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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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No, noises are not normal.

On a separate note, I replied to your PM but never heard back.
Ok i would like it to be noise free. Yea tryna figure something out i think both cars have several small problems, time is so hard to come by. I promise ill visit you one of these days, really waiting for the weather to get better aswell.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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About to pull the trigger on getting some GR-2's for my 2000 i30. Now the part number reads 334265 (x2). I've been doing a little research and usually the front is 334265 and 334266, I believe. From what I've seen only the back ones are the same part number. Could this be a problem?
Old Mar 1, 2014 | 05:23 AM
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You are correct and kudos on the research.

You need one each of 334265 and 334266 for the fronts on your 2000 i30.

Rears you need 2x of 341341 OR 341271, whichever of the two are cheaper. One is 00-01 model, other is 02-03, but they're identical. No idea why KYB did it this way.
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Can the Tokico blues be inserted with the 4th GEN SE OEM springs? Will raising her back up 1.5" with this setup make the ride smoother?

The progressive springs only dropped the MAX 1.5" but they have a lower Spring Rate that the SE OEM springs.

OEM SE springs (linear) estimated:
Front: 250 lbs/in
Rear: 250 lbs/in

Tokico (progressive)
Front: 111-225 lbs/in
Rear: 148-295 lbs/in

My 98 SE now has the Tokico blue struts with the Tokico red progressive springs that came in the HPK245 package. That setup along with the moog strut mounts only have 12,000 miles.

To keep the new fenders, repaired quarters and rocker panels from rusting again I might raise her back up. Changing oil will also be easier.
Old Mar 1, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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Blues are fine with OEM springs. That's what they're meant for.
Old Mar 1, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
You are correct and kudos on the research.

You need one each of 334265 and 334266 for the fronts on your 2000 i30.

Rears you need 2x of 341341 OR 341271, whichever of the two are cheaper. One is 00-01 model, other is 02-03, but they're identical. No idea why KYB did it this way.

That's what I thought. Just figured I'd double check my research. Much appreciated dj!
Old Mar 1, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Another question. What size sway bar bushings are needed for the 2000 i30? I see that the max SE uses 23mm and all other models are 22mm. I'm assuming that the control arm and rear trailing arm bushings are the same from max to i30.
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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Another question. What size sway bar bushings are needed for the 2000 i30? I see that the max SE uses 23mm and all other models are 22mm. I'm assuming that the control arm and rear trailing arm bushings are the same from max to i30.
Try the energy suspension bushings, they come in red or black color
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan.Powell
Another question. What size sway bar bushings are needed for the 2000 i30? I see that the max SE uses 23mm and all other models are 22mm. I'm assuming that the control arm and rear trailing arm bushings are the same from max to i30.
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Try the energy suspension bushings, they come in red or black color
Agree on Energy Suspension. You need Energy Suspension model number 7.5124 for your i30. 22mm.

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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Agree on Energy Suspension. You need Energy Suspension model number 7.5125 for your i30. 22mm.

Thanks dj that's what I was looking for. As for the color options, if I'm not mistaken, the red are softer than the black but mostly just offered for the people that want to add 5hp....
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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News to me. I have not noticed any difference in stiffness between red and black.
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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Don't quote me but I think I read somewhere that there is a subtle difference in stiffness. On another note I changed the sway bar links and outer tie rod ends on my girlfriends 6th gen. You would have puked at seeing what came off that car. 120,000 miles never been changed. I'll let your imagination take it from there.
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Just to be sure the part# for 22mm is 191165, correct?
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan.Powell
Don't quote me but I think I read somewhere that there is a subtle difference in stiffness. On another note I changed the sway bar links and outer tie rod ends on my girlfriends 6th gen. You would have puked at seeing what came off that car. 120,000 miles never been changed. I'll let your imagination take it from there.
Interesting. Yea, I've seen it all. I've seen bushings fall out of sleeves in rubber crumbles. You could top a salad with them

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Just to be sure the part# for 22mm is 191165, correct?
No. 7.5124.

Amazon.com: Energy Suspension 7.5124G 22mm Front Sway Bar Bushing: Automotive Amazon.com: Energy Suspension 7.5124G 22mm Front Sway Bar Bushing: Automotive

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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:42 PM
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Awesome thanks for the link!
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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Np. Best of luck!
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Wuz up dj, let me run something by you real quick...the install of the struts was going great note that was until(thank GOD i still have my face) it hit me i been riding on two left struts for the last 3months and don't know if the left spring is going to work with the new right "right"strut,i'm not near the garage right now so i can't go look,but it's got me thinking
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:01 PM
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Replacing front struts

Hello Dj. Ok, after reading MANY pages of this thread, I think I have it down. I currently have 225k on my max, all stock suspension. I'm going to tackle the front struts within the next few weeks (gotta replace a rear wheel hub assembly first). Not sure what struts I'm going to get yet, but do I HAVE to replace the springs? Also, by what I read I need to replace the strut mounts as well (going with Moog)? Just trying to get everything together so I don't get stuck needing something when I install. Thanks for your time.

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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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Springs do not go bad, ever.

What year is your car?
Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
springs do not go bad, ever.

What year is your car?
2000. Ok I think I've decided to go with the KYB GR-2's. They seem reasonably priced.

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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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They're perfect for you.

