS THREAD IS POSTED ALL OVER THE FREAKING WORLD!!!!!!!!! not a big secret whats going on......thought they would take any help they could get since none of them have *****
I also offered in the "philly" thread to have the engine out of my car but it seems anyone employed at a Nissan dealership is one of the enemy and can't be trusted.
kinda funny there is a post in here every 30 minutes normally......yall are crying about needing a test car but dont have the ***** to step up....you got someone to step up to the plate , and may even lose his job for doing it if nissan finds out and you cant even give me the decency of a reply?.... see im doing this to help all max enthusists (myself included) but i wont be affected in the least really.....i can get out of my car at any time....when you get cars at 4.9% under invoice you dont have the equity problem alot of people face.....if i dont get the hp ill just trade it.....no big deal.......goodluck with the suit....ill benifit whether you guys talk to me or not and its less hassle for me too....just thought i would offer up my car.......good luck fellas and since you wont talk to anybody thats works for nissan (you know how us salesmen are one step from being a ceo)people really listen to us......but one of you guys needs to get some ***** and dyno the engine
tony
thanks shaydz for vouching for me but that doesnt meen anything to these guys...thy are trying to keep things hush hush and a secret......TO BAD THIS THREAD IS POSTED ALL OVER THE FREAKING WORLD!!!!!!!!! not a big secret whats going on......thought they would take any help they could get since none of them have *****
Steve... will this work?
Steve,
Can you find out from the lawyer if the car owned by an maxima enthusiast (albeit he is a Nissan sales Rep but a bonafide enthusiast) would work? Tony is a great guy (he drove 4 1/2 hrs to the dragstrip in NC just to run with us NC guys at the Rock) and truly cares about his Max. He acknowledges the faults of Nissan and does what he can to change the common view of the Nissan sales guy. I would buy from him in a second because I and many others trust him.
It's a good offer and he does deserve some sort of reply even if the lawyer say's it's not a good idea. That would be understandable but we do need a car up there and he is willing. If something went wrong (God forbid) he would be in a better position to get his car straightened out and anyone else.
Seriously, I have met face-to face a lot of people on the org and Tony is one of the best most above-board guys on here.
A few others that have met him; Matt Calder, Kingmax, Pezking4, Ladeesman, blubyu2k2, (I think SR2ODEN - he was there but don't know if they talked), etc.
Just my input....
Can you find out from the lawyer if the car owned by an maxima enthusiast (albeit he is a Nissan sales Rep but a bonafide enthusiast) would work? Tony is a great guy (he drove 4 1/2 hrs to the dragstrip in NC just to run with us NC guys at the Rock) and truly cares about his Max. He acknowledges the faults of Nissan and does what he can to change the common view of the Nissan sales guy. I would buy from him in a second because I and many others trust him.
It's a good offer and he does deserve some sort of reply even if the lawyer say's it's not a good idea. That would be understandable but we do need a car up there and he is willing. If something went wrong (God forbid) he would be in a better position to get his car straightened out and anyone else.
Seriously, I have met face-to face a lot of people on the org and Tony is one of the best most above-board guys on here.
A few others that have met him; Matt Calder, Kingmax, Pezking4, Ladeesman, blubyu2k2, (I think SR2ODEN - he was there but don't know if they talked), etc.
Just my input....
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Re: Steve... will this work?
Originally posted by Shaydz
Steve,
Can you find out from the lawyer if the car owned by an maxima enthusiast (albeit he is a Nissan sales Rep but a bonafide enthusiast) would work? Tony is a great guy (he drove 4 1/2 hrs to the dragstrip in NC just to run with us NC guys at the Rock) and truly cares about his Max. He acknowledges the faults of Nissan and does what he can to change the common view of the Nissan sales guy. I would buy from him in a second because I and many others trust him.
It's a good offer and he does deserve some sort of reply even if the lawyer say's it's not a good idea. That would be understandable but we do need a car up there and he is willing. If something went wrong (God forbid) he would be in a better position to get his car straightened out and anyone else.
Seriously, I have met face-to face a lot of people on the org and Tony is one of the best most above-board guys on here.
