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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Oh wth guys.. you gotta be kidding me.. your all killing me here.

I bought the OBX headers before this version with the dinky y-pipe outlet, and now theres this newer version with (what looks to be) a bigger y-pipe outlet.

Lucky i didnt install my headers yet muahaha. But its all dependant on fitment.

Hope that o2 bung location on the front header dont hit the radiator.
Old Jan 18, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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I was considering these. I'd be cheesed if they fit amazing and give great gains since I just ordered Cattman headers + fastcat for $1783 shipped here to Canada...
Why so much?
Old Jan 18, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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The shipped product looks sharp!

If we get a decent fittment and some fair numbers, we might have a product here.
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 02:31 AM
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Why so much?
That's in CAD. Our dollar is weaker than yours, so gotta factor in the exchange rate. Now add international shipping with UPS + brokerage fees + duty. I didn't think it'd be so much but oh well.
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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if the headers are all the same sizes(2.5") all the way through and made of stainless steel.....wat makes the cattman gives more hp gains?
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:01 PM
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That's impossible! Most primaries are smaller than they expand into a slightly larger merger or secondaries then into the headpipe into the cat. Cattmans primaries are I believe 1 5/8" into a 2 1/4" collector then into 2 1/4" secondaries merged into a 2 1/2" headpipe then into the cat.
It's not about building something that looks cool I'm sure from the conversations I had with Brian lots of different style/sized mergers were used as well as different size tubing diameter and lenght to get the flow numbers He was looking for when compared to the Oem system, which was dam good even having those precats, it still flowed pretty good. I would love to have those two brands flowed on a flow bench to just compare the numbers....
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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ok so then cattman will definately give you more gains?
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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ok so then cattman will definately give you more gains?
Against what, these?

We won't know until they're installed, haven't you been following this thread?
Old Jan 19, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
That's impossible! Most primaries are smaller than they expand into a slightly larger merger or secondaries then into the headpipe into the cat. Cattmans primaries are I believe 1 5/8" into a 2 1/4" collector then into 2 1/4" secondaries merged into a 2 1/2" headpipe then into the cat.
It's not about building something that looks cool I'm sure from the conversations I had with Brian lots of different style/sized mergers were used as well as different size tubing diameter and lenght to get the flow numbers He was looking for when compared to the Oem system, which was dam good even having those precats, it still flowed pretty good. I would love to have those two brands flowed on a flow bench to just compare the numbers....


2.5" exhaust ports

Maybe on a Cat...
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:45 AM
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I'm with AE01. The rear bank will be time consuming to install, given that the lower section including the flex pipe is integral.
Honestly it might be easier if you're twisting the engine forward with the IM off. You could use the hangar on the Ypipe to hold the rear header in place while you get the bolts lined up from the top!
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Originally Posted by CMax03
That's impossible! Most primaries are smaller than they expand into a slightly larger merger or secondaries then into the headpipe into the cat. Cattmans primaries are I believe 1 5/8" into a 2 1/4" collector then into 2 1/4" secondaries merged into a 2 1/2" headpipe then into the cat.
It's not about building something that looks cool I'm sure from the conversations I had with Brian lots of different style/sized mergers were used as well as different size tubing diameter and lenght to get the flow numbers He was looking for when compared to the Oem system, which was dam good even having those precats, it still flowed pretty good. I would love to have those two brands flowed on a flow bench to just compare the numbers....
It's really too bad that the cattman gen3s don't merge the 2 1/4" runners into a 3" to the cat instead of a 2.5" for the 3.5s that need more flow
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by CMax03
I would love to have those two brands flowed on a flow bench to just compare the numbers....
Flowbench testing of exhaust's & exhaust ports is practically useless, the gases behave so differently when they get really hot.

Dyno dyno dyno!

