New v2OBX headers?
i hope 2 get them b4 the end of this week...its a dyno meet this saturday that i plan 2 attend....so hopefully i will have them deliverd and installed by then....im gettin impatient my damn self
$1783? The retail price of our header/y-pipe is $879.99 ($814 w/ backorder discount) and the FastCat is $249.99 ($237.49 w/ max.org discount), a total of about $1050. Shipping to Canada's is expensive, but it won't cost $700+.
Brian
Actually, that's not too bad, its the way it should be, particularly since there is no decent 3" catback exhaust available for this car. We stand ready to make one, but there seems to be little actual demand.
Others have noticed the lack of an EGR port on the OBX, and we're often asked why the cheap Chinese catalogue headers (like the OBX) don't have EGR ports. The answer is simple; if they had the capability to precisely locate the EGR port so that it lined up perfectly with the male EGR fitting the would, but they don't have that capability. Needless to say, the EGR ports on Cattman headers are perfectly located.
Obviously we're biased here, but other concerns I would point out would be thin tubing (probably started out with something around 18ga and by the time its polished, its closer to 20ga, when 16ga should be the minimum) which results in cracking, weak welds like those seen in the past (also a source of cracking), the presence of secondary O2 sensor ports (hope they provide plugs, these are totally useless), and the somewhat primitive 3-1 and 2-1 collectors. As others have noted, making the y-pipe and back manifolds as one piece complicates the installtion - other than a cost-cutting measure, I can't figure out why they did it that way.
Brian
I know I'll be happy with the product though.
No offense to Brian/Cattman, but, the days of selling headers and y-pipes for a grand+ is coming to an end for most markets. And that's not a bash, because I'm in the SAME boat. I fab up high end parts as well, but, let's face it.. the Chinese are winning the game.
I used to get by, back when QC wasn't up to par, and the Chinese stuff wasn't all that great, but, nowadays, they pretty much have it under control. I've personally purchased Chinese headers and such, to compare, and what I've seen as of late, is nothing but good stuff. 1/2" flanges in some cases.. 16 gauge material, and the welds are top notch. Tons of the Spec V guys run the OBX header on the QR, and honestly, it gives better gains than the old Hotshot or AEBS header(s).
For a fraction of the cost, and increase in quality as of late, it's tough to argue the old "Chinese is crap" point anymore. Sad, but true..
Travis
I used to get by, back when QC wasn't up to par, and the Chinese stuff wasn't all that great, but, nowadays, they pretty much have it under control. I've personally purchased Chinese headers and such, to compare, and what I've seen as of late, is nothing but good stuff. 1/2" flanges in some cases.. 16 gauge material, and the welds are top notch. Tons of the Spec V guys run the OBX header on the QR, and honestly, it gives better gains than the old Hotshot or AEBS header(s).
For a fraction of the cost, and increase in quality as of late, it's tough to argue the old "Chinese is crap" point anymore. Sad, but true..
Travis
What's going to happen is that small companies like Cattman will be driven out of business, and then no one will create parts for our cars any longer. Once the major manufactures stop producing the parts, these knock off companies will have nothing to copy, and available parts will become non-existant. Parts for honduh's will always be around, but you really think there is a big market for Maxima parts? 
Good luck with the knockoff's, but I'll give my money to those who actually support us. You gotta pay to play
Good luck with the knockoff's, but I'll give my money to those who actually support us. You gotta pay to play
Anyhow here's some Cattman Headers and they weren't $1000 when I bought them, but maybe now since they're ceramic coated and have that wideband bung tig welded on....
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What's going to happen is that small companies like Cattman will be driven out of business, and then no one will create parts for our cars any longer. Once the major manufactures stop producing the parts, these knock off companies will have nothing to copy, and available parts will become non-existant. Parts for honduh's will always be around, but you really think there is a big market for Maxima parts?
Good luck with the knockoff's, but I'll give my money to those who actually support us. You gotta pay to play
Good luck with the knockoff's, but I'll give my money to those who actually support us. You gotta pay to play
be original....y would everbody copy off someone else desgn????everybody dont have 1000 or want 2 spend 1000 bucks 4 headers....if u wanna donate 1000 bucks 2 me fine...until then imma keep doing what i do
You go ahead and do what you do.