A few others that have met him; Matt Calder, Kingmax, Pezking4, Ladeesman, blubyu2k2, (I think SR2ODEN - he was there but don't know if they talked), etc.
Just my input....
Steve,
Can you find out from the lawyer if the car owned by an maxima enthusiast (albeit he is a Nissan sales Rep but a bonafide enthusiast) would work? Tony is a great guy (he drove 4 1/2 hrs to the dragstrip in NC just to run with us NC guys at the Rock) and truly cares about his Max. He acknowledges the faults of Nissan and does what he can to change the common view of the Nissan sales guy. I would buy from him in a second because I and many others trust him.
It's a good offer and he does deserve some sort of reply even if the lawyer say's it's not a good idea. That would be understandable but we do need a car up there and he is willing. If something went wrong (God forbid) he would be in a better position to get his car straightened out and anyone else.
Seriously, I have met face-to face a lot of people on the org and Tony is one of the best most above-board guys on here.
A few others that have met him; Matt Calder, Kingmax, Pezking4, Ladeesman, blubyu2k2, (I think SR2ODEN - he was there but don't know if they talked), etc.
Just my input....
OFF TOPIC:
Lonz isn't by himself...I can't get Steve to reply to me either.
Once I emailed him about his business,(FRANKENCAR) asked for pros/cons of FrankenCar vs. CAI, and he never responded...then I've emailed him several times about this...no reply...
He's better than us. what's his login name? dumbmaxima2k2? EDIT: sorry steve...just a little ate up about no replies...but Steve did finally get back with me...EDITED Jan 15th, 2003 by vqman
If he wants to sell some intakes, he should give the common courtesy of an email reply once in a while.
ON TOPIC:
I am willing to let them pull my engine.
BUT!
if they pull my engine, I am taking a risk for Maxima owners everywhere. The benefits of a 240bhp dyno run are the same for me as the guy who doesn't take the risk. (Buy back option, extneded warranty etc...) I think that I should be somehow compensated for taking such a risk with my car. I assume that the lawyer is going to get paid for his time by Nissan if we win, and to help him prove his case, I'll let him use my engine, but I want an unconditional warranty on my car for 3 years, I don't want to jump through hoops to prove my car is bad because of the engine pull, and I want $500.
Can you imagine when they go to court, present the "evidence" VIN # JADN322434532SSAVN00001....Matt McSchmoe's car...we pulled the engine, he VOLUNTEERED his car...a sacraficial lamb of sorts...it dyno'd 239 hp @ 5700rpm...and 252ftlb @ 4200 rpm...
I'll be marked by Nissan forever.
Do you think that when I go the get my car serviced next time, that they'll do a good job on it? what about when I have major problems with the car NOT RELATED to them pulling the engine...would Nissan cover it? Hell no! they'll say...our records show, you pulled your engine out of your car...took the tranny off, took every component off the engine...that voided your warranty...sorry bud...
Or they would come up with every excuse in the world why it wasn't a warrantied item...My life at the Nissan Dealer would suck forever and ever after doing that to them. is that fair? no, can they do that? yes!
I don't have the funds to fight that battle on my own, that will be a personal battle AFTER the HP issue is resolved. And I will be left hanging on my own.
Give me an unconditional warranty, and $500, and you can dyno my engine...but to think i'm going to sacrafice my engine, and my relationship w/Nissan for free is ubsurd...to think that anyone would do it...well, if someone does, they're WAY more brave than I.
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-vq
dood im not on the otherside....im on your side,i want the same thing you do...my hp nissan promised.....and my car is perfect..i dog it to hell and dont let it warm up before driving and shoot i had it drag racing before it even hit 1000 miles...lol.....ive bee really hard on it...i only want to help....if it helps any the car isnt even in my name its in my wifes......and she works for overnite transportation......i just want to do my part to help.....im not the bad guy...really im thesavior since nobody else is willing to step up......
my email addy is
tonylittel@aol.com
804 400 5879 call if you want y help guys
and thanks again shaydz
my email addy is
tonylittel@aol.com
804 400 5879 call if you want y help guys
and thanks again shaydz
Originally posted by johnvt1111
You don't to have steve ask the lawyer, ill tell u it's ok, even if he is kinda on the other side
You don't to have steve ask the lawyer, ill tell u it's ok, even if he is kinda on the other side
Hey Pal i know you're not on the other side, someone else asked since your a sales rep, or something like that, if you'd still be able to help us, and i joking said yes you can even if you're on the other side, if your in philly, hit me up on instant messanger and i will give you the lawyers office number and or home number
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Re: Steve... will this work?