Here's the part #'s of what you need
KYB's - roughly $325 shipped for the set of 4
1x 334265
1x 334266
2x 341341 OR 2x 341341 (whichever is cheaper)

Moog - Roughly $35-40 each
2x K90655

OEM Dustboots. Nissan ONLY. Do NOT get KYB, Monroe, or any other brand. Roughly $80 shipped for all 4.
2x 55240
2x 54050

These are the parts you need to do it right, with quality parts at a fair price.
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 05:59 AM
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Thanks man, I appreciate it. Do you recommend the Moog strut mounts over the KYB's? They have the KYB's on tire rack for $38 each. I don't mind paying a few bucks more if the quality is better.
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Hey, on my rear suspension, everytime I go over a pot hole it sounds like the car is going to come apart, the impact is so hard it is scary, like if there was no spring at all. last year I replaced the shock absorbers with KYB (closer to stock since I am using the stock springs, I think that would be GR-2 right?) thinking that it would help but no luck, what could it be? do I need to get bushings all over the rear susp?

Alson on the front I replaced at the same time shocks, mounts and LBB and that eliminated some cluncking I had but not it is back, everytime I go over speed bumps it clunks, I jacked it up last weekend and the LBB seem to be OK, it's too soon form them to fail though (I got the Moog ones, supposedly good stuff) where is the clunking coming from?

if no bumps on the road the car handles good, like it is supposed to I guess, no leaning, no bouncing around, so what could it be? please help!!!
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 03:01 PM
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i love this car ,i had to remove about 36 ,12mm bolts and two 10mm bolts just to get to the four 14mm holding the rear struts in place

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Old Mar 6, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nestorlugo
i love this car ,i had to remove about 36 ,12mm bolts and two 10mm bolts just to get to the four 14mm holding the rear struts in place
U went nuts with this, i removed 1 plastic clip to get to those nuts and NOTHING ELSE!
Old Mar 6, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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Idk it had two two blk metal brackets on each side and one big one around circumference of the trunk passage, i just wish i had bought the rear window shade from the i30 i saw Tuesday ,it would have been a nice time for the mod...
Edit:i finished the install earlier and test drove it, feels very stiff not even close to how it was,however I'll have to remove one of the front ones since the bottom perch and the spring are making contact creating a small rattle

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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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You just put a 6" extension on the ratchet thats all
Old Mar 7, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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Question for all. For motor mounts, what does everyone prefer aftermarket or OEM? The one I'm particularly talking about is the passenger side.
Old Mar 7, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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^^^^^Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...d=251265861334
This is a suspension thread tho! Should really post that question on the noobie 5Th gen thread....:I

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Hey, on my rear suspension, everytime I go over a pot hole it sounds like the car is going to come apart, the impact is so hard it is scary, like if there was no spring at all. last year I replaced the shock absorbers with KYB (closer to stock since I am using the stock springs, I think that would be GR-2 right?) thinking that it would help but no luck, what could it be? do I need to get bushings all over the rear susp?

Alson on the front I replaced at the same time shocks, mounts and LBB and that eliminated some cluncking I had but not it is back, everytime I go over speed bumps it clunks, I jacked it up last weekend and the LBB seem to be OK, it's too soon form them to fail though (I got the Moog ones, supposedly good stuff) where is the clunking coming from?

if no bumps on the road the car handles good, like it is supposed to I guess, no leaning, no bouncing around, so what could it be? please help!!!

Any ideas?
Old Mar 8, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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Thanks man, I appreciate it. Do you recommend the Moog strut mounts over the KYB's? They have the KYB's on tire rack for $38 each. I don't mind paying a few bucks more if the quality is better.
Yes, worth the few extra dollars to get Moog.
Old Mar 8, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by silver5andahalf
Hey, on my rear suspension, everytime I go over a pot hole it sounds like the car is going to come apart, the impact is so hard it is scary, like if there was no spring at all. last year I replaced the shock absorbers with KYB (closer to stock since I am using the stock springs, I think that would be GR-2 right?) thinking that it would help but no luck, what could it be? do I need to get bushings all over the rear susp?

Alson on the front I replaced at the same time shocks, mounts and LBB and that eliminated some cluncking I had but not it is back, everytime I go over speed bumps it clunks, I jacked it up last weekend and the LBB seem to be OK, it's too soon form them to fail though (I got the Moog ones, supposedly good stuff) where is the clunking coming from?

if no bumps on the road the car handles good, like it is supposed to I guess, no leaning, no bouncing around, so what could it be? please help!!!

If not your struts, then check motor mounts and control arms.

In the rear, there is not much to do except struts.
If struts did not help the rear then rear trailing arms would be your next focus point.
Old Mar 8, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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i love this car ,i had to remove about 36 ,12mm bolts and two 10mm bolts just to get to the four 14mm holding the rear struts in place
Completely unnecessary. You just need the right length socket extension.
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You just put a 6" extension on the ratchet thats all
Yup
Old Mar 8, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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^^^^^Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/motors/link/?n...d=251265861334
This is a suspension thread tho! Should really post that question on the noobie 5Th gen thread....:I
Stay away. Won't last long at all. Get a proper aftermarket brand and you'll be fine. Beck/arnley, ACDelco, etc.
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Any ideas?
Patience.
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Originally Posted by Emaximus
Question for all. For motor mounts, what does everyone prefer aftermarket or OEM? The one I'm particularly talking about is the passenger side.
Per my reply to Nestor, no need to go oem. Any of the known aftermarket brands are fine. Each mount should be in the $30-$45 range.
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Per my reply to Nestor, no need to go oem. Any of the known aftermarket brands are fine. Each mount should be in the $30-$45 range.
Yes i kind of knew but good looking out,but the reason i really got'em was because i plan to do the es insert on the front and back,i didn't want to mess with the oem mounts just disconnected them soon as i read they could damage ecu.
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Yes, worth the few extra dollars to get Moog.
Moog K90299 for the rear, if I'm correct? Just checking.



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