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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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lol....im takin notes.....i dont know bout the rest of yal....lol
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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lol....im takin notes.....i dont know bout the rest of yal....lol
I hope you found that axle you needed. Headers on a car that doesnt move will suck bad.
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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I hope you found that axle you needed. Headers on a car that doesnt move will suck bad.
Jus got it back 2day....i cant stop smiling....lmao
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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come on lets see some numbers!!
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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come on lets see some numbers!!
Headers have not arrived yet that was off topic about another car issuse
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 03:24 AM
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Jus got it back 2day....i cant stop smiling....lmao
How did the install go? Will you be getting numbers soon? C'mon now...
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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How did the install go? Will you be getting numbers soon? C'mon now...
lmao....the headers aint come yet...me and maxboy325 was talkin bout another issue....i broke my tranny and i jus got my car back..
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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:'( this thread isnt any fun without pics or ##'s
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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:'( this thread isnt any fun without pics or ##'s
There are already pics linked above, and we'll get numbers when someone gets a set installed. Patience...
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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okay sense i have a crack in the flex pipe on my stock y i'm gonna get these but before i do can someone tell me if a 01 fed spec has a egr. i just want to plan on how much the install will be. i even if i do have an egr i will prob get these. b/c there are 1/3 of cattman and 1/2 of just the stock y=pipe. they have a good look and design and cant be as bad as stock.
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okay sense i have a crack in the flex pipe on my stock y i'm gonna get these but before i do can someone tell me if a 01 fed spec has a egr. i just want to plan on how much the install will be. i even if i do have an egr i will prob get these. b/c there are 1/3 of cattman and 1/2 of just the stock y=pipe. they have a good look and design and cant be as bad as stock.
No, yours should be blocked off from the factory. Go outside and check for yourself to be sure, though. All you really have to do is look at the rear manifold.
Old Jan 21, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Those collectors are, umm....interesting.
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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No, yours should be blocked off from the factory. Go outside and check for yourself to be sure, though. All you really have to do is look at the rear manifold.
sorry this might be noob, where do i look from b/c the intake manifold is in the way? is there a number that is in the vin that would tell me? or is there another place to look? i don't have access to a lift it that help for the easiest way to tell. thank you
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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so i was just checking these out a i dont know if these was mentioned but they come with a lifetime warranty
Old Jan 22, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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sorry this might be noob, where do i look from b/c the intake manifold is in the way? is there a number that is in the vin that would tell me? or is there another place to look? i don't have access to a lift it that help for the easiest way to tell. thank you
You could look from the driver's side at the exhaust manifold. Anyway, what's your production date? That's all I'd need to guarantee whether or not you have EGR (or you VIN would work too).
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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the production date is 10/00. thanks for the help. going to order these today when i get home from work.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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i had the hotshot and the cattman gen 3. Cattman were soo much better in terms of fitment and the butt dyno. I wonder if these come close to the hotshot at least.
Nothing will match the design of the cattman.
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the production date is 10/00. thanks for the help. going to order these today when i get home from work.
You have no EGR.
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I have a 00' and i'm almost positive i have the EGR. This system wont just bolt on will it?

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I have a 00' and i'm almost positive i have the EGR. This system wont just bolt on will it?

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Yes, you have EGR. It will bolt on, but you'll lose EGR unless you have a bung welded on the rear manifold.
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thanks for the info. not to hijack the thread about egrs but is it bad uf you car comes with one but you dont use it?
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thanks for the info. not to hijack the thread about egrs but is it bad uf you car comes with one but you dont use it?
you'll set off the service engine soon light
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Yes, you have EGR. It will bolt on, but you'll lose EGR unless you have a bung welded on the rear manifold.
So is there a guide on how to remove it or a fix for this? Except for the SES light will removing it cause any other problems except for emissions. I live in Florida so i could care less about emissions.
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So is there a guide on how to remove it or a fix for this? Except for the SES light will removing it cause any other problems except for emissions. I live in Florida so i could care less about emissions.
What do you mean a 'fix'?

Removing it as you are will just take two parts, the plug (14052-21R00, $8.57 @ Courtesy), and the block off plate (14017-4Y900, $13.53 @ Courtesy).

For installing these headers, you'll just need the block off plate.

No other issues, and saves a bit of space in the engine bay.

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When i say fix i mean removal. What about the SES light? I did a search but i cant seem to find any info on exactly how to trick the computer to thinking the EGR is working.
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When i say fix i mean removal. What about the SES light? I did a search but i cant seem to find any info on exactly how to trick the computer to thinking the EGR is working.
AFAIK as long as you can simulate the EGR temp sensor feedback and leave the EGR VCV plugged in, you shouldn't have an issue. Now how to simulate the feedback, not sure. You could see what it's resistance or what voltage it's putting out both when the EGR is open and closed, then recreate that from there.
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Well damn seems like i should start a new thread on that issue.

When are we gonna get some # on this setup!!?



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