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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Hey guys, my car seemed to be fine on Thursday evening, I drove it to the doctors, then went grocery shopping and heard no odd sounds whatsoever. Today I started doing a full detail, wash, claybar, wash, z5,and z6. I took the car out for a spin tonight and heard a really loud crunching noise when I was leaving the driveway. Did what I had to do and the crunching noise only seems to happen while the steering wheel is moving. I actually stopped at one point and just sat there turning the wheel left and right and the crunching noise was happening. It's only on the passenger side though, so am I looking at tie rods, ball joint or strut mount?
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 09:35 AM
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never mind I figured it out. couldn't get the jack under my car this morning so had to get the oem piece of junk out to raise the car. Then I used the floor jack and found this....

passenger side

drivers side
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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So... are you ready for those coilovers you've been planning on?
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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don't have the cash yet, 1400 for a set up here
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:41 AM
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Bummer. Odd that your first notice was sound.

Upright and brightened up for perspective.

Old Apr 3, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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I knew something wasn't quite right for the last week or so, but I attributed that to my snows being overinflated with the very warm temperatures.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Can you explain that first picture? It looks like the spring is unseated from the.. what do you call that, a bump stop? But it also looks like the black spring has another broken rusty spring half way around it. What is that?

Snows. Dude, it's time to ditch the snows. It's 90F (32C) in the Northeast today.

Coilovers. Think of it as 3 months of car payments that you're not making.

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Old Apr 3, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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I just put my summers on. I was lucky that a guy around the corner had a spare front suspension set up for me so I now am the proud lendee of 01 GLE springs and shocks on the front end. Holy 4x4 batman!!

The picture on the left is the spring, broken in 2 places so the spring is actually in three pieces. The upper isolator is there along with all the oem strut mount pieces.

here's the pics out of the car




and the gle stock front suspension on an SE LMFAO at this

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The picture on the left is the spring, broken in 2 places so the spring is actually in three pieces. The upper isolator is there along with all the oem strut mount pieces.
3 pieces. Oh. Ouch.

That height is fkd up. I'm on stock springs, and that's not normal gap.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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that's what is kinda confusing. I thought the gle setup was softer so I should have less wheel gap, not more than stock.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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one of my homie is selling eibach spring for 150 but ima in cali tho...
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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that's what is kinda confusing. I thought the gle setup was softer so I should have less wheel gap, not more than stock.
Maybe the car is leaning toward the driver side where you have it parked in that picture? Because I just measured it from the tire to the top of the rim... figure between 3" and 3.5" (around 8 cm).

That's stock SE springs on Tokico HP Blues. (Actually, don't all the models use the same springs, and it's only the SE that got different struts?) And that's with the same 17" rims as yours, Knight, (sans the titanium look), and OEM sized tires.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 04:38 PM
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i won't need to buy springs, eibach has a lifetime warranty, so it's just a matter of waiting for a replacement set.

You might be right about the car leaning, I'll check it out tomorrow on a flat surface as opposed to my driveway
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Damn dude!! That rust is brutal. You should ditch the Eibachs and get some coilovers. You won't regret it. Completely two different rides.

EDIT: Those springs are ****ed up. And only started making noise now????
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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are coilovers rustproof? just kidding. I'd love to get some tein ss but they are not in the budget right now so I will take the free eibach replacements for now.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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3 pieces. Oh. Ouch.

That height is fkd up. I'm on stock springs, and that's not normal gap.
Gonna have to agree here. The height looks 'extra'.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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are coilovers rustproof? just kidding. I'd love to get some tein ss but they are not in the budget right now so I will take the free eibach replacements for now.

Did you notice any degradation of the ride quality beforehand? I only ask b/c, not for anything, every now-and-then I have a similar sound when backing out/pulling in small elevations like driveways.

Amazingly, it ONLY happens when backing out/pulling into driveways (I got rid of my every-bump-clunk noise last summer). Screw this, I'm checking my springs right now lol
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the only odd thing I noticed over the last week or so was when I went over bumps the shocks didn't seem to be soft enough. They felt too stiff so when I hit a bump the car didn't seem to give. After seeing the damage I would think the car would have been saggy as hell. Even my wife asked me why the suspension felt so stiff but I assumed it was because the winters were still on the car and I had them at 35 psi for -10 C weather.
Old Apr 3, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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On the Shiftice.com site it shows the stock height on the front as 28 1/16" and the rear 27 1/4" ... but wow your front looks like its over 30", I would be interested once your a level surface if you have any leaning to the driver side as mentioned in the above posts. I am just glad you weren't out driving at HWY speeds when the springs decided to crumble the way they have ... damn scaring thought
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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That sucks that it snapped in 3 different pieces. Had to get mine replaced on my 03 Vue twice(under warranty, thankfully), and once was 3 days after we bought the car. When you said crunching sound, I knew right away what it was.
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It seems like a bunch of Eibach springs are breaking all of the sudden. What's up with that?

I have Eibachs...
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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the only odd thing I noticed over the last week or so was when I went over bumps the shocks didn't seem to be soft enough. They felt too stiff so when I hit a bump the car didn't seem to give. After seeing the damage I would think the car would have been saggy as hell. Even my wife asked me why the suspension felt so stiff but I assumed it was because the winters were still on the car and I had them at 35 psi for -10 C weather.
I'm growing question marks over my head b/c my ride has been noticeably less 'forgiving' over bumps (I'm stock too). I checked my springs they seem to be fine though
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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looks like the gap on the front is normal, just measured it at 27.5 to the fender



picture with new lift and full zaino treatment

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looks like the gap on the front is normal, just measured it at 27.5 to the fender
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I just measured it from the tire to the top of the rim... figure between 3" and 3.5" (around 8 cm).
So what's the measurement of the top gap?

Or, maybe the front is lifted abnormally because the rear is lowered.
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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that could be it, or it is high because the shocks and springs were taken off the car as a unit and stored that way for quite some time. Nissann says the front fender should be 28 and change from the ground
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Originally Posted by knight_yyz
are coilovers rustproof? just kidding. I'd love to get some tein ss but they are not in the budget right now so I will take the free eibach replacements for now.
Free is always good. I am surprised the company warranties its product due to rust damage.
Old Apr 4, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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I doubt they broke because of some light surface rust. They broke because I drive my car hard and the city I live in doesn't fix roads.

1. Eibach’s Limited Million-Mile Warranty
All Eibach Springs, Inc. (“Eibach”) Suspension Springs, ANTIROLL-
KITS (excluding bushings) and PRO-SPACERS (collectively,
“Products”) are covered by a Million-Mile warranty.

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