Oh, and your right, why do your own R&D, sheesh, who needs that anyway?
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What's going to happen is that small companies like Cattman will be driven out of business, and then no one will create parts for our cars any longer. Once the major manufactures stop producing the parts, these knock off companies will have nothing to copy, and available parts will become non-existant.
Yeah, zero R&D or initial investment, let everyone else do the hard work and then reap the rewards. Great purchase. I'm sure they took the time and money to dyno test these as well, and do a great deal to support our community.
Yea they are NOT copies of the Cattmans. It looks like they just improved their last horrible design by some. No offense to Cattman but competition is usually good. Also I would like to add I would love to get some cattman headers
if the fitment sucks like the other OBX headers in the past then Cattman and the likes have nothing to worry about. But this is no way a copy of the hotshot or cattmans.
I agree with the point of views, but like stated competition is also a good thing. Some people don't have the $800 to spend and others don't want to spend $800 on something that doesn't show a whole lot of gains over an aftermarket ypipe to begin with. I'm interested in the fitment and possibly pick up a set for the sound the equal length provides. I'm not willing to spend $800 just to get a better sound from the exhaust. But that doesn't mean I don't support the leaders that actually develop parts for our cars. I still support Cattman and the rest and will continue to purchase things from them. I steer locals that just gotten their Maximas to Cattman and such.
I agree with the point of views, but like stated competition is also a good thing. Some people don't have the $800 to spend and others don't want to spend $800 on something that doesn't show a whole lot of gains over an aftermarket ypipe to begin with. I'm interested in the fitment and possibly pick up a set for the sound the equal length provides. I'm not willing to spend $800 just to get a better sound from the exhaust. But that doesn't mean I don't support the leaders that actually develop parts for our cars. I still support Cattman and the rest and will continue to purchase things from them. I steer locals that just gotten their Maximas to Cattman and such.
If Cattman headers are superior, then the company nor the buyers of the products shouldn't have anything to worry about. Our cars would not be very unique if there was only one modification per part. I'm not biased in any way, but it seems that most of the posts in this thread only want to defend Cattman products and bash the possibility of OBX producing another part for our cars.
I'm sorry, but this is a thread mainly regarding the new OBX headers. Not trying to be a jerk, but I don't see how your direct Cattman review is necessary.
If Cattman headers are superior, then the company nor the buyers of the products shouldn't have anything to worry about. Our cars would not be very unique if there was only one modification per part. I'm not biased in any way, but it seems that most of the posts in this thread only want to defend Cattman products and bash the possibility of OBX producing another part for our cars.
If Cattman headers are superior, then the company nor the buyers of the products shouldn't have anything to worry about. Our cars would not be very unique if there was only one modification per part. I'm not biased in any way, but it seems that most of the posts in this thread only want to defend Cattman products and bash the possibility of OBX producing another part for our cars.
Go back to the first couple pages. I'm giving the OBX v2 headers a chance to prove themselves, before I bash them lol. Like I said, they look promising, but only numbers + installation difficulty will truly give us an idea.
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Guys you gotta remember that when manufacturers actually start making headers for a car that the first one is always the most expensive... not long and other companies are producing a very similar design, and they'll either start regulating their prices, or see lower sales.
I agree. Thats good that there is competition and other manufactures making parts for our car. I support cattman and what they do, I'll also support other companies for our cars because there isnt a great aftermarket market for us.
Like the others have said lets see what the numbers accrue too. OBX has put out a couple of models and by reading this thread it looks like their trying to get it right with this one. It's good to seem them still put effort into this and to produce another product. Hopefully fitment isnt a worry and it produces good gains...
I'm not trying to be rude but how many different models has cattman come out with for us 5.5er's?
Like the others have said lets see what the numbers accrue too. OBX has put out a couple of models and by reading this thread it looks like their trying to get it right with this one. It's good to seem them still put effort into this and to produce another product. Hopefully fitment isnt a worry and it produces good gains...
I'm not trying to be rude but how many different models has cattman come out with for us 5.5er's?
