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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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what headers should I get vq30dek

wassup guys I have a 2000 maxima 5 speed the production date was February 2000 , I want to know if this car has the egr on the rear headers because I keep reading on the org that it does and doesn't , I think it does and I'm looking at some headers on ebay but I want to know what u guys think I don't want the obx because it looks like trouble with all those extra O2 sensor holes . reason why I'm changing us because I droped in a dip on the road and cracked my precat in the front. any feedback helps thank you .

these are the ones I'm looking at http://m.ebay.com/itm/181361475426?nav=SEARCH



wish all you guys a thanks giving
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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Cattman but he is done for so OBX?

O2 simulator for the rear o2 sensors
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Cattman but he is done for so OBX?

O2 simulator for the rear o2 sensors
do you have obx george ?

can anyone help me and give me any input on the obx headers on ebay
http://r.ebay.com/YIgnx9

shud I get these ? do I need to extend the O2 sensor which is my biggest fear or does everything fit as ease please help me

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
do you have obx george ?
No I bought some of his last batch stuff last year

- You need OBX V2
- Use a O2 simulator for the rear O2 sensors. Guide

I had to buy a EGR bung for the 02 Maxima, it went into a hole on the header closet to the firewall (back one)

Worst case scenario. see what CEL pop up after the work is done.

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by george__
No I bought some of his last batch stuff last year

- You need OBX V2
- Use a O2 simulator for the rear O2 sensors. Guide

I had to buy a EGR bung for the 02 Maxima, it went into a hole on the header closet to the firewall (back one)

Worst case scenario. see what CEL pop up after the work is done.
v2 ? I have a 2000 maxima not 2002 and what are the O2 simulators George
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
v2 ? I have a 2000 maxima not 2002
OBX headers v2

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what are the O2 simulators George
They prevent the CEL coming on for the rear o2 sensors and you don't need rear o2 sensors for car to be in working order. The front O2 sensors should be plug and play and they are very important.

I used these

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by george__
OBX headers v2



They prevent the CEL coming on for the rear o2 sensors and you don't need rear o2 sensors for car to be in working order. The front O2 sensors should be plug and play and they are very important.

I used these

where can I find the v2 ?
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
where can I find the v2 ?
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...x-headers.html
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:42 PM
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ok thanks George so the v2 are for the the 02-03 and what mods do I need to make for them to fit
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
ok thanks George so the v2 are for the the 02-03 and what mods do I need to make for them to fit
Wrong, they will fit in your gen 5 without issue... And even gen 4 I think?

Main reason for buying the v2 is that it has better fitment and costs the same price as the v1. So no point buying the inferior product

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by george__
Wrong, they will fit in your gen 5 without issue... And even gen 4 I think?

Main reason for buying the v2 is that it has better fitment and costs the same price as the v1. So no point buying the inferior product
and what about egr ?
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
and what about egr ?
Shouldn't that be drilled into the headers already?

My cattman header closet to the firewall had that egr slotted for

Should ask the seller?

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by george__
Shouldn't that be drilled into the headers already?

My cattman header closet to the firewall had that egr slotted for

Should ask the seller?
ok thanks btw I searched on ebay and I don't see any available
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
ok thanks btw I searched on ebay and I don't see any available
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 06:38 AM
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^^

1. First rule of Maxima.org = DON'T listen to_george.
2. OBX V2 are NOT better! Yes they will work on the vq30dek but those are inferior design due to the 02-03 layout and both pre-cats seperated from Ypipe. Case in point:


OBX V2 for 02-03 Maxima here

vs


OBX SS 95-01 Maxima

See how the 95-01 Headers don't have that loop on the rear? Much better and stronger flow. Fitment wise, wont be much difference because ALL OBX headers will require a bit of work to fit properly, they all have a design flaw.

Finding these is not really a problem, I've seen em out there. Only thing is many places have them for high $$$ (like 300 bucks) these days.

Besides that, February 2000 production date is very likely not to have EGR. My 2k doesn't have EGR, but mine is October 2000 production, it's basically an 01.

You can check for EGR, just look under throttle body for it's presence.
Old Nov 28, 2014 | 07:01 AM
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^^


Originally Posted by carsnwomen91
i heard the fitment on the v1 really sucks... i only heard though. the v2 is a superior setup anyway, its got an equal y pipe
Originally Posted by infinimax96
V1 has worse fitment and a non equal length ypipe. V2 has better fitment, larger diameter and equal length ypipe.
https://maxima.org/forums/4th-genera...s-02-03-a.html

Originally Posted by Slamrod
Ive been doing a bit of reading on OBX because the mod bug just doesnt go away. It seems the 3.0 headers (V1) have major issues and are not worth the hassle, while the 3.5 headers (V2) are basically spot on, aside from having to grind down the crossmember below the engine bay. They are interchangable between 3.0 and 3.5 engines, although the V2 headers lack an EGR bung. I think the V2 headers also have "extra" O2 bungs that are for 3.5s - correct me if im wrong but arnt these extra bungs used on a cali specc 3.0?
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...t-headers.html

Originally Posted by schmellyfart
OBX v1 are older 3 piece headers that OBX doesn't even produce anymore, to my knowledge. Their fitment was even worse than these.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...all-today.html