Originally posted by Shaydz
Steve,
Can you find out from the lawyer if the car owned by an maxima enthusiast (albeit he is a Nissan sales Rep but a bonafide enthusiast) would work?
Just my input....
Steve,
Can you find out from the lawyer if the car owned by an maxima enthusiast (albeit he is a Nissan sales Rep but a bonafide enthusiast) would work?
Just my input....
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Introduction
Written by: Dennis Lee
the Nissan Maxima. New and improved in 2002 with a beefed up 3.5 liter power plant producing 255 horsepower, and available with a 6 speed manual transmission, the new Maxima promises to be the most potent incarnation yet.
We began our project with a few baseline tests to gauge our Maxima's performance in stock trim. Starting off with a dyno run at Stillen's Open House, we were pleased to yield a result of 205.5 horsepower, and 219 lb.-ft. of torque at the wheels
Next up was an acceleration test, we took Project Maxima to the nearest ¼ mile track in Carlsbad, California. Several passes on a less than ideal track surface yielded a best time of 14.499 at 96 miles per hour. The best our driver was able to muster was a 2.303 60' time, low 14's are not far out of reach.
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Nissan Performance Magazine
im not in philly im in richmond va but philly is just a small drive compared to what i normally drive.......ill im you some time on sunday
Originally posted by johnvt1111
Hey Pal i know you're not on the other side, someone else asked since your a sales rep, or something like that, if you'd still be able to help us, and i joking said yes you can even if you're on the other side, if your in philly, hit me up on instant messanger and i will give you the lawyers office number and or home number
Hey Pal i know you're not on the other side, someone else asked since your a sales rep, or something like that, if you'd still be able to help us, and i joking said yes you can even if you're on the other side, if your in philly, hit me up on instant messanger and i will give you the lawyers office number and or home number
Re: So is this actually being followed through?
Originally posted by 2M0A0X2
I want to know if anyone is actually taking hard action with a lawyer and having meetings and stuff with nissan, or is this a rant....
I want to know if anyone is actually taking hard action with a lawyer and having meetings and stuff with nissan, or is this a rant....
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Re: Re: So is this actually being followed through?
Originally posted by johnvt1111
MAN NOT ANOTHER PERSON WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE LAW...........you don't just have a meeting with nissan guy, you go through steps, and file a case, get evidence, man have u even read the last 30 or so pages of crap, if so you would know steps are being taken, meetings have been made, and no we don't want to talk to nissan right now if you knew the case or the law, when this is done you'll be notified by mail, until then just sit tight
MAN NOT ANOTHER PERSON WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE LAW...........you don't just have a meeting with nissan guy, you go through steps, and file a case, get evidence, man have u even read the last 30 or so pages of crap, if so you would know steps are being taken, meetings have been made, and no we don't want to talk to nissan right now if you knew the case or the law, when this is done you'll be notified by mail, until then just sit tight
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Re: Re: So is this actually being followed through?
Originally posted by johnvt1111
MAN NOT ANOTHER PERSON WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE LAW...........you don't just have a meeting with nissan guy, you go through steps, and file a case, get evidence, man have u even read the last 30 or so pages of crap, if so you would know steps are being taken, meetings have been made, and no we don't want to talk to nissan right now if you knew the case or the law, when this is done you'll be notified by mail, until then just sit tight
MAN NOT ANOTHER PERSON WHO DOESN'T KNOW THE LAW...........you don't just have a meeting with nissan guy, you go through steps, and file a case, get evidence, man have u even read the last 30 or so pages of crap, if so you would know steps are being taken, meetings have been made, and no we don't want to talk to nissan right now if you knew the case or the law, when this is done you'll be notified by mail, until then just sit tight