Originally Posted by e-subliminal-2
Yeahhh, obx v1, Don't ask I got them for a steal. un-equal length y. Fitment around front motor mount was about all the problems I ran into.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...sp-rasspp.html

Originally Posted by e-subliminal-2
Always works, Worst case scenario you MIGHT have to grind down a bit of your motor mount depending one what brand you buy. I got the obx v1 and had to do that
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...ipe-3-5-a.html

Originally Posted by Ninety9gle
^technically he should be alright with either one since he has a 5g right?
Originally Posted by J2FRESH
yea but V2's FTW
Originally Posted by Relic
Does that means the V2 can fit 00-01 models?
Originally Posted by 2000_MAXIMA_KING
Yes.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...x-headers.html

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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 07:45 AM
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Just get some altima v6 headers and get an equal length y-pipe made.
Old Nov 28, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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^ Damn u actually did some research george.

Well then you should know...

- V1 vs V2 make same power
- Unequal vs Equal Ypipe sound is subjective, IMO the unequal pipe sounds more violent and mean and I like it better than equal ypipe.
- V1 has egr bung, V2 doesnt. In case OP needs it.
- V1 fitment issues are mostly in front whereas V2 will be front and especially back near firewall and the flex section.
- many people with V2 seemed to need new rear o2 bung because the one it came with was in bad spot.

And finally, make sure to get new oem gaskets regardless of which header u go with. Obx gaskets that come with all the headers will be garbage.
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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell
- V1 has egr bung, V2 doesnt. In case OP needs it.
It's a bung, shop can do it..

Originally Posted by D.Stillwell
- many people with V2 seemed to need new rear o2 bung because the one it came with was in bad spot.
Use a O2 simulator

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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell
^ Damn u actually did some research george.

Well then you should know...

- V1 vs V2 make same power
- Unequal vs Equal Ypipe sound is subjective, IMO the unequal pipe sounds more violent and mean and I like it better than equal ypipe.
- V1 has egr bung, V2 doesnt. In case OP needs it.
- V1 fitment issues are mostly in front whereas V2 will be front and especially back near firewall and the flex section.
- many people with V2 seemed to need new rear o2 bung because the one it came with was in bad spot.

And finally, make sure to get new oem gaskets regardless of which header u go with. Obx gaskets that come with all the headers will be garbage.

D.stillwell what should i do v1 ? i need your opnion cause we both have 3.0 sadly im at work cant get to the car to see if i have egr because its at home
Old Nov 28, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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Since Cattman no longer makes headers, what's the alternative? Is obx the next best thing? I plan on getting headers soon also.
Old Nov 28, 2014 | 05:24 PM
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I still don't know if I shud do this or stay stock lol either way I still have to do do exhaust work if I didn't mention I broke my pre cat while I hit a dip in the road
Old Nov 28, 2014 | 05:30 PM
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Couldn't a shot just make a EGR bung for you if it's not there?
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Good luck i had issues with both. I have a 3.5 and the front o2 rad side bung wrong location,rear wrong location rear hit the motor mount,Y pipe wouldnt line up.v2 same issues as above with additional notching of rear mount,notching of the cross member,cheap flex sections, Y pipe flange alignment off by 1/2" after 8 hours trying to install they were violently smashed on the ground.
Old Nov 28, 2014 | 09:11 PM
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Good luck i had issues with both. I have a 3.5 and the front o2 rad side bung wrong location,rear wrong location rear hit the motor mount,Y pipe wouldnt line up.v2 same issues as above with additional notching of rear mount,notching of the cross member,cheap flex sections, Y pipe flange alignment off by 1/2" after 8 hours trying to install they were violently smashed on the ground.
^^ This is partly why I never did headers. Other part was just wanting to keep the sound levels more moderate, I'm already loud enough with the mods I have.

OP the choice is yours, both V1 and V2 will have issues. V1 may be easier for you in case you do have egr. (Of course shop can make bung george, but all that adds up to extra labor $$)..

I can suggest another option, which is the route I took. Get a Ypipe which will eliminate the rear cat altogether and the front cat is not a known issue on 3.0's but you can always gut it. This will make slightly less power than headers but also be way less loud and without hassle or fitment issues.

Only issue is finding a Ypipe these days. But keep looking in classifieds and one will pop up for a good price. Maybe you can even get a used Cattman if one comes around.
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Originally Posted by shawniiebwoiiee
I still don't know if I shud do this or stay stock lol either way I still have to do do exhaust work if I didn't mention I broke my pre cat while I hit a dip in the road
I'd just get a y-pipe and pass on the headers. Unless you're going for ***** to the wall performance, I'd let the extra horsepower go. Installation of a y-pipe is a breeze too.
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I'd just get a y-pipe and pass on the headers. Unless you're going for ***** to the wall performance, I'd let the extra horsepower go. Installation of a y-pipe is a breeze too.
What was the id on the first cattman y pipes?the same as stock?
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Warpspeed is a good inexpensive option that works.....The 95 thru 01 OBX is again the next best thing... "New" Headers!!!! So far No One can replace Cattman's piece of functional art...
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